Does anyone have any knowledge of the name Saul being used for Solomon? I am looking for Saul Shockley b.abt 1730 with no success. I am able to find Solomon's born at the right time. I was told by a couple of people that the names Saul and Solomon were sometimes interchanged. Thanks for any info/help anyone might be able to give. Thank you in advance. Cathy Hudson

Thanks, George. I had, in fact, followed up to find John Read, Jr.'s untimely demise, but it looks as if his dad had used the same privy out there by the Nanticoke on HOG QUARTER. I see also that my n-great aunt Mary Brown (b. 2 Jul 1730 to William and Susanna Brown of Barren Creek) seems to have married James Read of this clan and lived right around there, too. A dangerous place to be. And my own ancestor William Farrington lived next door to Robert Givans on Rewastico Creek, too. You and I seem to be lucky that our lines weren't snuffed out in Nov 1748, by whatever this was. One thing I actually have learned here is that my guess of cholera isn't likely right, in that cholera seems only to have erupted out of India in the late 18th century and didn't arrive here to thin the herds until later. As an aside, while looking at the Givans on another errand, I just learned, via So Deeds L1:625, that Robert Givans was named in 1700 by Mary Gordon (wife of Thomas) as her "well-beloved brother" in a power of attorney to him for the sale of GORDONS LOT the next year (which tract adjoined a couple of the early James and Robert Givans surveys up along Deep Creek). Of course, there can hardly be any doubt that Robert and James were siblings, too, though I doubt there's anything to find which says so. John -----Original Message----- From: George F. Riggin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Jun 12, 2010 8:49 am Subject: Re: [LDR] Evident Epidemic John- Not to upset you further, but unfortunately the Read family did not escape the consequences of this illness.  John Read Jr., host of 'the party' at which Robert Givans was taken sick, died between 29Nov1748, when he wrote his will, and 9Dec when it was proved.  The will of his father, John Sr., was proved 16Nov1748.  John Sn. was married to Martha, daughter of James Givans (d. 1724), who I believe but have been unable to document was a brother to Robert. As to the cause, I am unable to contribute.  Being a descendant of the Givans and Reads, curiosity has prompted me to look into this event, but with success.  I have seen (but don't remember where) a list of major epidemics in the mid-Atlantic states and the years in which they occurred, but nothing matched.  Another case of the well being to close to the privy, perhaps. George Riggin --- On Sat, 6/12/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:58:02 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [LDR] Evident Epidemic > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > >  From Somerset and Worcester records is the following > gruesome picture.  >   Does anyone on list happen to have any special > knowledge about this > situation? > > On 12 Oct 1748, Robert Givans of Rewastico (who was son of > Robert (I), > d. 1735), died ?at 4 o?clock in the morning?, expressing a > nuncupative > will in which he granted his lands to his only son, William > (probably > about age 2 at the time), among other bequests.  He > was about 40.  > Filed with the will, proved on 9 Dec, less than two months > later, was > the interesting notation: > > "The within writing was Exhibited by Jean Givans, Widow and > relict of > Robert Givans and also personally appeared Day Givans and > Mary Acworth > the two only surviving evidences of four that were called > by the > Testator in his last sickness about a day before his Death > to bear > Witness of the same will . . . . And also that Adam Bell > and George > Givans both now deceased were likewise called and was > present in the > time of his last sickness at the House of John Read, Jr., > where he was > accidentally taken sick the Day after he left his own House > ". > > Witnesses Day Givans and Mary Acworth were the testator?s > siblings; > witnesses George Givans (also his brother) and Adam Bell > (his > brother-in-law, husband of Robert Givans? sister Marian) > were both also > deceased by December, less than two months after Robert > Givans had > fallen suddenly ill.   What is particularly > intriguing about this is a > documented chain of sudden deaths, and not restricted to > just these > three, compellingly pointing to some unusual circumstances, > such as > smallpox, cholera or something of the sort that would take > a fast bite > out of a community. > > Adam Bell?s LW&T was also nuncupative.  Such wills > are pretty uncommon, > and to find two so intimately linked is startling.  > Bell?s will was > proved on 9 Jan 1749, but the date of making and his death > had > obviously preceded 9 Dec, per the above.  He was a > chirurgeon > (surgeon/doctor) of Snow Hill, will made in > Worcester.  One of the > witnesses to his dying declaration, William Bratten, was > also deceased > by the 9 Jan probate entry. > > Back in Somerset, George Givans made his will (not > nuncupative) on 15 > Oct 1748, and it was proved on 29 Nov.  One of the > three witnesses to > its making was neighbor William Alexander, who was also > dead by the > time of probate. > > I?m almost afraid to look further. > > Fascinating.  I think cholera ? fast-acting and > reliable ? fits the > bill. > > John > > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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Also possibly diptheria or any of a multitude of other infectious diseases, against which there were few defenses. Elizabeth In a message dated 6/12/2010 9:08:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Possibly Smallpox. Not a definitive answer .... but certainly something that was being fought in the area during that time period... http://www.jstor.org/pss/4246131 Sharon On Jun 12, 2010, at 8:49 AM, George F. Riggin wrote: > John- > > Not to upset you further, but unfortunately the Read family did not escape the consequences of this illness. John Read Jr., host of 'the party' at which Robert Givans was taken sick, died between 29Nov1748, when he wrote his will, and 9Dec when it was proved. The will of his father, John Sr., was proved 16Nov1748. John Sn. was married to Martha, daughter of James Givans (d. 1724), who I believe but have been unable to document was a brother to Robert. > > As to the cause, I am unable to contribute. Being a descendant of the Givans and Reads, curiosity has prompted me to look into this event, but with success. I have seen (but don't remember where) a list of major epidemics in the mid-Atlantic states and the years in which they occurred, but nothing matched. Another case of the well being to close to the privy, perhaps. > > George Riggin > > > --- On Sat, 6/12/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:58:02 -0400 >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: [LDR] Evident Epidemic >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed >> >> From Somerset and Worcester records is the following >> gruesome picture. >> Does anyone on list happen to have any special >> knowledge about this >> situation? >> >> On 12 Oct 1748, Robert Givans of Rewastico (who was son of >> Robert (I), >> d. 1735), died ?at 4 o?clock in the morning?, expressing a >> nuncupative >> will in which he granted his lands to his only son, William >> (probably >> about age 2 at the time), among other bequests. He >> was about 40. >> Filed with the will, proved on 9 Dec, less than two months >> later, was >> the interesting notation: >> >> "The within writing was Exhibited by Jean Givans, Widow and >> relict of >> Robert Givans and also personally appeared Day Givans and >> Mary Acworth >> the two only surviving evidences of four that were called >> by the >> Testator in his last sickness about a day before his Death >> to bear >> Witness of the same will . . . . And also that Adam Bell >> and George >> Givans both now deceased were likewise called and was >> present in the >> time of his last sickness at the House of John Read, Jr., >> where he was >> accidentally taken sick the Day after he left his own House >> ". >> >> Witnesses Day Givans and Mary Acworth were the testator?s >> siblings; >> witnesses George Givans (also his brother) and Adam Bell >> (his >> brother-in-law, husband of Robert Givans? sister Marian) >> were both also >> deceased by December, less than two months after Robert >> Givans had >> fallen suddenly ill. What is particularly >> intriguing about this is a >> documented chain of sudden deaths, and not restricted to >> just these >> three, compellingly pointing to some unusual circumstances, >> such as >> smallpox, cholera or something of the sort that would take >> a fast bite >> out of a community. >> >> Adam Bell?s LW&T was also nuncupative. Such wills >> are pretty uncommon, >> and to find two so intimately linked is startling. >> Bell?s will was >> proved on 9 Jan 1749, but the date of making and his death >> had >> obviously preceded 9 Dec, per the above. He was a >> chirurgeon >> (surgeon/doctor) of Snow Hill, will made in >> Worcester. One of the >> witnesses to his dying declaration, William Bratten, was >> also deceased >> by the 9 Jan probate entry. >> >> Back in Somerset, George Givans made his will (not >> nuncupative) on 15 >> Oct 1748, and it was proved on 29 Nov. One of the >> three witnesses to >> its making was neighbor William Alexander, who was also >> dead by the >> time of probate. >> >> I?m almost afraid to look further. >> >> Fascinating. 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Possibly Smallpox. Not a definitive answer .... but certainly something that was being fought in the area during that time period... http://www.jstor.org/pss/4246131 Sharon On Jun 12, 2010, at 8:49 AM, George F. Riggin wrote: > John- > > Not to upset you further, but unfortunately the Read family did not escape the consequences of this illness. John Read Jr., host of 'the party' at which Robert Givans was taken sick, died between 29Nov1748, when he wrote his will, and 9Dec when it was proved. The will of his father, John Sr., was proved 16Nov1748. John Sn. was married to Martha, daughter of James Givans (d. 1724), who I believe but have been unable to document was a brother to Robert. > > As to the cause, I am unable to contribute. Being a descendant of the Givans and Reads, curiosity has prompted me to look into this event, but with success. I have seen (but don't remember where) a list of major epidemics in the mid-Atlantic states and the years in which they occurred, but nothing matched. Another case of the well being to close to the privy, perhaps. > > George Riggin > > > --- On Sat, 6/12/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:58:02 -0400 >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: [LDR] Evident Epidemic >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed >> >> From Somerset and Worcester records is the following >> gruesome picture. >> Does anyone on list happen to have any special >> knowledge about this >> situation? >> >> On 12 Oct 1748, Robert Givans of Rewastico (who was son of >> Robert (I), >> d. 1735), died ?at 4 o?clock in the morning?, expressing a >> nuncupative >> will in which he granted his lands to his only son, William >> (probably >> about age 2 at the time), among other bequests. He >> was about 40. >> Filed with the will, proved on 9 Dec, less than two months >> later, was >> the interesting notation: >> >> "The within writing was Exhibited by Jean Givans, Widow and >> relict of >> Robert Givans and also personally appeared Day Givans and >> Mary Acworth >> the two only surviving evidences of four that were called >> by the >> Testator in his last sickness about a day before his Death >> to bear >> Witness of the same will . . . . And also that Adam Bell >> and George >> Givans both now deceased were likewise called and was >> present in the >> time of his last sickness at the House of John Read, Jr., >> where he was >> accidentally taken sick the Day after he left his own House >> ". >> >> Witnesses Day Givans and Mary Acworth were the testator?s >> siblings; >> witnesses George Givans (also his brother) and Adam Bell >> (his >> brother-in-law, husband of Robert Givans? sister Marian) >> were both also >> deceased by December, less than two months after Robert >> Givans had >> fallen suddenly ill. What is particularly >> intriguing about this is a >> documented chain of sudden deaths, and not restricted to >> just these >> three, compellingly pointing to some unusual circumstances, >> such as >> smallpox, cholera or something of the sort that would take >> a fast bite >> out of a community. >> >> Adam Bell?s LW&T was also nuncupative. Such wills >> are pretty uncommon, >> and to find two so intimately linked is startling. >> Bell?s will was >> proved on 9 Jan 1749, but the date of making and his death >> had >> obviously preceded 9 Dec, per the above. He was a >> chirurgeon >> (surgeon/doctor) of Snow Hill, will made in >> Worcester. One of the >> witnesses to his dying declaration, William Bratten, was >> also deceased >> by the 9 Jan probate entry. >> >> Back in Somerset, George Givans made his will (not >> nuncupative) on 15 >> Oct 1748, and it was proved on 29 Nov. One of the >> three witnesses to >> its making was neighbor William Alexander, who was also >> dead by the >> time of probate. >> >> I?m almost afraid to look further. >> >> Fascinating. I think cholera ? fast-acting and >> reliable ? fits the >> bill. >> >> John >> >> > > > > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't forget time of year, these all seem to be between mid-October and January of the following year. This could be rampant influenza with subsequent pneumonias. There used to be a lot of summer associated Malarial/Yellow Fever type disease in the DelMarVA as well. Glenda S Strayer On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 3:00 AM, <[email protected]>wrote: > > > LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Administrivia > > For information about the Lower Delmarva Roots Mailing List, including list > guidelines and instructions for unsubscribing and subscribing, see the > LDRoots FAQ: > > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Eliza Allen 1798 ([email protected]) > 2. Evident Epidemic ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:04:36 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LDR] Eliza Allen 1798 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > >From the Allen side of the family: > I have John Allen (b. 1-1-1754, d. 3-10-1847) married Rebecca Coulbourn > (b.???? d. 3-12-1839). > > One of their sons, Joseph Coulbourn Allen (b.12-22-1801, d. 7-1-1889) > married on 8-16-1825 to Elizabeth Newton Wilson (b. 3-13-1805, d. > 1-16-1887). > These are my great-great grandparents. > > > >From the Williams side of the family: > I have Isaac Cannon (b. ???, d. 1-22-1876 "aged 70 yrs. 6 months" per his > tombstone) married on 3/12/1838 to Eliza Jane Brown (b. 6-6-1798 d. > 4-17-1887). > > One of their daughters, Mary Ann Cannon (b. 9-06-1838, d. 3-13-1923) > married 1-10-1855 to Levin W. Williams (b. 7-22-1831, d. 8-29-1895) These > are > my great-grandparents. > > I know we have Isaac Cannon marrying different women! And I have Rebecca > Coulbourn on the opposite side of my family line than what you have!! > Anyone on the LDR list who can help?? > > Thanks in advance for any help, > R. Lee Mills > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:58:02 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [LDR] Evident Epidemic > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > From Somerset and Worcester records is the following gruesome picture. > Does anyone on list happen to have any special knowledge about this > situation? > > On 12 Oct 1748, Robert Givans of Rewastico (who was son of Robert (I), > d. 1735), died ?at 4 o?clock in the morning?, expressing a nuncupative > will in which he granted his lands to his only son, William (probably > about age 2 at the time), among other bequests. He was about 40. > Filed with the will, proved on 9 Dec, less than two months later, was > the interesting notation: > > "The within writing was Exhibited by Jean Givans, Widow and relict of > Robert Givans and also personally appeared Day Givans and Mary Acworth > the two only surviving evidences of four that were called by the > Testator in his last sickness about a day before his Death to bear > Witness of the same will . . . . And also that Adam Bell and George > Givans both now deceased were likewise called and was present in the > time of his last sickness at the House of John Read, Jr., where he was > accidentally taken sick the Day after he left his own House ". > > Witnesses Day Givans and Mary Acworth were the testator?s siblings; > witnesses George Givans (also his brother) and Adam Bell (his > brother-in-law, husband of Robert Givans? sister Marian) were both also > deceased by December, less than two months after Robert Givans had > fallen suddenly ill. What is particularly intriguing about this is a > documented chain of sudden deaths, and not restricted to just these > three, compellingly pointing to some unusual circumstances, such as > smallpox, cholera or something of the sort that would take a fast bite > out of a community. > > Adam Bell?s LW&T was also nuncupative. Such wills are pretty uncommon, > and to find two so intimately linked is startling. Bell?s will was > proved on 9 Jan 1749, but the date of making and his death had > obviously preceded 9 Dec, per the above. He was a chirurgeon > (surgeon/doctor) of Snow Hill, will made in Worcester. One of the > witnesses to his dying declaration, William Bratten, was also deceased > by the 9 Jan probate entry. > > Back in Somerset, George Givans made his will (not nuncupative) on 15 > Oct 1748, and it was proved on 29 Nov. One of the three witnesses to > its making was neighbor William Alexander, who was also dead by the > time of probate. > > I?m almost afraid to look further. > > Fascinating. I think cholera ? fast-acting and reliable ? fits the > bill. > > John > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS mailing list, send an email > to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 155 > **************************************************** >

John- Not to upset you further, but unfortunately the Read family did not escape the consequences of this illness.  John Read Jr., host of 'the party' at which Robert Givans was taken sick, died between 29Nov1748, when he wrote his will, and 9Dec when it was proved.  The will of his father, John Sr., was proved 16Nov1748.  John Sn. was married to Martha, daughter of James Givans (d. 1724), who I believe but have been unable to document was a brother to Robert. As to the cause, I am unable to contribute.  Being a descendant of the Givans and Reads, curiosity has prompted me to look into this event, but with success.  I have seen (but don't remember where) a list of major epidemics in the mid-Atlantic states and the years in which they occurred, but nothing matched.  Another case of the well being to close to the privy, perhaps. George Riggin --- On Sat, 6/12/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:58:02 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [LDR] Evident Epidemic > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > >  From Somerset and Worcester records is the following > gruesome picture.  >   Does anyone on list happen to have any special > knowledge about this > situation? > > On 12 Oct 1748, Robert Givans of Rewastico (who was son of > Robert (I), > d. 1735), died ?at 4 o?clock in the morning?, expressing a > nuncupative > will in which he granted his lands to his only son, William > (probably > about age 2 at the time), among other bequests.  He > was about 40.  > Filed with the will, proved on 9 Dec, less than two months > later, was > the interesting notation: > > "The within writing was Exhibited by Jean Givans, Widow and > relict of > Robert Givans and also personally appeared Day Givans and > Mary Acworth > the two only surviving evidences of four that were called > by the > Testator in his last sickness about a day before his Death > to bear > Witness of the same will . . . . And also that Adam Bell > and George > Givans both now deceased were likewise called and was > present in the > time of his last sickness at the House of John Read, Jr., > where he was > accidentally taken sick the Day after he left his own House > ". > > Witnesses Day Givans and Mary Acworth were the testator?s > siblings; > witnesses George Givans (also his brother) and Adam Bell > (his > brother-in-law, husband of Robert Givans? sister Marian) > were both also > deceased by December, less than two months after Robert > Givans had > fallen suddenly ill.   What is particularly > intriguing about this is a > documented chain of sudden deaths, and not restricted to > just these > three, compellingly pointing to some unusual circumstances, > such as > smallpox, cholera or something of the sort that would take > a fast bite > out of a community. > > Adam Bell?s LW&T was also nuncupative.  Such wills > are pretty uncommon, > and to find two so intimately linked is startling.  > Bell?s will was > proved on 9 Jan 1749, but the date of making and his death > had > obviously preceded 9 Dec, per the above.  He was a > chirurgeon > (surgeon/doctor) of Snow Hill, will made in > Worcester.  One of the > witnesses to his dying declaration, William Bratten, was > also deceased > by the 9 Jan probate entry. > > Back in Somerset, George Givans made his will (not > nuncupative) on 15 > Oct 1748, and it was proved on 29 Nov.  One of the > three witnesses to > its making was neighbor William Alexander, who was also > dead by the > time of probate. > > I?m almost afraid to look further. > > Fascinating.  I think cholera ? fast-acting and > reliable ? fits the > bill. > > John > >

From Somerset and Worcester records is the following gruesome picture. Does anyone on list happen to have any special knowledge about this situation? On 12 Oct 1748, Robert Givans of Rewastico (who was son of Robert (I), d. 1735), died “at 4 o’clock in the morning”, expressing a nuncupative will in which he granted his lands to his only son, William (probably about age 2 at the time), among other bequests. He was about 40. Filed with the will, proved on 9 Dec, less than two months later, was the interesting notation: "The within writing was Exhibited by Jean Givans, Widow and relict of Robert Givans and also personally appeared Day Givans and Mary Acworth the two only surviving evidences of four that were called by the Testator in his last sickness about a day before his Death to bear Witness of the same will . . . . And also that Adam Bell and George Givans both now deceased were likewise called and was present in the time of his last sickness at the House of John Read, Jr., where he was accidentally taken sick the Day after he left his own House ". Witnesses Day Givans and Mary Acworth were the testator’s siblings; witnesses George Givans (also his brother) and Adam Bell (his brother-in-law, husband of Robert Givans’ sister Marian) were both also deceased by December, less than two months after Robert Givans had fallen suddenly ill. What is particularly intriguing about this is a documented chain of sudden deaths, and not restricted to just these three, compellingly pointing to some unusual circumstances, such as smallpox, cholera or something of the sort that would take a fast bite out of a community. Adam Bell’s LW&T was also nuncupative. Such wills are pretty uncommon, and to find two so intimately linked is startling. Bell’s will was proved on 9 Jan 1749, but the date of making and his death had obviously preceded 9 Dec, per the above. He was a chirurgeon (surgeon/doctor) of Snow Hill, will made in Worcester. One of the witnesses to his dying declaration, William Bratten, was also deceased by the 9 Jan probate entry. Back in Somerset, George Givans made his will (not nuncupative) on 15 Oct 1748, and it was proved on 29 Nov. One of the three witnesses to its making was neighbor William Alexander, who was also dead by the time of probate. I’m almost afraid to look further. Fascinating. I think cholera – fast-acting and reliable – fits the bill. John

>From the Allen side of the family: I have John Allen (b. 1-1-1754, d. 3-10-1847) married Rebecca Coulbourn (b.???? d. 3-12-1839). One of their sons, Joseph Coulbourn Allen (b.12-22-1801, d. 7-1-1889) married on 8-16-1825 to Elizabeth Newton Wilson (b. 3-13-1805, d. 1-16-1887). These are my great-great grandparents. >From the Williams side of the family: I have Isaac Cannon (b. ???, d. 1-22-1876 "aged 70 yrs. 6 months" per his tombstone) married on 3/12/1838 to Eliza Jane Brown (b. 6-6-1798 d. 4-17-1887). One of their daughters, Mary Ann Cannon (b. 9-06-1838, d. 3-13-1923) married 1-10-1855 to Levin W. Williams (b. 7-22-1831, d. 8-29-1895) These are my great-grandparents. I know we have Isaac Cannon marrying different women! And I have Rebecca Coulbourn on the opposite side of my family line than what you have!! Anyone on the LDR list who can help?? Thanks in advance for any help, R. Lee Mills

A little on the north side for this list, but thought I'd ask for the collective wisdom of this group anyway. Have recently found copies of original death certificates of my 3GrGM, Mary Rebecca GRACE JONES and her sister Maria E. GRACE DARBY. Both have their mother's maiden name listed as Mary BESWICK (b. @ 1807). She obviously married once before marrying my 3GrGF because she was Mary CARTY on marriage bond. Known to have lived in Frederica at least most of her life and buried there. I have found a few BESWICK families, but none seem to have my Mary....... JoAnn JoAnn Glenn-Lewin Researching: Glenn, Grace, Jones, West, Grimstone, Burgien, Harry, Baldwin, Milhous, Nearey, McLaughlin, Douge "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson "What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others." -Pericles

Eleanor wrote >My ancestor Burrell Drummond (transcribed as "Bur*ll Drumman") enlisted as a private in 1780 under Capt. Charles Bennett.< The dates on militia muster rolls usually reflect a moment in time when a list was made of those reporting for regular drill and nose-counting, which was not active-duty service. All free white able-bodied males aged roughly 16 to 60 (varies by time and place) were considered obligated by law to be available for militia duty for defense within the organizing County. Some militiamen might have considered the first drill they reported to as an 'enlistment' date, but the obligation began when they became resident of a given County. Few militiamen saw active-duty service, which could include patrolling, guarding prisoners, or assisting with escorting supplies bound elsewhere. There were rare exceptions where militiamen were drafted for campaigns outside the County, especially among the VA, NC and GA militia. Since such active duty might be for a day or two here and there, few militiamen accumulated provable service of 30 days or more, which was the least minimum active-duty service entitling them to Congressional pensions under legislation in the 1830s. Less service was required for entitlements of certain widows and dependent children enacted in the 1840s and 1850s, by which time very few such persons were still living. Good hunting, Judy </HTML>

John, Thanks so very much for your information. I will continue my search of William and John of Accomack Co. I didn't consider that Christopher could be a member of the Jones family just because he was test. for John Jones's will. Thanks to your suggestion, I will now start researching the Jones family. Clare ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] Christopher Paradise - Parradice - Pardice - Paredise > By "MD Early Census" someone must have meant the 1723 Somerset > household taxation list, the earliest surviving list for the county. > Christopher also appeared in these annual lists in Mattapony in 1724 > and 1725, and seems thereafter missing, though I didn't look past 1730. > After 1740, no such lists exist for Mattapony, which in 1742 became > part of Worcester (for which no lists survive at all before the > Revolution). > > The Jones connections in the 1718 and the 1761 will relate Christopher > - one would surmise, the same one - to the Jones family of Mattapony, > which held various land across that part of the county bordering > Accomack. > > The only other interesting mention I see in land records is the > annotation in the Somerset Rent Rolls for the tract FOOKS CHOICE [Rent > Rolls Volume 9, folio 71, item 6) which mentions in its legend that > this 500 acre tract was held: "250 acres in the possession of Isaac > Piper, and 250 by John Paradice 'in the right of Philip Parker of > Anomokin, Virginia'". This note would have been inserted sometime > roughly between 1710 and 1720 when these Rent Rolls were actually > assembled. This tract was in Mattapony and very near, and north of, > one of the Jones properties (TRUMP CAPE FIELD) right on the Accomack > border. There is, however, no mention in the title history of either > Paradice/Paradise or Philip - or any other - Parker as having ownership > of FOOKS CHOICE at any time. > > Whatever, John Paradice may be a candidate to be father of Christopher, > but I'd look south of the border in Accomack to see if that's where he > shows up more regularly. Many families holding land in Mattapony were > seated on the Virginia side. > > John Lyon > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clare Pebworth <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:29 pm > Subject: [LDR] Christopher Paradise - Parradice - Pardice - Paredise > > > The MD Early Census states that in 1723 a Christopher PARRADICE lived > in > Mattaponie Hundred, Somerset Co., MD. > > Christopher PARDICE was Test for the 1718 Will of John Jones of > Mattapany, > Somerset Co., MD. > > 18 Sept 1761 in Worcester Co., MD a Christopher PARADISE/PAREDISE wrote > a will > listing his wife as Hannah. > > Does anyone know the names of any of his children or his parents? > Clare > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have an Eliza Allen born 6/6/1798 who married Burton Hurley about 1818. He died and she married Isaac Cannon 2/14/1833. She died 4/191887 and is buried in the Cannon family cemetery on the Cannon farm in Seaford. According to a family Bible in possession of Harlan Messick her parents were listed as John Allen and Margaret Coulbourn. However, an obituary notice listed her mother as Rebecca Coulbourn. I have not personally seen either of these entries...the information was found in my dad's notes now long deceased. Does anyone know where I could obtain a copy of the obituary notice (no idea of the newspaper) of Eliza Allen Hurley Cannon who died April 1887? Or does anyone have any information on this Allen/Coulbourne family? We will be in Seaford June 20 for a few days and would love to resolve this mystery! Betty

I have a John Tindal that served in the Worcester Co., Militia. I found the list in THE MARYLAND GENEALOGICAL BULLETIN. I wrote the National Archives and they did not have the info. Next I wrote the Maryland Archives and received a photo copy of one page of the list. It is very hard to read but your ancestor is not on this page. It is from Revolutionary War Militia list in Maryland Historical Society. DAR approved the supplement. Good luck. Freda Kilgo Daniel --- On Sun, 6/6/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [LDR] Worcester Co MD ancestors in the Revolutionary War? To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 2:12 PM Does anyone have ancestors from Worcester County who served during the Revolutionary War? I"m looking for photocopies of muster lists, correspondence, pension records, etc. of the Worcester Militia as I attempt to prove at least one of my Eastern Shores ancestors was a patriot. I have found references in libraries to original documents of some of the Companies' lists. My ancestor Burrell Drummond (transcribed as "Bur*ll Drumman") enlisted as a private in 1780 under Capt. Charles Bennett. Other family names in this company include: Selby, Townsend; Owens; Pusey; Anderson; Riggen; Atkinson; Merrell (Merrill); Ruark. This is from Henry C. Peden, Jr.'s "Revolutionary Patriots of Worcester & Somerset Counties, Maryland, 1775-1783." I have someone at the Maryland Historical Society looking through some boxes of original documents of the time but hoped that maybe someone on the list might know of other original sources. Burrell Drummond, son of Stephen and Elizabeth (UNK) Drummond, died in 1791 and probably never received any pension payments. His widow, Naomi Selby Drummond, married and was widowed a second time by 1796; Burrell and Naomi's three children moved to Kentucky before 1807, and then to Illinois and Indiana. Not sure what happened to Naomi or if she moved with them. Eleanor   *   Rayl *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wersdfzxc0tyuiopghjklvbnmaqqaty Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:12:14 To: <[email protected]> Subject: [LDR] Worcester Co MD ancestors in the Revolutionary War? Does anyone have ancestors from Worcester County who served during the Revolutionary War? I"m looking for photocopies of muster lists, correspondence, pension records, etc. of the Worcester Militia as I attempt to prove at least one of my Eastern Shores ancestors was a patriot. I have found references in libraries to original documents of some of the Companies' lists. My ancestor Burrell Drummond (transcribed as "Bur*ll Drumman") enlisted as a private in 1780 under Capt. Charles Bennett. Other family names in this company include: Selby, Townsend; Owens; Pusey; Anderson; Riggen; Atkinson; Merrell (Merrill); Ruark. This is from Henry C. Peden, Jr.'s "Revolutionary Patriots of Worcester & Somerset Counties, Maryland, 1775-1783." I have someone at the Maryland Historical Society looking through some boxes of original documents of the time but hoped that maybe someone on the list might know of other original sources. Burrell Drummond, son of Stephen and Elizabeth (UNK) Drummond, died in 1791 and probably never received any pension payments. His widow, Naomi Selby Drummond, married and was widowed a second time by 1796; Burrell and Naomi's three children moved to Kentucky before 1807, and then to Illinois and Indiana. Not sure what happened to Naomi or if she moved with them. Eleanor * Rayl *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

By "MD Early Census" someone must have meant the 1723 Somerset household taxation list, the earliest surviving list for the county. Christopher also appeared in these annual lists in Mattapony in 1724 and 1725, and seems thereafter missing, though I didn't look past 1730. After 1740, no such lists exist for Mattapony, which in 1742 became part of Worcester (for which no lists survive at all before the Revolution). The Jones connections in the 1718 and the 1761 will relate Christopher - one would surmise, the same one - to the Jones family of Mattapony, which held various land across that part of the county bordering Accomack. The only other interesting mention I see in land records is the annotation in the Somerset Rent Rolls for the tract FOOKS CHOICE [Rent Rolls Volume 9, folio 71, item 6) which mentions in its legend that this 500 acre tract was held: "250 acres in the possession of Isaac Piper, and 250 by John Paradice 'in the right of Philip Parker of Anomokin, Virginia'". This note would have been inserted sometime roughly between 1710 and 1720 when these Rent Rolls were actually assembled. This tract was in Mattapony and very near, and north of, one of the Jones properties (TRUMP CAPE FIELD) right on the Accomack border. There is, however, no mention in the title history of either Paradice/Paradise or Philip - or any other - Parker as having ownership of FOOKS CHOICE at any time. Whatever, John Paradice may be a candidate to be father of Christopher, but I'd look south of the border in Accomack to see if that's where he shows up more regularly. Many families holding land in Mattapony were seated on the Virginia side. John Lyon -----Original Message----- From: Clare Pebworth <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, Jun 6, 2010 4:29 pm Subject: [LDR] Christopher Paradise - Parradice - Pardice - Paredise The MD Early Census states that in 1723 a Christopher PARRADICE lived in Mattaponie Hundred, Somerset Co., MD. Christopher PARDICE was Test for the 1718 Will of John Jones of Mattapany, Somerset Co., MD. 18 Sept 1761 in Worcester Co., MD a Christopher PARADISE/PAREDISE wrote a will listing his wife as Hannah. Does anyone know the names of any of his children or his parents? Clare *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The messages are coming to me, too. They are not coming through the LDRoots list itself, but appears to be a list member who must have a number of LDRoots members' email addresses in his address book, which has apparently been hijacked by a spambot or virus. I will send him an email, but the best defense at the moment may just be to set that particular email address ([email protected]) to "ignore" or "reject" in your email program. Shari Handley LDRoots List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2010 7:08:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [LDR] Emails to LDR members possible scam Yes, these (at least a dozen, maybe more) appear to have been coming in for a week or more, almost all routed into spam here.  They have an attachment, which I'm not inclined to open.... As Mike said, the distribution list includes several recognizable LDR addresses, as well as others. Offhand, I don't recognize the AOL sender's name, but maybe Shari does, as maybe an LDR lister, and might contact the party... John -----Original Message----- From: mike hilton <[email protected]> To: mike hilton <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jun 5, 2010 4:20 pm Subject: Re: [LDR] Emails to LDR members possible scam Roy, there is no subject line listed but it will be from [email protected] And do not click on this but you will see it if you get an email from this person's computer which has apparently been hacked into. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

*I too had a problem last year. Someone was using my E-Mail account. I changed my PASSWORD and that cleared it up*. On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:10 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > The messages are coming to me, too. They are not coming through the > LDRoots list itself, but appears to be a list member who must have a number > of LDRoots members' email addresses in his address book, which has > apparently been hijacked by a spambot or virus. > > I will send him an email, but the best defense at the moment may just be to > set that particular email address ([email protected]) to "ignore" or > "reject" in your email program. > > Shari Handley > LDRoots List Admin > > > >

The MD Early Census states that in 1723 a Christopher PARRADICE lived in Mattaponie Hundred, Somerset Co., MD. Christopher PARDICE was Test for the 1718 Will of John Jones of Mattapany, Somerset Co., MD. 18 Sept 1761 in Worcester Co., MD a Christopher PARADISE/PAREDISE wrote a will listing his wife as Hannah. Does anyone know the names of any of his children or his parents? Clare

Does anyone have ancestors from Worcester County who served during the Revolutionary War? I"m looking for photocopies of muster lists, correspondence, pension records, etc. of the Worcester Militia as I attempt to prove at least one of my Eastern Shores ancestors was a patriot. I have found references in libraries to original documents of some of the Companies' lists. My ancestor Burrell Drummond (transcribed as "Bur*ll Drumman") enlisted as a private in 1780 under Capt. Charles Bennett. Other family names in this company include: Selby, Townsend; Owens; Pusey; Anderson; Riggen; Atkinson; Merrell (Merrill); Ruark. This is from Henry C. Peden, Jr.'s "Revolutionary Patriots of Worcester & Somerset Counties, Maryland, 1775-1783." I have someone at the Maryland Historical Society looking through some boxes of original documents of the time but hoped that maybe someone on the list might know of other original sources. Burrell Drummond, son of Stephen and Elizabeth (UNK) Drummond, died in 1791 and probably never received any pension payments. His widow, Naomi Selby Drummond, married and was widowed a second time by 1796; Burrell and Naomi's three children moved to Kentucky before 1807, and then to Illinois and Indiana. Not sure what happened to Naomi or if she moved with them. Eleanor * Rayl

Here is a link to information on the Churches in East New Market, MD http://www.collinsfactor.com/church/church.htm I transcribed the records of the Trinity Methodist Episcopal Church from 1858 to 1884 at this link: http://www.collinsfactor.com/church/mec.htm It also includes a list of ministers for the Dorchester Circuit dating to 1804. Records for the St. Stephens Episcopal Church for a few years around 1900 are available at the MD State Archives on microfilm. I am not aware of any other old ENM Church records being available. Frank On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:18 PM, margaret calvano <[email protected]> wrote: > > Likewise, I would be interested in knowing if there are any records available, such as Pat has requested, in the churches of East New Market, Dorchester Co. > > > > Thanks, Pat, for initiating this request...and good luck with your research! > > > > Marge > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:25:54 -0400 >> Subject: [LDR] Wesley Chapel at Andrews, Dorchester County >> >> Does anyone on the list know if the Wesley Chapel, at Wesley Church Road and >> Andrews Road, has any records available? I noticed it was named as a >> Heritage Award winner recently at an event in Cambridge, so apparently it >> remains an active congregation. I am interested in whatever christening, >> marriage or death records, or even any membership/attendance type records >> that might exist, especially for the 1800s, perhaps into the early 1900s. >> If anyone has information regarding someone to contact there affiliated with >> that church, it would be appreciated. >> >> >> >> Many thanks. >> >> >> >> Pat >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >