Ancestry has them, allegedly with a "free" index. I have little faith in their definition of free, but I can look for whoever you most want. Elizabeth In a message dated 6/26/2010 4:20:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I give up ! I have searched, perused and otherwise poured over the National Archives website looking for the Mortality Schedules 1850-1880 for SOM, WOR and WIC Counties (Maryland). I need the Series Number and the Reel Number or a URL where I can find the info for myself ! Roy C. Pollitt *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I give up ! I have searched, perused and otherwise poured over the National Archives website looking for the Mortality Schedules 1850-1880 for SOM, WOR and WIC Counties (Maryland). I need the Series Number and the Reel Number or a URL where I can find the info for myself ! Roy C. Pollitt

Thank you, Becky!! -----Original Message----- From: Miller's Choice <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:35 am Subject: Re: [LDR] Winder-Venables-Crockett I don't have a proof document that Richard Crockett married Elizabeth Venables ut I think that is the case. The speculation probably arose since a son was amed Winder Crockett. When we don't have a ready record of a wife's surname, ost of us jump at the surname used as a child's given name, thinking that must e the wife's surname. In this case, it was the wife's mother's surname. The Winder family was very small and (to my knowledge) the only other Elizabeth inder was the daughter of Capt. John Winder son of Lt. Col. John d. 1698. That lizabeth Winder married Christopher Dashiell and Walter Jacobs. The only thing I could find connecting Crockett to Venables was Benjamin enables and Robert Crockett were named as next of kin on the inventory of John rockett on 15 July 1749 (40:414). Benjamin Venables was the son of Joseph and lizabeth Winder Venables and thus Elizabeth Venables' brother. Robert Crockett as the brother of the dec'd John, both being uncles of Richard Crockett d. 765. y research on these families was conducted well over a decade ago and there ight be something that has come to light since that time. I haven't looked. he above next of kin relationships were discernable; I have some nok in my own ines which I have never deciphered. he two which come immediately to mind, since I've toyed with them for a quarter entury, are: ow is Mary Waggaman nok to George Austin d. Worc. 1766? ow are John Henry and Margaret Wilson nok to Capt. John West d. Som. 1716? nd so it goes. We all just keep picking away at the clues, trying to identify ur kith and kin. ecky ary Waggaman was nee Woolford and the widow of Henry Waggaman; George's wife as Priscilla unknown. The greatest creditors were Levin and Mary Gale, so Mary asn't a creditor. Incidentally, George named a son Harris Austin, who was iven his paternal grandmother's surname. I see a relationship (but not at all hat I would call close) between [Rev] John Henry and Margaret Wilson but either to Capt. West who married Katherine Revell of Randall. ________________________________ rom: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> o: [email protected] ent: Wed, June 23, 2010 10:19:52 PM ubject: [LDR] Winder-Venables-Crockett am trying to connect John Winder (d1698) with Joseph Venables Crockett bc1765-1822). It's proven that John Winder's daughter, Elizabeth, married oseph Venables. My connection is that their daughter, Elizabeth Venables arried Richard Crockett (1708-1765). Their son, William (d1772) was the father f Joseph Venables Crockett. Joseph V. Crockett is named in Elizabeth rockett's will probated 1794 as executor and heir (grandson). There was some peculation that Richard Crockett (1708-1765) married 1st Elizabeth Winder and nd Elizabeth Venables. Has anyone researched this connection? Thanks, Jerrod *************************************** UESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? isit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: ttp://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ************************************** UESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? isit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: ttp://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Nope. Outside my borders. Nothing pops up for Ezekiel on the MD side, either, just to be complete. Sorry. John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Jun 26, 2010 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [LDR] Land Books Hi John, Would you happen to know where to find land records for Ezekiel McCready, who died in 1787 in Northampton Co? His will mentions his property, but I cannot find any mention in Whitelaws. Thanks, Bev W

Hi John, Would you happen to know where to find land records for Ezekiel McCready, who died in 1787 in Northampton Co? His will mentions his property, but I cannot find any mention in Whitelaws. Thanks, Bev W -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Jun 26, 2010 7:39 am Subject: Re: [LDR] Land Books Roy: Given that John's response points to the MSA's already-accessible chronological list, I'm wondering what your objective is beyond what's already there. I can add, though, that date span covered in specific deed volumes is more complicated than MSA represents, or even realizes, for early Somerset deeds (up to about 1722). In that time, the deeds were often jointly bound in various ways with other materials: court records, cattle marks, vitals and other odds and ends. There are many instances in which the sets of material co-bound are not from the same span of years, and many in which two or more deed volumes overlap in dates, though not recognized in the MSA guide. In some volumes there are additional deeds appended, from some years downstream from the main set of deeds in the book. All this affects some 17 volumes in one way or another. There is even one small deed volume which altogether escaped the attention of the clerks who created the master county index.... Another issue is that some of the deeds are "hidden" within the court records sections of the jointly bound volumes and not identified in the finding aid. Another volume is referred to in the master index in a couple of different ways, though pointing to the same book. And there are internal gaps of missing pages here and there which are only disclosed when one does close-order title work or a careful look at pagination. (Occasional pages are also missing from later volumes, too.) And maybe some other variations I didn't mention... In any event, having been through every page of every volume, I do know where all the bodies are buried (and what seems to be forever lost) in order to construct a title chaining through all the deeds up to the Revolution and beyond. I have here a long set of notes on what's where in each volume, down to the page level, and dates and types of subject matter covered, etc., which was about the only way I could keep traceability for the whole "solution". It' was a very, very messy business, unraveling all this. Some 17,000 pages just up to the Revolution, across Somerset and Worcester. John -----Original Message----- From: John Polk <[email protected]> Per MSA, Worcester land records, Libers AF, AG, AH, AI covering 1816-17, were destroyed in a fire in 1834. Also Liber J (1789). See http://guide.mdsa.net/series.cfm?action=viewSeries&ID=C2019 From: "Roy C. Pollitt" <[email protected]> >I am compiling a list, in chronological order, of the > Land Books for Somerset and Worcester Counties. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Roy: Given that John's response points to the MSA's already-accessible chronological list, I'm wondering what your objective is beyond what's already there. I can add, though, that date span covered in specific deed volumes is more complicated than MSA represents, or even realizes, for early Somerset deeds (up to about 1722). In that time, the deeds were often jointly bound in various ways with other materials: court records, cattle marks, vitals and other odds and ends. There are many instances in which the sets of material co-bound are not from the same span of years, and many in which two or more deed volumes overlap in dates, though not recognized in the MSA guide. In some volumes there are additional deeds appended, from some years downstream from the main set of deeds in the book. All this affects some 17 volumes in one way or another. There is even one small deed volume which altogether escaped the attention of the clerks who created the master county index.... Another issue is that some of the deeds are "hidden" within the court records sections of the jointly bound volumes and not identified in the finding aid. Another volume is referred to in the master index in a couple of different ways, though pointing to the same book. And there are internal gaps of missing pages here and there which are only disclosed when one does close-order title work or a careful look at pagination. (Occasional pages are also missing from later volumes, too.) And maybe some other variations I didn't mention... In any event, having been through every page of every volume, I do know where all the bodies are buried (and what seems to be forever lost) in order to construct a title chaining through all the deeds up to the Revolution and beyond. I have here a long set of notes on what's where in each volume, down to the page level, and dates and types of subject matter covered, etc., which was about the only way I could keep traceability for the whole "solution". It' was a very, very messy business, unraveling all this. Some 17,000 pages just up to the Revolution, across Somerset and Worcester. John -----Original Message----- From: John Polk <[email protected]> Per MSA, Worcester land records, Libers AF, AG, AH, AI covering 1816-17, were destroyed in a fire in 1834. Also Liber J (1789). See http://guide.mdsa.net/series.cfm?action=viewSeries&ID=C2019 From: "Roy C. Pollitt" <[email protected]> >I am compiling a list, in chronological order, of the > Land Books for Somerset and Worcester Counties.

Roy - Per MSA, Worcester land records, Libers AF, AG, AH, AI covering 1816-17, were destroyed in a fire in 1834. Also Liber J (1789). See http://guide.mdsa.net/series.cfm?action=viewSeries&ID=C2019 John Polk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy C. Pollitt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 23:02 Subject: [LDR] Land Books >I am compiling a list, in chronological order, of the > Land Books for Somerset and Worcester Counties. > > Can anyone help me on this: > > I have - > WORC Co Liber AE 1814-1815 > Liber AJ 1818-1819 > > What Libers cover the period 1816-1817 ??? > AF, AG, AH ???? > > Or did these exist, once upon a time, but have > been lost (perhaps in the 19th Century Fire at > the Worc Co CH --- btw, what year was that fire)? > > Roy C. Pollitt > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am compiling a list, in chronological order, of the Land Books for Somerset and Worcester Counties. Can anyone help me on this: I have - WORC Co Liber AE 1814-1815 Liber AJ 1818-1819 What Libers cover the period 1816-1817 ??? AF, AG, AH ???? Or did these exist, once upon a time, but have been lost (perhaps in the 19th Century Fire at the Worc Co CH --- btw, what year was that fire)? Roy C. Pollitt

Flo: MHS = Maryland Historical Society Check out their website at www.mdhs.org Membership info is on that website. I don't know how much it costs now, annually, as I am a life member. ROY

What is the MHS & how can one become a member? Flo --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Roy C. Pollitt <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Roy C. Pollitt <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LDR] A new resource [at least to me] > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 6:33 AM > The MHS Magazine, from 1906, will be > accessible online > to MEMBERS of the MHS only. > > R C P > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or > UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

For those with slow computers, the 4th volume of each year contains an index for the entire year. I don't know how complete this index is, but you may be able to narrow your search by first using the index. You can then back track to the appropriate pages (within that year) to see the entry. Hope this helps, Gale -----Original Message----- From: Cree & Susan Newbold <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:50 pm Subject: [LDR] A new resource [at least to me] Fellow Listers --- I came across a very interesting resource today when doing my aperiodic run through of Cyndi's List. The site is sponsored by the Maryland Historical Society, and can be found at http://mdhs.mdsa.net/mhm/index.cfm What you will find on the site is the ability to access, for free, their "Maryland Historical Magazine" between the years 1906 and 2005. And here's the really good part: it was searchable! I found several items of interest in a couple searches, including a source document called "Commission Book 82", in which I found a fascinating listing of an ancestor, John Newbold of Somerset County, registering his 15 ton sloop "Catherine and Ann", "built in Accomac Virginia", with John Newbold noted as owner and master, on May 11, 1744 [this corroborated info obtained elsewhere, but added the ship's size and origin. Very cool. BTW --- are these Commission Books transcribed elsewhere?] Don't know how long this resource has been available. But I would suggest many on this List will find it very useful. Cheers, Cree Newbold Franklin TN *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It appears that I am wrong concerning online back issues of the Maryland Historical Society Magazine. Originally, we were told that online access would be available only to members. RCP

I have been searching the site this AM and find it to be very worthwhile. It is working for me...for free...at this point. Bev W -----Original Message----- From: Roy C. Pollitt <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:33 am Subject: Re: [LDR] A new resource [at least to me] The MHS Magazine, from 1906, will be accessible online to MEMBERS of the MHS only. R C P *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The MHS Magazine, from 1906, will be accessible online to MEMBERS of the MHS only. R C P

You say for "free". How do you access the "free" part? Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cree & Susan Newbold" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:50:56 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [LDR] A new resource [at least to me] Fellow Listers --- I came across a very interesting resource today when doing my aperiodic run through of Cyndi's List. The site is sponsored by the Maryland Historical Society, and can be found at http://mdhs.mdsa.net/mhm/index.cfm What you will find on the site is the ability to access, for free, their "Maryland Historical Magazine" between the years 1906 and 2005. And here's the really good part: it was searchable! I found several items of interest in a couple searches, including a source document called "Commission Book 82", in which I found a fascinating listing of an ancestor, John Newbold of Somerset County, registering his 15 ton sloop "Catherine and Ann", "built in Accomac Virginia", with John Newbold noted as owner and master, on May 11, 1744 [this corroborated info obtained elsewhere, but added the ship's size and origin. Very cool. BTW --- are these Commission Books transcribed elsewhere?] Don't know how long this resource has been available. But I would suggest many on this List will find it very useful. Cheers, Cree Newbold Franklin TN *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't have a proof document that Richard Crockett married Elizabeth Venables but I think that is the case.  The speculation probably arose since a son was named Winder Crockett.  When we don't have a ready record of a wife's surname, most of us jump at the surname used as a child's given name, thinking that must be the wife's surname.  In this case, it was the wife's mother's surname.  The Winder family was very small and (to my knowledge) the only other Elizabeth Winder was the daughter of Capt. John Winder son of Lt. Col. John d. 1698.  That Elizabeth Winder married Christopher Dashiell and Walter Jacobs. The only thing I could find connecting Crockett to Venables was Benjamin Venables and Robert Crockett were named as next of kin on the inventory of John Crockett on 15 July 1749 (40:414).   Benjamin Venables was the son of Joseph and Elizabeth Winder Venables and thus Elizabeth Venables' brother.  Robert Crockett was the brother of the dec'd John, both being uncles of Richard Crockett d. 1765.    My research on these families was conducted well over a decade ago and there might be something that has come to light since that time.  I haven't looked.  The above next of kin relationships were discernable; I have some nok in my own lines which I have never deciphered.    The two which come immediately to mind, since I've toyed with them for a quarter century, are:   How is Mary Waggaman nok to George Austin d. Worc. 1766? How are John Henry and Margaret Wilson nok to Capt. John West d. Som. 1716?   And so it goes.  We all just keep picking away at the clues, trying to identify our kith and kin.   Becky Mary Waggaman was nee Woolford and the widow of Henry Waggaman; George's wife was Priscilla unknown. The greatest creditors were Levin and Mary Gale, so Mary wasn't a creditor. Incidentally, George named a son Harris Austin, who was given his paternal grandmother's surname.  I see a relationship (but not at all what I would call close) between [Rev] John Henry and Margaret Wilson but neither to Capt. West who married Katherine Revell of Randall. ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 10:19:52 PM Subject: [LDR] Winder-Venables-Crockett I am trying to connect John Winder (d1698) with Joseph Venables Crockett (bc1765-1822).  It's proven that John Winder's daughter, Elizabeth, married Joseph Venables.  My connection is that their daughter, Elizabeth Venables married Richard Crockett (1708-1765).  Their son, William (d1772) was the father of Joseph Venables Crockett.  Joseph V. Crockett is named in Elizabeth Crockett's will probated 1794 as executor and heir (grandson).  There was some speculation that Richard Crockett (1708-1765) married 1st Elizabeth Winder and 2nd Elizabeth Venables.  Has anyone researched this connection? Thanks, Jerrod *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is free.  I just tried it.  But you have to give them your email address and then they want your snail info (looks like you can opt out of that, though).  It looks to be nice if one has a fast computer and a fast connection but for those of us with old machines who live in the hinterlands, it is very slow maneuvering as in walking to the kitchen to refresh the iced tea while the search selection loads the appropriate volume. Thanks, Cree, for alerting the list to this resource. Becky ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 10:01:02 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] A new resource [at least to me] You say for "free". How do you access the "free" part? Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cree & Susan Newbold" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:50:56 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [LDR] A new resource [at least to me] Fellow Listers --- I came across a very interesting resource today when doing my aperiodic run through of Cyndi's List. The site is sponsored by the Maryland Historical Society, and can be found at http://mdhs.mdsa.net/mhm/index.cfm What you will find on the site is the ability to access, for free, their "Maryland Historical Magazine" between the years 1906 and 2005. And here's the really good part: it was searchable! I found several items of interest in a couple searches, including a source document called "Commission Book 82", in which I found a fascinating listing of an ancestor, John Newbold of Somerset County, registering his 15 ton sloop "Catherine and Ann", "built in Accomac Virginia", with John Newbold noted as owner and master, on May 11, 1744 [this corroborated info obtained elsewhere, but added the ship's size and origin. Very cool. BTW --- are these Commission Books transcribed elsewhere?] Don't know how long this resource has been available. But I would suggest many on this List will find it very useful. Cheers, Cree Newbold Franklin TN *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fellow Listers --- I came across a very interesting resource today when doing my aperiodic run through of Cyndi's List. The site is sponsored by the Maryland Historical Society, and can be found at http://mdhs.mdsa.net/mhm/index.cfm What you will find on the site is the ability to access, for free, their "Maryland Historical Magazine" between the years 1906 and 2005. And here's the really good part: it was searchable! I found several items of interest in a couple searches, including a source document called "Commission Book 82", in which I found a fascinating listing of an ancestor, John Newbold of Somerset County, registering his 15 ton sloop "Catherine and Ann", "built in Accomac Virginia", with John Newbold noted as owner and master, on May 11, 1744 [this corroborated info obtained elsewhere, but added the ship's size and origin. Very cool. BTW --- are these Commission Books transcribed elsewhere?] Don't know how long this resource has been available. But I would suggest many on this List will find it very useful. Cheers, Cree Newbold Franklin TN

I am trying to connect John Winder (d1698) with Joseph Venables Crockett (bc1765-1822). It's proven that John Winder's daughter, Elizabeth, married Joseph Venables. My connection is that their daughter, Elizabeth Venables married Richard Crockett (1708-1765). Their son, William (d1772) was the father of Joseph Venables Crockett. Joseph V. Crockett is named in Elizabeth Crockett's will probated 1794 as executor and heir (grandson). There was some speculation that Richard Crockett (1708-1765) married 1st Elizabeth Winder and 2nd Elizabeth Venables. Has anyone researched this connection? Thanks, Jerrod

Beck/Nancy; I read with great interest your posting on the Dayton family line. My great grandfather was Otto Dayton from Elliott's Island. My records are tucked away at this point as my wife is consigning me to the third floor of our home/store here in Reid's Grove, so I do not know the complete lineage. There is also a William Dayton in this line that lived on the neighboring farm to the Lewis' at Lewis Wharf. I am not sure of "complete" connection but I to through this line (Otto and William) am connected to Thomas Dayton and as Becky has said he seemed to "ooze" up from the marsh. One family connection that I have laughed about over the years is to the Foxwell's of Elliott's Island. My wife was a Foxwell whose family is from the island. I was talking with her grandfather Foxwell one day about who was related to whom? and we discussed the Dayton's from the island. Come to find out Otto Dayton's sister Jemima was my wife's great-great grandmother. My wife and I are also related through the Hughes line in her family as they all came from Hughesville (Bestpitch Ferry), and Willey's Neck (Andrews). There is also a Native American bloodline here on Hughes line that I am trying to figure out was well. Any thoughts on this? Tom Reid's Grove Country Store Tom Bradshaw 5106 Rhodesdale Vienna Road Rhodesdale Maryland 21659 410-463-4366 cell 410-943-1212 home [email protected]