My 6-gr grandfather's name was Thomas Pollitt. P-o-l-l-i-t-t His will (1708) was signed by "his mark" ... so he was illiterate. In short, he could not proofread anything. And ... more often than not, the person doing the writing was semi-literate according to today's standards. So Thomas' name on his ORIGINAL will was spelled P-H-O-L-E-T What I am getting at is this. (For those of you who live on Delmarva, or who have visited kin/friends there for years you can attest to this.) The folks of Delmarva have an accent found nowhere else. It causes oral dictation to sometimes be altered. Case example: One of my relatives was named Williamana. The speech patterns caused the stone cutter to put "William Anor" on her tombstone. By the way, this Delmarva accent is rapidly fading with the influx of people from other areas visiting or moving to Delmarva. This is just a few musings on surname spelling. Be flexible and keep an open mind when it comes to spelling. Remember you are dealing with many factors involved when you research documents 150-300 years old or so. THAT IS WHY GENEALOGY IS SO MUCH FUN ! RCP
There was a John Neal associated with the Polk family in Damn (Dames) Quarter in first half of 18th century and in the upper Nanticoke area (NW Fork), then in Dorchester, now Sussex, after they moved there in 1740's. I don't know if he was connected to the other John Neals cited in foregoing messages but thought I should mention for those who may have interest. John Neal (Neall, Oneall, Neial) is found in tax list for Monie Hundred from 1730-1739 in the household of Joseph Polk who lived at Polks Folly in Damn Quarter. Joseph moved to Dorchester about 1740 and neither he nor Neal are in the Monie tax lists after that. I presume Neal also moved to Dorchester since he appears as one of the witnesses to Joseph Polk/Pollock's will written in Dorchester in 1751. He is also listed as a security for Joseph's wife Lydia who was executrix of Joseph's estate. John White of Dames Quarter identified his daughter Margaret as the wife of John Neal in his will written 1761. There don't seem to be any probate records for John Neal in the Maryland Prerogative Court records. There is also a John Neal who was fingered as the begetter of Johanna Bryan's illegitimate child in her trial for fornication in Somerset Court, 20 March 1715/16. John Polk Havre de Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Pebworth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 13:47 Subject: Re: [LDR] Family Bibles >I am descended from a John Neal who married a Mary Vance b. ca 1810. I do > not know where because according to the various census she was b. in PA, > VA > and Ireland. I do not know what happened to John but Mary and her 2 sons > were living in Allegheny Co., Pa. according to the 1850 Census. Her sons > were John b. ca 1839 and William b. ca 1847. Does this match any of your > information? > Clare > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:37 AM > Subject: [LDR] Family Bibles > > >> >> Dear Listers, >> >> There are two family Bibles that are in need of loving homes. The >> current >> owners are not interested in them and would like to see them with someone >> or some group that would find them useful. >> >> These Bibles are: >> >> 1) The Parsons Family. First entry in births is Ebenezer Parsons, born >> in >> 1814. The text is in good condition with the binding still intact. >> Entries for births, deaths and marriages are in lovely, legible >> handwriting. This family lived in the Broad Creek Hundred, near >> Gumborough in 1850. >> >> 2) The Neal Family. This is the family of John Neal with entries dating >> in the mid to late 1800's. It is LARGE, binding falling off, entries >> beginning to fade. This family lived around the Seaford area. >> >> They are not up for sale, just needing a place to reside. Any >> suggestions >> on where they could find a good home would be appreciated. >> >> Thank you. >> Teresa A. Derrickson >> nee Chandler >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Well, people also walked to Ohio from Delaware. Not me, of course. I would not care to have to drive that far, never mind walk. In a message dated 7/16/2010 10:27:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I agree with that also. But I think :-) the Better Business Bureau was too far away, in Philadelphia, to be much help. Very early on, it was illegal to import horses in to Maryland. Just think of walking from St Marys, all the way to Philadelphia (& with the Interstate still in the planning stage). But seriously.......... Joe Lake >I am quite sure they pronounced it Coatny, but when you pay someone to > write your will for you, they should be able to spell correctly, regardless of > pronunciation. The surname is also spelled Yates (correct), Aytes and > Yeats in the same document. > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 7/16/2010 8:22:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Yes, I follow (& agree altho, again, no authority). The next step, should > it ever > present itself, may clear up the "mystery" in an instant. > > On the "Coatney"/Courtney example, you may not be giving those Colonials > due credit. > I'd wager (no risk, since we cannot prove it) a pretty penny that > "Coatney" was > exactly the way they pronounced it in general conversation. :-) > > Joe Lake > >> Remember that spelling was an exercise in creativity, and apparently > people >> wrote what they thought they heard, not necessarily what was correct. >> This is why I have a woman whose name is spelled "Coatny", even though > her >> name was Courtney. It is also why a manumitted slave, Manuel Vinson, is >> listed as Manure Vinson somewhere or other that I do not recall at this > moment. >> No one could spell, few could write, and those who could do neither had > no >> idea how their names were being mangled. It is also why my 2g gf is > shown >> as "Gorg" Vincent, gender "mail" on his 1892 death certificate. And I >> would bet that the funeral director thought he was literate! >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> In a message dated 7/16/2010 7:11:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Elizabeth .... I have both a copy of the original handwritten document > of >> the 1741 >> will and a 1926 typewritten transcripton copy. In the typed copy the >> transcriber >> (Clara R. Duffel) first typed it as "Senot" and then changed it to a > "T", >> for >> "Tenot". >> >> Comparing the handwritten original to a handwriting example sheet > (showing >> the >> generally used handwritten forms for the individual letters of the >> alphabet in the >> Colonial period) and in comparing the name "Tenot" to decipherable words, >> beginning >> with a "T", in other portions of the original document, it appears "T" > is >> the >> probably the correct call (altho no handwriting expert I). >> >> Having said that, Jenet/Janet makes more sense that "Tenot" and Tennant. >> Whichever >> it is, beyond the above I've not found a further situation requiring me > to >> make a >> choice. Unfortunately. >> >> Thanks, Joe Lake >> >> >> >>> Is it possible that there is a spelling error or something, and the > name >>> should have been Jenet/Janet? >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 7/16/2010 5:49:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> @ 441PM Janet Hunter wrote..... >>> >>> >>>> Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) >>> amongst the >>>> Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and >>> others have >>>> given that to one of their sons. >>>> >>>> My best, >>>> >>>> Janet Hunter >>> >>> To the best of my knowledge I have no connection to the Bowen string, > of >>> which the >>> above paragraph was a part. >>> >>> The spouse of Samuel Hopkins, a primary interest of mine, had a spouse >>> whose given >>> name was spelled "Tenot" in his 1741 Sussex Co. DE will. The only >>> connection I have >>> ever been able to concjecture for that spelling of her given name was >>> "Tenant". >>> However I never found a "Tenant" surname connection to support my >>> conjecture. Maybe >>> there's a better conjecture :-) >>> >>> Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the >>> Tenants >>> (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? >>> >>> Thanks for any fill in, if available. >>> >>> Joe Lake > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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Both Whittington JR and SR had a son James. Please forgive me for getting momentarily confused. On reflection, it was not clear to me to which will James of Whitttington was referring when he mentions land my father devised to me. I reread the deed and Whittington Sr.'s will and now it seems more likely it is James of Whittington Sr. who is deeding the land. The 1821 deed refers to "down the public road from Popular town to the Trap and where the Littleneck Road crosses so it is more likely that the James who deeds this land to Rachel is James son of Whittington the elder d. 1790...Thoughts? Normal 0 false false false MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} Whittington Bowin 3 September 1789 To son James Bowin house and lot where Sarah Moss now lives containing 44 aces. This beginning at the causeway crossing the Trap road at the corner of Little Neck Road and running down Little Neck Road until to comes to the road leading from Henry White's to Newport Bridge and thence down Newport Road . To son Whittington Bowin - rest of lands if he pays bond that Burton Waples had against Edward Dymoak and myself To daughter Levinah - negro woman Tamer, boy Stephen To daughter Rhoda -negro girl Mitilda and boy Levin To children Whittington, Sarah, William, James, Tennent, Levinar, Rhody - rest of estate Executor: sons Whittington and James Witness: Mary Green, Caty White, Joseph Green 10 April 1790 Then came ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:36:52 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [LDR] Whittington/Rachel deed from 1821 Liber AM 307 Wo Cty This indenture 8 August 1821 between Rachel Bowin widow of Whittington on the one part and Mary Bowin wife of James Bowin on the other part both of Worcester County ....that the said Rachel Bowen for and inconsideration of the love and affection which she has for her said daughter Mary Bowin and for and in consideration of the sum of $100 paid to her said Rachel by her said daughter Mary....convey(s) all that lot of ground ...which was this day cconveyed to her said Rachel Bowin from James Bowin supposed to contain near three acres of land .... posting this deed for discussion ----- Original Message ----- From: JM Stell To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:58:06 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [LDR] Whittington Bowen There appears to be FOUR Whittington Bowens. I thought I was confused when I picked at these before and I'm a tad older now and even more confused! However, Liz and I may be getting a bit closer to at least correcting the small percentage of Bowens that were put together before. Whittington Bowen d. 1790 Wor., m. Lavinia Fleming, m. 2nd Rachel Jenkins, d. aft 1821, dtr of John Jenkins & widow of Pattey Truitt (son of William d. 1723) Whittington Bowen, Jr. d. 1816 Wor., m. a different Rachel Jenkins, dtr of Jonathan Jenkins, (son of Whittington d. 1790) Whittington Bowen d. bef 11/28/1820 Wor. "of David," Adm. to Josiah Collins, bonds by Joshua Prideaux and Samuel Tubs; likely the Whittington Bowen who m. (lic) 1/26/1806 Wor. Delilah Selby (no adm. for her) Whittington Bowen d. bef 8/29/1825 Acc., adm. to Thomas Fletcher; Raymond Riley & Spencer Drummond sec. (believe he's son of James of Whittington d. 1790; James Bowen m. Mary Truitt, dtr. of Pattey Truitt & Rachel Jenkins (the one who m. Whittington d. 1790) He's evidently the Whittington Bowen who m. 1815 Wor. Elizabeth Lucas Elizabeth Bowen, widow of Whittington Bowen, m. (lic) 1/31/1831 Acc. Meshach Gaskins (d. bef 6/28/1852); she left a will and named dtr. Sallie M. Bowen (among several Gaskins children) If anyone knows anything further of any of these folks, it would help: Ann Selby dtr of Parker Selby III (d. 1791) m. Zadock Purnell d. aft 1811; don't know when they married, but I've got a Caty (Selby) who m. 1805 Wor. Zadock Purnell. This Caty/Catherine is 'evidently' dtr of Eleanor & Jesse Selby (d. 1788) and it 'appears' Eleanor Selby married a Bowen "Huntington" 5/17/1806 Zadock Purnell, wife Catey Purnell, sold to Eli Bowen rights to Catey from mother Eleanor Bowen - did Eleanor Selby marry a Bowen and which one; anyone have her maiden name - which Zadock Purnell, two possibles: Zadock Purnell b.c. 1770, orphan of Col. Wm. Purnell & Mary Elizabeth Fassitt - know no more about him Zadock Purnell b.c. 1760, d. aft 1811, m. Ann Selby, dtr of Parker Selby III d. 1791 Judy Stell [email protected] *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
AM 309 This indenture made 8 August 1821 between James Bowen of Whittington of Wo Cty..and Rachel Bowen widow of Whittington Bowen on the other part ..that the said James Bowen for the sum of $250 paid to him by the said Rachel Bowen convey(s) all that lot of land which his father devised to him supposed to contain near three acres...... The will to which he refers: F:176 Whittington Bowan (Bowin) Senior 25 November 1815 To wife Rachel Bowin - all property for lifetime To son James Bowin - real estate, at wife's death, in Buckingham Hundred called Hill Glass and resurvey of Bachelor's Lot. Also Negro man Plato and Negro man Will who shall never to be removed off my farm and if Plato becomes infirm, he is to be maintained on my farm To daughter Hetty Lucas -if she should ever be a widow, profits from my farm in Queponco To granddaughter Elisa (Eliza) Merrill - "after the death of my wife or in case her mother Hetty Lucas should ever be a widow after such widowhood shall ___ the one half of my farm in Queponco Hundred". Also mahogany table and chairs purchased from the estate of her father Kendal Merrill To granddaughters Hetty Whittington Lucas and Rachel Jenkins Lucas - the other half in like manner Executor: wife Witness: Cord Hazzard, Isaac Quinton, James Franklin 27 February 1816 Then came ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:41:33 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [LDR] Whittington Bowen -- Clarifications. Hi Judy, The statement that the Whittington Bowens Sr & Jr. both married Rachel Jenkins is in direct contradiction to documentation and what we concluded before, and what I believe is accurate based on my own research back then and at the OCmuseum website. At the ghotes website, based on the conclusions back when you have Whittington Bowen JR, married to Rachel Jenkins, dtr of John Jenkins and widow of Pattey Truitt. See: http://www.esva.net/ghotes/bowen/d0/i0022131.htm#i22131 I don't think there is any evidence that Whittington Bowen SR married anybody other than Lavinia Fleming. He died before there are documents of a Whittington Bowen and Rachel. Do you have some documentation to that effect? I'm always open to correction and new info. ALSO, Pattey Truitt was the son of George Truitt and Mary Pattey, not William as seems to be stated below. A relationship for which there is ample documentation. Though, I realize you are probably talking about Whittington Sr's father being William and not Pattey's, but the way it is written below is ambiguous? Maybe now, ten plus years later we'll get a few more things sorted out. Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) amongst the Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and others have given that to one of their sons. My best, Janet Hunter Whittington Bowen d. 1790 Wor., m. Lavinia Fleming, m. 2nd Rachel Jenkins, d. aft 1821, dtr of John Jenkins & widow of Pattey Truitt (son of William d. 1723) Whittington Bowen, Jr. d. 1816 Wor., m. a different Rachel Jenkins, dtr of Jonathan Jenkins, (son of Whittington d. 1790) -----Original Message----- From: JM Stell To: lower-delmarva-roots Sent: Fri, Jul 16, 2010 4:23 pm Subject: [LDR] Whittington Bowen There appears to be FOUR Whittington Bowens. I thought I was confused when I picked at these before and I'm a tad older now and even more confused! However, Liz and I may be getting a bit closer to at least correcting the small percentage of Bowens that were put together before. Whittington Bowen d. 1790 Wor., m. Lavinia Fleming, m. 2nd Rachel Jenkins, d. aft 1821, dtr of John Jenkins & widow of Pattey Truitt (son of William d. 1723) Whittington Bowen, Jr. d. 1816 Wor., m. a different Rachel Jenkins, dtr of Jonathan Jenkins, (son of Whittington d. 1790) Whittington Bowen d. bef 11/28/1820 Wor. "of David," Adm. to Josiah Collins, bonds by Joshua Prideaux and Samuel Tubs; likely the Whittington Bowen who m. (lic) 1/26/1806 Wor. Delilah Selby (no adm. for her) Whittington Bowen d. bef 8/29/1825 Acc., adm. to Thomas Fletcher; Raymond Riley & Spencer Drummond sec. (believe he's son of James of Whittington d. 1790; James Bowen m. Mary Truitt, dtr. of Pattey Truitt & Rachel Jenkins (the one who m. Whittington d. 1790) He's evidently the Whittington Bowen who m. 1815 Wor. Elizabeth Lucas Elizabeth Bowen, widow of Whittington Bowen, m. (lic) 1/31/1831 Acc. Meshach Gaskins (d. bef 6/28/1852); she left a will and named dtr. Sallie M. Bowen (among several Gaskins children) If anyone knows anything further of any of these folks, it would help: Ann Selby dtr of Parker Selby III (d. 1791) m. Zadock Purnell d. aft 1811; don't know when they married, but I've got a Caty (Selby) who m. 1805 Wor. Zadock Purnell. This Caty/Catherine is 'evidently' dtr of Eleanor & Jesse Selby (d. 1788) and it 'appears' Eleanor Selby married a Bowen "Huntington" 5/17/1806 Zadock Purnell, wife Catey Purnell, sold to Eli Bowen rights to Catey from mother Eleanor Bowen - did Eleanor Selby marry a Bowen and which one; anyone have her maiden name - which Zadock Purnell, two possibles: Zadock Purnell b.c. 1770, orphan of Col. Wm. Purnell & Mary Elizabeth Fassitt - know no more about him Zadock Purnell b.c. 1760, d. aft 1811, m. Ann Selby, dtr of Parker Selby III d. 1791 Judy Stell [email protected] *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Liber AM 307 Wo Cty This indenture 8 August 1821 between Rachel Bowin widow of Whittington on the one part and Mary Bowin wife of James Bowin on the other part both of Worcester County ....that the said Rachel Bowen for and inconsideration of the love and affection which she has for her said daughter Mary Bowin and for and in consideration of the sum of $100 paid to her said Rachel by her said daughter Mary....convey(s) all that lot of ground ...which was this day cconveyed to her said Rachel Bowin from James Bowin supposed to contain near three acres of land .... posting this deed for discussion ----- Original Message ----- From: JM Stell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:58:06 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [LDR] Whittington Bowen There appears to be FOUR Whittington Bowens. I thought I was confused when I picked at these before and I'm a tad older now and even more confused! However, Liz and I may be getting a bit closer to at least correcting the small percentage of Bowens that were put together before. Whittington Bowen d. 1790 Wor., m. Lavinia Fleming, m. 2nd Rachel Jenkins, d. aft 1821, dtr of John Jenkins & widow of Pattey Truitt (son of William d. 1723) Whittington Bowen, Jr. d. 1816 Wor., m. a different Rachel Jenkins, dtr of Jonathan Jenkins, (son of Whittington d. 1790) Whittington Bowen d. bef 11/28/1820 Wor. "of David," Adm. to Josiah Collins, bonds by Joshua Prideaux and Samuel Tubs; likely the Whittington Bowen who m. (lic) 1/26/1806 Wor. Delilah Selby (no adm. for her) Whittington Bowen d. bef 8/29/1825 Acc., adm. to Thomas Fletcher; Raymond Riley & Spencer Drummond sec. (believe he's son of James of Whittington d. 1790; James Bowen m. Mary Truitt, dtr. of Pattey Truitt & Rachel Jenkins (the one who m. Whittington d. 1790) He's evidently the Whittington Bowen who m. 1815 Wor. Elizabeth Lucas Elizabeth Bowen, widow of Whittington Bowen, m. (lic) 1/31/1831 Acc. Meshach Gaskins (d. bef 6/28/1852); she left a will and named dtr. Sallie M. Bowen (among several Gaskins children) If anyone knows anything further of any of these folks, it would help: Ann Selby dtr of Parker Selby III (d. 1791) m. Zadock Purnell d. aft 1811; don't know when they married, but I've got a Caty (Selby) who m. 1805 Wor. Zadock Purnell. This Caty/Catherine is 'evidently' dtr of Eleanor & Jesse Selby (d. 1788) and it 'appears' Eleanor Selby married a Bowen "Huntington" 5/17/1806 Zadock Purnell, wife Catey Purnell, sold to Eli Bowen rights to Catey from mother Eleanor Bowen - did Eleanor Selby marry a Bowen and which one; anyone have her maiden name - which Zadock Purnell, two possibles: Zadock Purnell b.c. 1770, orphan of Col. Wm. Purnell & Mary Elizabeth Fassitt - know no more about him Zadock Purnell b.c. 1760, d. aft 1811, m. Ann Selby, dtr of Parker Selby III d. 1791 Judy Stell [email protected] *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am quite sure they pronounced it Coatny, but when you pay someone to write your will for you, they should be able to spell correctly, regardless of pronunciation. The surname is also spelled Yates (correct), Aytes and Yeats in the same document. Elizabeth In a message dated 7/16/2010 8:22:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Yes, I follow (& agree altho, again, no authority). The next step, should it ever present itself, may clear up the "mystery" in an instant. On the "Coatney"/Courtney example, you may not be giving those Colonials due credit. I'd wager (no risk, since we cannot prove it) a pretty penny that "Coatney" was exactly the way they pronounced it in general conversation. :-) Joe Lake > Remember that spelling was an exercise in creativity, and apparently people > wrote what they thought they heard, not necessarily what was correct. > This is why I have a woman whose name is spelled "Coatny", even though her > name was Courtney. It is also why a manumitted slave, Manuel Vinson, is > listed as Manure Vinson somewhere or other that I do not recall at this moment. > No one could spell, few could write, and those who could do neither had no > idea how their names were being mangled. It is also why my 2g gf is shown > as "Gorg" Vincent, gender "mail" on his 1892 death certificate. And I > would bet that the funeral director thought he was literate! > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 7/16/2010 7:11:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Elizabeth .... I have both a copy of the original handwritten document of > the 1741 > will and a 1926 typewritten transcripton copy. In the typed copy the > transcriber > (Clara R. Duffel) first typed it as "Senot" and then changed it to a "T", > for > "Tenot". > > Comparing the handwritten original to a handwriting example sheet (showing > the > generally used handwritten forms for the individual letters of the > alphabet in the > Colonial period) and in comparing the name "Tenot" to decipherable words, > beginning > with a "T", in other portions of the original document, it appears "T" is > the > probably the correct call (altho no handwriting expert I). > > Having said that, Jenet/Janet makes more sense that "Tenot" and Tennant. > Whichever > it is, beyond the above I've not found a further situation requiring me to > make a > choice. Unfortunately. > > Thanks, Joe Lake > > > >> Is it possible that there is a spelling error or something, and the name >> should have been Jenet/Janet? >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> In a message dated 7/16/2010 5:49:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> @ 441PM Janet Hunter wrote..... >> >> >>> Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) >> amongst the >>> Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and >> others have >>> given that to one of their sons. >>> >>> My best, >>> >>> Janet Hunter >> >> To the best of my knowledge I have no connection to the Bowen string, of >> which the >> above paragraph was a part. >> >> The spouse of Samuel Hopkins, a primary interest of mine, had a spouse >> whose given >> name was spelled "Tenot" in his 1741 Sussex Co. DE will. The only >> connection I have >> ever been able to concjecture for that spelling of her given name was >> "Tenant". >> However I never found a "Tenant" surname connection to support my >> conjecture. Maybe >> there's a better conjecture :-) >> >> Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the >> Tenants >> (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? >> >> Thanks for any fill in, if available. >> >> Joe Lake *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Joe, one of my Archibald Calhouns was listed as Archeybold. Jackie Helmke [email protected] This message has been screened by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Whittington Bowen -- Clarifications. > Yes, I follow (& agree altho, again, no authority). The next step, should > it ever > present itself, may clear up the "mystery" in an instant. > > On the "Coatney"/Courtney example, you may not be giving those Colonials > due credit. > I'd wager (no risk, since we cannot prove it) a pretty penny that > "Coatney" was > exactly the way they pronounced it in general conversation. :-) > > Joe Lake > >> Remember that spelling was an exercise in creativity, and apparently >> people >> wrote what they thought they heard, not necessarily what was correct. >> This is why I have a woman whose name is spelled "Coatny", even though >> her >> name was Courtney. It is also why a manumitted slave, Manuel Vinson, is >> listed as Manure Vinson somewhere or other that I do not recall at this >> moment. >> No one could spell, few could write, and those who could do neither had >> no >> idea how their names were being mangled. It is also why my 2g gf is >> shown >> as "Gorg" Vincent, gender "mail" on his 1892 death certificate. And I >> would bet that the funeral director thought he was literate! >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> In a message dated 7/16/2010 7:11:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Elizabeth .... I have both a copy of the original handwritten document >> of >> the 1741 >> will and a 1926 typewritten transcripton copy. In the typed copy the >> transcriber >> (Clara R. Duffel) first typed it as "Senot" and then changed it to a >> "T", >> for >> "Tenot". >> >> Comparing the handwritten original to a handwriting example sheet >> (showing >> the >> generally used handwritten forms for the individual letters of the >> alphabet in the >> Colonial period) and in comparing the name "Tenot" to decipherable words, >> beginning >> with a "T", in other portions of the original document, it appears "T" >> is >> the >> probably the correct call (altho no handwriting expert I). >> >> Having said that, Jenet/Janet makes more sense that "Tenot" and Tennant. >> Whichever >> it is, beyond the above I've not found a further situation requiring me >> to >> make a >> choice. Unfortunately. >> >> Thanks, Joe Lake >> >> >> >>> Is it possible that there is a spelling error or something, and the >>> name >>> should have been Jenet/Janet? >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 7/16/2010 5:49:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> @ 441PM Janet Hunter wrote..... >>> >>> >>>> Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) >>> amongst the >>>> Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and >>> others have >>>> given that to one of their sons. >>>> >>>> My best, >>>> >>>> Janet Hunter >>> >>> To the best of my knowledge I have no connection to the Bowen string, >>> of >>> which the >>> above paragraph was a part. >>> >>> The spouse of Samuel Hopkins, a primary interest of mine, had a spouse >>> whose given >>> name was spelled "Tenot" in his 1741 Sussex Co. DE will. The only >>> connection I have >>> ever been able to concjecture for that spelling of her given name was >>> "Tenant". >>> However I never found a "Tenant" surname connection to support my >>> conjecture. Maybe >>> there's a better conjecture :-) >>> >>> Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the >>> Tenants >>> (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? >>> >>> Thanks for any fill in, if available. >>> >>> Joe Lake > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Jackie: May have been partly a name and partly a character reading. I'm sorry ... another of my bad jokes. Yes, I've seen Archibald spelled Ercibald and similar variations. Lots to work with there, but at least they wrote it down so we could puzzle over it. Joe Lake > Joe, one of my Archibald Calhouns was listed as Archeybold. > Jackie Helmke > > >> Yes, I follow (& agree altho, again, no authority). The next step, should >> it ever >> present itself, may clear up the "mystery" in an instant. >> >> On the "Coatney"/Courtney example, you may not be giving those Colonials >> due credit. >> I'd wager (no risk, since we cannot prove it) a pretty penny that >> "Coatney" was >> exactly the way they pronounced it in general conversation. :-)
I agree with that also. But I think :-) the Better Business Bureau was too far away, in Philadelphia, to be much help. Very early on, it was illegal to import horses in to Maryland. Just think of walking from St Marys, all the way to Philadelphia (& with the Interstate still in the planning stage). But seriously.......... Joe Lake >I am quite sure they pronounced it Coatny, but when you pay someone to > write your will for you, they should be able to spell correctly, regardless of > pronunciation. The surname is also spelled Yates (correct), Aytes and > Yeats in the same document. > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 7/16/2010 8:22:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Yes, I follow (& agree altho, again, no authority). The next step, should > it ever > present itself, may clear up the "mystery" in an instant. > > On the "Coatney"/Courtney example, you may not be giving those Colonials > due credit. > I'd wager (no risk, since we cannot prove it) a pretty penny that > "Coatney" was > exactly the way they pronounced it in general conversation. :-) > > Joe Lake > >> Remember that spelling was an exercise in creativity, and apparently > people >> wrote what they thought they heard, not necessarily what was correct. >> This is why I have a woman whose name is spelled "Coatny", even though > her >> name was Courtney. It is also why a manumitted slave, Manuel Vinson, is >> listed as Manure Vinson somewhere or other that I do not recall at this > moment. >> No one could spell, few could write, and those who could do neither had > no >> idea how their names were being mangled. It is also why my 2g gf is > shown >> as "Gorg" Vincent, gender "mail" on his 1892 death certificate. And I >> would bet that the funeral director thought he was literate! >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> In a message dated 7/16/2010 7:11:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Elizabeth .... I have both a copy of the original handwritten document > of >> the 1741 >> will and a 1926 typewritten transcripton copy. In the typed copy the >> transcriber >> (Clara R. Duffel) first typed it as "Senot" and then changed it to a > "T", >> for >> "Tenot". >> >> Comparing the handwritten original to a handwriting example sheet > (showing >> the >> generally used handwritten forms for the individual letters of the >> alphabet in the >> Colonial period) and in comparing the name "Tenot" to decipherable words, >> beginning >> with a "T", in other portions of the original document, it appears "T" > is >> the >> probably the correct call (altho no handwriting expert I). >> >> Having said that, Jenet/Janet makes more sense that "Tenot" and Tennant. >> Whichever >> it is, beyond the above I've not found a further situation requiring me > to >> make a >> choice. Unfortunately. >> >> Thanks, Joe Lake >> >> >> >>> Is it possible that there is a spelling error or something, and the > name >>> should have been Jenet/Janet? >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 7/16/2010 5:49:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> @ 441PM Janet Hunter wrote..... >>> >>> >>>> Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) >>> amongst the >>>> Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and >>> others have >>>> given that to one of their sons. >>>> >>>> My best, >>>> >>>> Janet Hunter >>> >>> To the best of my knowledge I have no connection to the Bowen string, > of >>> which the >>> above paragraph was a part. >>> >>> The spouse of Samuel Hopkins, a primary interest of mine, had a spouse >>> whose given >>> name was spelled "Tenot" in his 1741 Sussex Co. DE will. The only >>> connection I have >>> ever been able to concjecture for that spelling of her given name was >>> "Tenant". >>> However I never found a "Tenant" surname connection to support my >>> conjecture. Maybe >>> there's a better conjecture :-) >>> >>> Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the >>> Tenants >>> (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? >>> >>> Thanks for any fill in, if available. >>> >>> Joe Lake > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Remember that spelling was an exercise in creativity, and apparently people wrote what they thought they heard, not necessarily what was correct. This is why I have a woman whose name is spelled "Coatny", even though her name was Courtney. It is also why a manumitted slave, Manuel Vinson, is listed as Manure Vinson somewhere or other that I do not recall at this moment. No one could spell, few could write, and those who could do neither had no idea how their names were being mangled. It is also why my 2g gf is shown as "Gorg" Vincent, gender "mail" on his 1892 death certificate. And I would bet that the funeral director thought he was literate! Elizabeth In a message dated 7/16/2010 7:11:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Elizabeth .... I have both a copy of the original handwritten document of the 1741 will and a 1926 typewritten transcripton copy. In the typed copy the transcriber (Clara R. Duffel) first typed it as "Senot" and then changed it to a "T", for "Tenot". Comparing the handwritten original to a handwriting example sheet (showing the generally used handwritten forms for the individual letters of the alphabet in the Colonial period) and in comparing the name "Tenot" to decipherable words, beginning with a "T", in other portions of the original document, it appears "T" is the probably the correct call (altho no handwriting expert I). Having said that, Jenet/Janet makes more sense that "Tenot" and Tennant. Whichever it is, beyond the above I've not found a further situation requiring me to make a choice. Unfortunately. Thanks, Joe Lake > Is it possible that there is a spelling error or something, and the name > should have been Jenet/Janet? > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 7/16/2010 5:49:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > @ 441PM Janet Hunter wrote..... > > >> Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) > amongst the >> Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and > others have >> given that to one of their sons. >> >> My best, >> >> Janet Hunter > > To the best of my knowledge I have no connection to the Bowen string, of > which the > above paragraph was a part. > > The spouse of Samuel Hopkins, a primary interest of mine, had a spouse > whose given > name was spelled "Tenot" in his 1741 Sussex Co. DE will. The only > connection I have > ever been able to concjecture for that spelling of her given name was > "Tenant". > However I never found a "Tenant" surname connection to support my > conjecture. Maybe > there's a better conjecture :-) > > Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the > Tenants > (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? > > Thanks for any fill in, if available. > > Joe Lake > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Joe, My references are in the late 1700s and 1800s from Worcester County. THOUGH they do have Pattey ancestry which I believe was in Sussex County in the 1700s. janet Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the Tenants (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? -----Original Message----- From: joslake <[email protected]> To: lower-delmarva-roots <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jul 16, 2010 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [LDR] Whittington Bowen -- Clarifications. @ 441PM Janet Hunter wrote..... > Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) amongst the > Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and others have > given that to one of their sons. > > My best, > > Janet Hunter To the best of my knowledge I have no connection to the Bowen string, of which the above paragraph was a part. The spouse of Samuel Hopkins, a primary interest of mine, had a spouse whose given name was spelled "Tenot" in his 1741 Sussex Co. DE will. The only connection I have ever been able to concjecture for that spelling of her given name was "Tenant". However I never found a "Tenant" surname connection to support my conjecture. Maybe there's a better conjecture :-) Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the Tenants (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? Thanks for any fill in, if available. Joe Lake *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Elizabeth, That's always a thought. The references I have are for males. For example from Whaley bible record of my Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen: Elijah Tenant Whaley1, born December 24, 1835. See my post I referred to in the earlier email for the rest of their children: Janet Janet Is it possible that there is a spelling error or something, and the name should have been Jenet/Janet? Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: EMSCRS <[email protected]> To: lower-delmarva-roots <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jul 16, 2010 6:12 pm Subject: Re: [LDR] Whittington Bowen -- Clarifications. Is it possible that there is a spelling error or something, and the name should have been Jenet/Janet? Elizabeth In a message dated 7/16/2010 5:49:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: @ 441PM Janet Hunter wrote..... > Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) amongst the > Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and others have > given that to one of their sons. > > My best, > > Janet Hunter To the best of my knowledge I have no connection to the Bowen string, of which the above paragraph was a part. The spouse of Samuel Hopkins, a primary interest of mine, had a spouse whose given name was spelled "Tenot" in his 1741 Sussex Co. DE will. The only connection I have ever been able to concjecture for that spelling of her given name was "Tenant". However I never found a "Tenant" surname connection to support my conjecture. Maybe there's a better conjecture :-) Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the Tenants (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? Thanks for any fill in, if available. Joe Lake *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Is it possible that there is a spelling error or something, and the name should have been Jenet/Janet? Elizabeth In a message dated 7/16/2010 5:49:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: @ 441PM Janet Hunter wrote..... > Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) amongst the > Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and others have > given that to one of their sons. > > My best, > > Janet Hunter To the best of my knowledge I have no connection to the Bowen string, of which the above paragraph was a part. The spouse of Samuel Hopkins, a primary interest of mine, had a spouse whose given name was spelled "Tenot" in his 1741 Sussex Co. DE will. The only connection I have ever been able to concjecture for that spelling of her given name was "Tenant". However I never found a "Tenant" surname connection to support my conjecture. Maybe there's a better conjecture :-) Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the Tenants (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? Thanks for any fill in, if available. Joe Lake *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Janet .... thank you for the response. It's approx a 100 year difference, but it was a nebulous question in the first place, altho a cluster of Tennant's (surname) in an area would have made a worthwhile research target. Joe Lake > > Joe, > > My references are in the late 1700s and 1800s from Worcester County. THOUGH they > do have Pattey ancestry which I believe was in Sussex County in the 1700s. > > janet > > > Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the Tenants > > (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710?
Yes, I follow (& agree altho, again, no authority). The next step, should it ever present itself, may clear up the "mystery" in an instant. On the "Coatney"/Courtney example, you may not be giving those Colonials due credit. I'd wager (no risk, since we cannot prove it) a pretty penny that "Coatney" was exactly the way they pronounced it in general conversation. :-) Joe Lake > Remember that spelling was an exercise in creativity, and apparently people > wrote what they thought they heard, not necessarily what was correct. > This is why I have a woman whose name is spelled "Coatny", even though her > name was Courtney. It is also why a manumitted slave, Manuel Vinson, is > listed as Manure Vinson somewhere or other that I do not recall at this moment. > No one could spell, few could write, and those who could do neither had no > idea how their names were being mangled. It is also why my 2g gf is shown > as "Gorg" Vincent, gender "mail" on his 1892 death certificate. And I > would bet that the funeral director thought he was literate! > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 7/16/2010 7:11:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Elizabeth .... I have both a copy of the original handwritten document of > the 1741 > will and a 1926 typewritten transcripton copy. In the typed copy the > transcriber > (Clara R. Duffel) first typed it as "Senot" and then changed it to a "T", > for > "Tenot". > > Comparing the handwritten original to a handwriting example sheet (showing > the > generally used handwritten forms for the individual letters of the > alphabet in the > Colonial period) and in comparing the name "Tenot" to decipherable words, > beginning > with a "T", in other portions of the original document, it appears "T" is > the > probably the correct call (altho no handwriting expert I). > > Having said that, Jenet/Janet makes more sense that "Tenot" and Tennant. > Whichever > it is, beyond the above I've not found a further situation requiring me to > make a > choice. Unfortunately. > > Thanks, Joe Lake > > > >> Is it possible that there is a spelling error or something, and the name >> should have been Jenet/Janet? >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> In a message dated 7/16/2010 5:49:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> @ 441PM Janet Hunter wrote..... >> >> >>> Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) >> amongst the >>> Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and >> others have >>> given that to one of their sons. >>> >>> My best, >>> >>> Janet Hunter >> >> To the best of my knowledge I have no connection to the Bowen string, of >> which the >> above paragraph was a part. >> >> The spouse of Samuel Hopkins, a primary interest of mine, had a spouse >> whose given >> name was spelled "Tenot" in his 1741 Sussex Co. DE will. The only >> connection I have >> ever been able to concjecture for that spelling of her given name was >> "Tenant". >> However I never found a "Tenant" surname connection to support my >> conjecture. Maybe >> there's a better conjecture :-) >> >> Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the >> Tenants >> (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? >> >> Thanks for any fill in, if available. >> >> Joe Lake
Hi Judy, The statement that the Whittington Bowens Sr & Jr. both married Rachel Jenkins is in direct contradiction to documentation and what we concluded before, and what I believe is accurate based on my own research back then and at the OCmuseum website. At the ghotes website, based on the conclusions back when you have Whittington Bowen JR, married to Rachel Jenkins, dtr of John Jenkins and widow of Pattey Truitt. See: http://www.esva.net/ghotes/bowen/d0/i0022131.htm#i22131 I don't think there is any evidence that Whittington Bowen SR married anybody other than Lavinia Fleming. He died before there are documents of a Whittington Bowen and Rachel. Do you have some documentation to that effect? I'm always open to correction and new info. ALSO, Pattey Truitt was the son of George Truitt and Mary Pattey, not William as seems to be stated below. A relationship for which there is ample documentation. Though, I realize you are probably talking about Whittington Sr's father being William and not Pattey's, but the way it is written below is ambiguous? Maybe now, ten plus years later we'll get a few more things sorted out. Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) amongst the Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and others have given that to one of their sons. My best, Janet Hunter Whittington Bowen d. 1790 Wor., m. Lavinia Fleming, m. 2nd Rachel Jenkins, d. aft 1821, dtr of John Jenkins & widow of Pattey Truitt (son of William d. 1723) Whittington Bowen, Jr. d. 1816 Wor., m. a different Rachel Jenkins, dtr of Jonathan Jenkins, (son of Whittington d. 1790) -----Original Message----- From: JM Stell <[email protected]> To: lower-delmarva-roots <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jul 16, 2010 4:23 pm Subject: [LDR] Whittington Bowen There appears to be FOUR Whittington Bowens. I thought I was confused when I picked at these before and I'm a tad older now and even more confused! However, Liz and I may be getting a bit closer to at least correcting the small percentage of Bowens that were put together before. Whittington Bowen d. 1790 Wor., m. Lavinia Fleming, m. 2nd Rachel Jenkins, d. aft 1821, dtr of John Jenkins & widow of Pattey Truitt (son of William d. 1723) Whittington Bowen, Jr. d. 1816 Wor., m. a different Rachel Jenkins, dtr of Jonathan Jenkins, (son of Whittington d. 1790) Whittington Bowen d. bef 11/28/1820 Wor. "of David," Adm. to Josiah Collins, bonds by Joshua Prideaux and Samuel Tubs; likely the Whittington Bowen who m. (lic) 1/26/1806 Wor. Delilah Selby (no adm. for her) Whittington Bowen d. bef 8/29/1825 Acc., adm. to Thomas Fletcher; Raymond Riley & Spencer Drummond sec. (believe he's son of James of Whittington d. 1790; James Bowen m. Mary Truitt, dtr. of Pattey Truitt & Rachel Jenkins (the one who m. Whittington d. 1790) He's evidently the Whittington Bowen who m. 1815 Wor. Elizabeth Lucas Elizabeth Bowen, widow of Whittington Bowen, m. (lic) 1/31/1831 Acc. Meshach Gaskins (d. bef 6/28/1852); she left a will and named dtr. Sallie M. Bowen (among several Gaskins children) If anyone knows anything further of any of these folks, it would help: Ann Selby dtr of Parker Selby III (d. 1791) m. Zadock Purnell d. aft 1811; don't know when they married, but I've got a Caty (Selby) who m. 1805 Wor. Zadock Purnell. This Caty/Catherine is 'evidently' dtr of Eleanor & Jesse Selby (d. 1788) and it 'appears' Eleanor Selby married a Bowen "Huntington" 5/17/1806 Zadock Purnell, wife Catey Purnell, sold to Eli Bowen rights to Catey from mother Eleanor Bowen - did Eleanor Selby marry a Bowen and which one; anyone have her maiden name - which Zadock Purnell, two possibles: Zadock Purnell b.c. 1770, orphan of Col. Wm. Purnell & Mary Elizabeth Fassitt - know no more about him Zadock Purnell b.c. 1760, d. aft 1811, m. Ann Selby, dtr of Parker Selby III d. 1791 Judy Stell [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Elizabeth .... I have both a copy of the original handwritten document of the 1741 will and a 1926 typewritten transcripton copy. In the typed copy the transcriber (Clara R. Duffel) first typed it as "Senot" and then changed it to a "T", for "Tenot". Comparing the handwritten original to a handwriting example sheet (showing the generally used handwritten forms for the individual letters of the alphabet in the Colonial period) and in comparing the name "Tenot" to decipherable words, beginning with a "T", in other portions of the original document, it appears "T" is the probably the correct call (altho no handwriting expert I). Having said that, Jenet/Janet makes more sense that "Tenot" and Tennant. Whichever it is, beyond the above I've not found a further situation requiring me to make a choice. Unfortunately. Thanks, Joe Lake > Is it possible that there is a spelling error or something, and the name > should have been Jenet/Janet? > > Elizabeth > > > In a message dated 7/16/2010 5:49:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > @ 441PM Janet Hunter wrote..... > > >> Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) > amongst the >> Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and > others have >> given that to one of their sons. >> >> My best, >> >> Janet Hunter > > To the best of my knowledge I have no connection to the Bowen string, of > which the > above paragraph was a part. > > The spouse of Samuel Hopkins, a primary interest of mine, had a spouse > whose given > name was spelled "Tenot" in his 1741 Sussex Co. DE will. The only > connection I have > ever been able to concjecture for that spelling of her given name was > "Tenant". > However I never found a "Tenant" surname connection to support my > conjecture. Maybe > there's a better conjecture :-) > > Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the > Tenants > (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? > > Thanks for any fill in, if available. > > Joe Lake > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
There appears to be FOUR Whittington Bowens. I thought I was confused when I picked at these before and I'm a tad older now and even more confused! However, Liz and I may be getting a bit closer to at least correcting the small percentage of Bowens that were put together before. Whittington Bowen d. 1790 Wor., m. Lavinia Fleming, m. 2nd Rachel Jenkins, d. aft 1821, dtr of John Jenkins & widow of Pattey Truitt (son of William d. 1723) Whittington Bowen, Jr. d. 1816 Wor., m. a different Rachel Jenkins, dtr of Jonathan Jenkins, (son of Whittington d. 1790) Whittington Bowen d. bef 11/28/1820 Wor. "of David," Adm. to Josiah Collins, bonds by Joshua Prideaux and Samuel Tubs; likely the Whittington Bowen who m. (lic) 1/26/1806 Wor. Delilah Selby (no adm. for her) Whittington Bowen d. bef 8/29/1825 Acc., adm. to Thomas Fletcher; Raymond Riley & Spencer Drummond sec. (believe he's son of James of Whittington d. 1790; James Bowen m. Mary Truitt, dtr. of Pattey Truitt & Rachel Jenkins (the one who m. Whittington d. 1790) He's evidently the Whittington Bowen who m. 1815 Wor. Elizabeth Lucas Elizabeth Bowen, widow of Whittington Bowen, m. (lic) 1/31/1831 Acc. Meshach Gaskins (d. bef 6/28/1852); she left a will and named dtr. Sallie M. Bowen (among several Gaskins children) If anyone knows anything further of any of these folks, it would help: Ann Selby dtr of Parker Selby III (d. 1791) m. Zadock Purnell d. aft 1811; don't know when they married, but I've got a Caty (Selby) who m. 1805 Wor. Zadock Purnell. This Caty/Catherine is 'evidently' dtr of Eleanor & Jesse Selby (d. 1788) and it 'appears' Eleanor Selby married a Bowen "Huntington" 5/17/1806 Zadock Purnell, wife Catey Purnell, sold to Eli Bowen rights to Catey from mother Eleanor Bowen - did Eleanor Selby marry a Bowen and which one; anyone have her maiden name - which Zadock Purnell, two possibles: Zadock Purnell b.c. 1770, orphan of Col. Wm. Purnell & Mary Elizabeth Fassitt - know no more about him Zadock Purnell b.c. 1760, d. aft 1811, m. Ann Selby, dtr of Parker Selby III d. 1791 Judy Stell [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
@ 441PM Janet Hunter wrote..... > Such as where does the middle/given name "Tenant" (var spellings) amongst the > Bowens come in? My Seth Whaley and Elizabeth Richards Bowen, and others have > given that to one of their sons. > > My best, > > Janet Hunter To the best of my knowledge I have no connection to the Bowen string, of which the above paragraph was a part. The spouse of Samuel Hopkins, a primary interest of mine, had a spouse whose given name was spelled "Tenot" in his 1741 Sussex Co. DE will. The only connection I have ever been able to concjecture for that spelling of her given name was "Tenant". However I never found a "Tenant" surname connection to support my conjecture. Maybe there's a better conjecture :-) Where DID the name come from in the above reference, and where did the Tenants (surname) live in the period (roughly) c1680-1710? Thanks for any fill in, if available. Joe Lake