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    1. Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example
    2. Jackie Helmke
    3. Is there some place to find the histories of the tracts? I love the names of the tracts. Did they also name their homes? Are there any old maps of Lewes DE? Jackie Helmke [email protected] This message has been screened by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example > In this case, the tax lists are helpful since there is not a single James > Smith in the tax lists for Bogerternorton through 1740 or Baltimore 100 > for that matter.. There is however a likely John Smith in Bogerternorton . > I agree, I am calling this one for JOHN Smith! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:09:16 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example > > Go with Fox Mulder: "Trust no one". > > There are just all sorts of ways in which old mischief can confound us. > > Here's the deal. Not many "original original" wills survive from that > era, meaning the original handwritten submissions actually entered by > the testators. There are some, though, and for Somerset there's a > supply of them in their original boxes at the MSA. I don't know if > this one is among them, and haven't checked. > > So, for the wills across the Province the conventional > source is the Prerogative Court will books, as transcribed by that > court's clerks in Annapolis. These should have been all transcripts of > the original wills as submitted from the counties as part of the > court's estate handling process. These are what you see at the > "Huntington" site, from a filming of these dating from the 1940s. > These are also the volumes originally used by Baldwin and Cotton for > their Calendar of Wills abstracts (not this filming of course, but > evidently from the paper volumes themselves at the then-Hall of > Records). > > In addition, the counties maintained a separate transcription of the > wills of the county. In Somerset, these are now found in the county > clerk > Esme Bayly's series (EB volumes). In some cases the Bayly transcripts > (made in the late 18th > century) were re-dos of even then disintegrating earlier volumes in the > courthouse. Presumbably the original county volumes, like the > Prerogative Court versions, were copied from the "original originals", > too, but because they were separate transcriptions from those made at > Annapolis, one must be aware there could be differences. And when > Bayly went through and re-did them, there's another opportunity for > differences/mistakes to creep in. The Keddie transcripts were done > from the county's EB series. There are similar local transcripts from > Worcester: the "JW" series. > > Baldwiin and Cotton have many known errors. All in all, a pretty good > example of why a finding aid is only a pointer to getting the original, > from which one can draw one's own conclusions. Over the years I have > also found a number of differences between the EB volumes and the > Prerogative Court versions. And some cases in which I'm just glad to > have found an "original original" to break ties or to correct other > transcriptional gaffes. > > Sometimes one must simply consider all the evidence from all sources to > decide what was meant, and that you're facing a clerical error. > > I have found other cases in which the testator's name was in error in > the MD Calendar of Wills. And I have certainly found errors in all > other transcripts, including the "original" PC wills. > > All this generality aside, I see that my tract histories for ISLINGTON, > COWS QUARTERS and CORDS LOT have them in the ownership of John Smith > from the early 1700s, and then bequeathed by James Smith (I probably > used the assertions of the MD Calendar of Wills, I imagine; there is > only so much time in the day to check everything). Unless > there had been some other mechanism by which a James Smith had come by > these, it looks from what you have found to be more likely that John > Smith was the 1739/40 testator. > > So: thanks. Looks like I should correct my files. > > Note also here MD Wills 23:099 (also recorded as Worcester Wills > JW2:006), of carpenter John Smith in 1743, bequeathing these same to > his daughter Elizabeth. He didn't last long after getting these from > his father. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 9:07 am > Subject: [LDR] Look at the original will - example > > > I did not know how to explain the below contradiction in the name of > the husband > of Elizabeth Smith. (Keddie also refers to James Smith). This is an > example of > the reason why we should check the original will whenever possible. > After a > giant struggle with the Huntington site, I managed to find Smith's will > of > 1739-40 below (vol. 22, folio 172). Voila - it said very clearly I > JOHN Smith, > Sr. of Somerset County etc. Of course here's the problem - was this > copy on > the Huntington site also a copy of an original will and were Cotton and > Keddie > looking at an entirely different copy. What a headache. > > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/26/2010 07:23:16
    1. Re: [LDR] huntington collection
    2. ok thanx - been on here, just didnt recognize "huntington" :) and you're correct, can be a pain - a couple times i just picked a date and read thru them :) quite interesting reading :) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 9:40 am Subject: [LDR] huntington collection http://guide.mdsa.net/series.cfm?action=viewSeries&ID=TE1 it is not easy to navigate. You have to know volume and folio and hunt around o find out which microfilm at the huntington collection it is on. It is beyond e to give more detailed instructions as I just muddle through one way or the ther without a plan.....the page numbers are tricky too so that requires an xplanation from someone better able to describe it than me. ----- Original Message ----- rom: [email protected] o: [email protected] ent: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:28:52 -0000 (UTC) ubject: Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example greetings - is this huntington collection online? would you share? thanx - obin -----Original Message----- rom: Lisa Just o: [email protected] ent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 9:18 am ubject: Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example id you get a chance to look at the inventories, accounts and lances associated with the probate at the Huntington Collection? ey might furnish additional clues that can explain the relationships. only had time to look up one account for John Smith in 1741 (Lib , f. 242), executor was John Smith and mentions there was another n Thomas, deceased, and legacies left to William Smith, Sarah ckman alias Smith, Diligence Richards alias Smith, Bridgit Sasield ) alias Smith, Comfort Smith, Charles Smith and the Accountant ohn Smith). n Jul 26, 2010, at 6:07 AM, [email protected] wrote: I did not know how to explain the below contradiction in the name of the husband of Elizabeth Smith. (Keddie also refers to James Smith). This is an example of the reason why we should check the original will whenever possible. After a giant struggle with the Huntington site, I managed to find Smith's will of 1739-40 below (vol. 22, folio 172). Voila - it said very clearly I JOHN Smith, Sr. of Somerset County etc. Of course here's the problem - was this copy on the Huntington site also a copy of an original will and were Cotton and Keddie looking at an entirely different copy. What a headache. Smith, Elizabeth, widow of John,All Hallows Parish, Somerset Co., 19th May, 1742; 10th March, 1742-3; 17th March, 1742-3. To cousin Sarah Patrick, dau.-in-law Sarah Hickman, and granddau. Bridget Hickman, personalty. To daus.-in-law Dillegane Rickard, Bridget Seasill, Tamer Day, Charity Maisey, Anne Bell and Elizabeth Collins, residue of estate. Exs.: Isaac Bell, John Rickard. Test: John Miller, Charles Mooney, Abraham Lynch. 23. 97. I can not understand why it is widow of John when it appears his name was James LOL. Smith, James, Sr.,Somerset Co.,23rd Mar., 1739-40; 27th Apr., 1740. To son John, ex., and hrs., 350 A. “Cow Quarter”, 200 A. “Isleington” 430 A. “Cords Lott”. To daus. Sarah, Bridgett, Diligents and Comfort and sons Charles and William, personalty. To wife Elizabeth, 1/3 estate. Test: Thomas Purkins, Race Clark, Samuel Showell. 22. 172. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** ESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? sit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: tp://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ----------------------------- unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of e message *************************************** UESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? isit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: ttp://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ************************************** UESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? isit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: ttp://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

    07/26/2010 07:15:15
    1. [LDR] Look at the original will - example
    2. I did not know how to explain the below contradiction in the name of the husband of Elizabeth Smith. (Keddie also refers to James Smith). This is an example of the reason why we should check the original will whenever possible. After a giant struggle with the Huntington site, I managed to find Smith's will of 1739-40 below (vol. 22, folio 172). Voila - it said very clearly I JOHN Smith, Sr. of Somerset County etc. Of course here's the problem - was this copy on the Huntington site also a copy of an original will and were Cotton and Keddie looking at an entirely different copy. What a headache. Smith, Elizabeth, widow of John,All Hallows Parish, Somerset Co.,19th May, 1742; 10th March, 1742-3; 17th March, 1742-3. To cousin Sarah Patrick, dau.-in-law Sarah Hickman, and granddau. Bridget Hickman, personalty. To daus.-in-law Dillegane Rickard, Bridget Seasill, Tamer Day, Charity Maisey, Anne Bell and Elizabeth Collins, residue of estate. Exs.: Isaac Bell, John Rickard. Test: John Miller, Charles Mooney, Abraham Lynch. 23. 97. I can not understand why it is widow of John when it appears his name was James LOL. Smith, James, Sr.,Somerset Co.,23rd Mar., 1739-40; 27th Apr., 1740. To son John, ex., and hrs., 350 A. “Cow Quarter”, 200 A. “Isleington” 430 A. “Cords Lott”. To daus. Sarah, Bridgett, Diligents and Comfort and sons Charles and William, personalty. To wife Elizabeth, 1/3 estate. Test: Thomas Purkins, Race Clark, Samuel Showell. 22. 172.

    07/26/2010 07:07:38
    1. Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example
    2. greetings - is this huntington collection online? would you share? thanx - robin -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Just <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 9:18 am Subject: Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example Did you get a chance to look at the inventories, accounts and alances associated with the probate at the Huntington Collection? hey might furnish additional clues that can explain the relationships. I only had time to look up one account for John Smith in 1741 (Lib 8, f. 242), executor was John Smith and mentions there was another on Thomas, deceased, and legacies left to William Smith, Sarah ickman alias Smith, Diligence Richards alias Smith, Bridgit Sasield ?) alias Smith, Comfort Smith, Charles Smith and the Accountant John Smith). n Jul 26, 2010, at 6:07 AM, [email protected] wrote: > I did not know how to explain the below contradiction in the name of the husband of Elizabeth Smith. (Keddie also refers to James Smith). This is an example of the reason why we should check the original will whenever possible. After a giant struggle with the Huntington site, I managed to find Smith's will of 1739-40 below (vol. 22, folio 172). Voila - it said very clearly I JOHN Smith, Sr. of Somerset County etc. Of course here's the problem - was this copy on the Huntington site also a copy of an original will and were Cotton and Keddie looking at an entirely different copy. What a headache. Smith, Elizabeth, widow of John,All Hallows Parish, Somerset Co., 19th May, 1742; 10th March, 1742-3; 17th March, 1742-3. To cousin Sarah Patrick, dau.-in-law Sarah Hickman, and granddau. Bridget Hickman, personalty. To daus.-in-law Dillegane Rickard, Bridget Seasill, Tamer Day, Charity Maisey, Anne Bell and Elizabeth Collins, residue of estate. Exs.: Isaac Bell, John Rickard. Test: John Miller, Charles Mooney, Abraham Lynch. 23. 97. I can not understand why it is widow of John when it appears his name was James LOL. Smith, James, Sr.,Somerset Co.,23rd Mar., 1739-40; 27th Apr., 1740. To son John, ex., and hrs., 350 A. “Cow Quarter”, 200 A. “Isleington” 430 A. “Cords Lott”. To daus. Sarah, Bridgett, Diligents and Comfort and sons Charles and William, personalty. To wife Elizabeth, 1/3 estate. Test: Thomas Purkins, Race Clark, Samuel Showell. 22. 172. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** UESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? isit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: ttp://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

    07/26/2010 06:28:52
    1. Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example
    2. Go with Fox Mulder: "Trust no one". There are just all sorts of ways in which old mischief can confound us. Here's the deal. Not many "original original" wills survive from that era, meaning the original handwritten submissions actually entered by the testators. There are some, though, and for Somerset there's a supply of them in their original boxes at the MSA. I don't know if this one is among them, and haven't checked. So, for the wills across the Province the conventional source is the Prerogative Court will books, as transcribed by that court's clerks in Annapolis. These should have been all transcripts of the original wills as submitted from the counties as part of the court's estate handling process. These are what you see at the "Huntington" site, from a filming of these dating from the 1940s. These are also the volumes originally used by Baldwin and Cotton for their Calendar of Wills abstracts (not this filming of course, but evidently from the paper volumes themselves at the then-Hall of Records). In addition, the counties maintained a separate transcription of the wills of the county. In Somerset, these are now found in the county clerk Esme Bayly's series (EB volumes). In some cases the Bayly transcripts (made in the late 18th century) were re-dos of even then disintegrating earlier volumes in the courthouse. Presumbably the original county volumes, like the Prerogative Court versions, were copied from the "original originals", too, but because they were separate transcriptions from those made at Annapolis, one must be aware there could be differences. And when Bayly went through and re-did them, there's another opportunity for differences/mistakes to creep in. The Keddie transcripts were done from the county's EB series. There are similar local transcripts from Worcester: the "JW" series. Baldwiin and Cotton have many known errors. All in all, a pretty good example of why a finding aid is only a pointer to getting the original, from which one can draw one's own conclusions. Over the years I have also found a number of differences between the EB volumes and the Prerogative Court versions. And some cases in which I'm just glad to have found an "original original" to break ties or to correct other transcriptional gaffes. Sometimes one must simply consider all the evidence from all sources to decide what was meant, and that you're facing a clerical error. I have found other cases in which the testator's name was in error in the MD Calendar of Wills. And I have certainly found errors in all other transcripts, including the "original" PC wills. All this generality aside, I see that my tract histories for ISLINGTON, COWS QUARTERS and CORDS LOT have them in the ownership of John Smith from the early 1700s, and then bequeathed by James Smith (I probably used the assertions of the MD Calendar of Wills, I imagine; there is only so much time in the day to check everything). Unless there had been some other mechanism by which a James Smith had come by these, it looks from what you have found to be more likely that John Smith was the 1739/40 testator. So: thanks. Looks like I should correct my files. Note also here MD Wills 23:099 (also recorded as Worcester Wills JW2:006), of carpenter John Smith in 1743, bequeathing these same to his daughter Elizabeth. He didn't last long after getting these from his father. John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 9:07 am Subject: [LDR] Look at the original will - example I did not know how to explain the below contradiction in the name of the husband of Elizabeth Smith. (Keddie also refers to James Smith). This is an example of the reason why we should check the original will whenever possible. After a giant struggle with the Huntington site, I managed to find Smith's will of 1739-40 below (vol. 22, folio 172). Voila - it said very clearly I JOHN Smith, Sr. of Somerset County etc. Of course here's the problem - was this copy on the Huntington site also a copy of an original will and were Cotton and Keddie looking at an entirely different copy. What a headache.

    07/26/2010 06:09:16
    1. Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example
    2. marjorie adams
    3. Liz and Elizabeth, I was not following the beginning of this thread so you may have mentioned this before. James and John Smith were sons of James Smith d 1692 and married to Merium; his mother was Joyce m John Smith, will Accomack 1977/78. I vote for Elizabeth's idea that perhaps Elizabeth, as widow Smith, m John after his brother James died--not an infrequent happening. {I have done only a little research on Smiths because of connections to Samuel Showell and the names Joyce and Merium, wives of Smiths, that were used in my LONG/LOCKWOOD family in the 1750s.} There was also an Edward Smith will 1687 Som. m Ann Showell will 1688 Som., the sister of Samuel Showell. They had a son Armwell, a name which shows up,first uniquely I think, in the below-mentioned connected families. I have theorized that it was at first a surname in England in the Showell line that was then used as a given name by the Smith, Vigerous, Lockwood and Long families in the Colonies. After Armwell Long who was a locally famous Col in the War of 1812 in Sussex DE, it became somewhat widely used in Sussex. I really do research things other than names! Do you have a connection between James Smith and Edward, or do you have later Smiths in the James or John Smith line? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:07 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I did not know how to explain the below contradiction in the name of the > husband of Elizabeth Smith. <snip> > > I can not understand why it is widow of John when it appears his name was > James LOL. > > Smith, James, Sr.,Somerset Co.,23rd Mar., 1739-40; > 27th Apr., 1740. > To son John, ex., and hrs., 350 A. “Cow Quarter”, 200 A. “Isleington” 430 > A. “Cords Lott”. > To daus. Sarah, Bridgett, Diligents and Comfort and sons Charles and > William, personalty. > To wife Elizabeth, 1/3 estate. > Test: Thomas Purkins, Race Clark, Samuel Showell. > 22. 172. > -- Marjorie "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

    07/26/2010 05:23:40
    1. Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example
    2. Another thought - John and James (separate persons) both had wives named Elizabeth. Elizabeth is referring to daughters-in-law, and James is calling them daughters. "In-law" often referred to step-children. Or, Elizabeth was married to the son John, referred to in the will of James, and meant sisters-in-law? It seems the possibilities could be endless. Elizabeth In a message dated 7/26/2010 9:10:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I did not know how to explain the below contradiction in the name of the husband of Elizabeth Smith. (Keddie also refers to James Smith). This is an example of the reason why we should check the original will whenever possible. After a giant struggle with the Huntington site, I managed to find Smith's will of 1739-40 below (vol. 22, folio 172). Voila - it said very clearly I JOHN Smith, Sr. of Somerset County etc. Of course here's the problem - was this copy on the Huntington site also a copy of an original will and were Cotton and Keddie looking at an entirely different copy. What a headache. Smith, Elizabeth, widow of John,All Hallows Parish, Somerset Co.,19th May, 1742; 10th March, 1742-3; 17th March, 1742-3. To cousin Sarah Patrick, dau.-in-law Sarah Hickman, and granddau. Bridget Hickman, personalty. To daus.-in-law Dillegane Rickard, Bridget Seasill, Tamer Day, Charity Maisey, Anne Bell and Elizabeth Collins, residue of estate. Exs.: Isaac Bell, John Rickard. Test: John Miller, Charles Mooney, Abraham Lynch. 23. 97. I can not understand why it is widow of John when it appears his name was James LOL. Smith, James, Sr.,Somerset Co.,23rd Mar., 1739-40; 27th Apr., 1740. To son John, ex., and hrs., 350 A. “Cow Quarter”, 200 A. “Isleington” 430 A. “Cords Lott”. To daus. Sarah, Bridgett, Diligents and Comfort and sons Charles and William, personalty. To wife Elizabeth, 1/3 estate. Test: Thomas Purkins, Race Clark, Samuel Showell. 22. 172. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/26/2010 04:12:35
    1. Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example
    2. In a message dated 7/26/2010 9:10:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I did not know how to explain the below contradiction in the name of the husband of Elizabeth Smith. (Keddie also refers to James Smith). This is an example of the reason why we should check the original will whenever possible. After a giant struggle with the Huntington site, I managed to find Smith's will of 1739-40 below (vol. 22, folio 172). Voila - it said very clearly I JOHN Smith, Sr. of Somerset County etc. Of course here's the problem - was this copy on the Huntington site also a copy of an original will and were Cotton and Keddie looking at an entirely different copy. What a headache. Smith, Elizabeth, widow of John,All Hallows Parish, Somerset Co.,19th May, 1742; 10th March, 1742-3; 17th March, 1742-3. To cousin Sarah Patrick, dau.-in-law Sarah Hickman, and granddau. Bridget Hickman, personalty. To daus.-in-law Dillegane Rickard, Bridget Seasill, Tamer Day, Charity Maisey, Anne Bell and Elizabeth Collins, residue of estate. Exs.: Isaac Bell, John Rickard. Test: John Miller, Charles Mooney, Abraham Lynch. 23. 97. I can not understand why it is widow of John when it appears his name was James LOL. Smith, James, Sr.,Somerset Co.,23rd Mar., 1739-40; 27th Apr., 1740. To son John, ex., and hrs., 350 A. “Cow Quarter”, 200 A. “Isleington” 430 A. “Cords Lott”. To daus. Sarah, Bridgett, Diligents and Comfort and sons Charles and William, personalty. To wife Elizabeth, 1/3 estate. Test: Thomas Purkins, Race Clark, Samuel Showell. 22. 172. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/26/2010 04:09:03
    1. Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example
    2. I can think of two possibilities, albeit rather dim. One is that neither of them actually wrote the wills and whoever did made an error. The other possibility is that after James died, Elizabeth married John. Are you looking at the original handwritten wills? When I was working with Accomack wills, I found that some were typed copies of the originals, and whoever typed them changed the spelling of several names (based on looking at other records). Or, John's middle name might have been James and he used both intermittently? Elizabeth In a message dated 7/26/2010 9:10:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I did not know how to explain the below contradiction in the name of the husband of Elizabeth Smith. (Keddie also refers to James Smith). This is an example of the reason why we should check the original will whenever possible. After a giant struggle with the Huntington site, I managed to find Smith's will of 1739-40 below (vol. 22, folio 172). Voila - it said very clearly I JOHN Smith, Sr. of Somerset County etc. Of course here's the problem - was this copy on the Huntington site also a copy of an original will and were Cotton and Keddie looking at an entirely different copy. What a headache. Smith, Elizabeth, widow of John,All Hallows Parish, Somerset Co.,19th May, 1742; 10th March, 1742-3; 17th March, 1742-3. To cousin Sarah Patrick, dau.-in-law Sarah Hickman, and granddau. Bridget Hickman, personalty. To daus.-in-law Dillegane Rickard, Bridget Seasill, Tamer Day, Charity Maisey, Anne Bell and Elizabeth Collins, residue of estate. Exs.: Isaac Bell, John Rickard. Test: John Miller, Charles Mooney, Abraham Lynch. 23. 97. I can not understand why it is widow of John when it appears his name was James LOL. Smith, James, Sr.,Somerset Co.,23rd Mar., 1739-40; 27th Apr., 1740. To son John, ex., and hrs., 350 A. “Cow Quarter”, 200 A. “Isleington” 430 A. “Cords Lott”. To daus. Sarah, Bridgett, Diligents and Comfort and sons Charles and William, personalty. To wife Elizabeth, 1/3 estate. Test: Thomas Purkins, Race Clark, Samuel Showell. 22. 172. *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/26/2010 04:08:24
    1. Re: [LDR] Look at the original will - example
    2. Lisa Just
    3. Did you get a chance to look at the inventories, accounts and balances associated with the probate at the Huntington Collection? They might furnish additional clues that can explain the relationships. I only had time to look up one account for John Smith in 1741 (Lib 18, f. 242), executor was John Smith and mentions there was another son Thomas, deceased, and legacies left to William Smith, Sarah Hickman alias Smith, Diligence Richards alias Smith, Bridgit Sasield (?) alias Smith, Comfort Smith, Charles Smith and the Accountant (John Smith). On Jul 26, 2010, at 6:07 AM, [email protected] wrote: > I did not know how to explain the below contradiction in the name > of the husband of Elizabeth Smith. (Keddie also refers to James > Smith). This is an example of the reason why we should check the > original will whenever possible. After a giant struggle with the > Huntington site, I managed to find Smith's will of 1739-40 below > (vol. 22, folio 172). Voila - it said very clearly I JOHN Smith, > Sr. of Somerset County etc. Of course here's the problem - was > this copy on the Huntington site also a copy of an original will > and were Cotton and Keddie looking at an entirely different copy. > What a headache. > > Smith, Elizabeth, widow of John,All Hallows Parish, Somerset Co., > 19th May, 1742; > 10th March, 1742-3; > 17th March, 1742-3. > To cousin Sarah Patrick, dau.-in-law Sarah Hickman, and granddau. > Bridget Hickman, personalty. > To daus.-in-law Dillegane Rickard, Bridget Seasill, Tamer Day, > Charity Maisey, Anne Bell and Elizabeth Collins, residue of estate. > Exs.: Isaac Bell, John Rickard. > Test: John Miller, Charles Mooney, Abraham Lynch. > 23. 97. > I can not understand why it is widow of John when it appears his > name was James LOL. > > Smith, James, Sr.,Somerset Co.,23rd Mar., 1739-40; > 27th Apr., 1740. > To son John, ex., and hrs., 350 A. “Cow Quarter”, 200 A. > “Isleington” 430 A. “Cords Lott”. > To daus. Sarah, Bridgett, Diligents and Comfort and sons Charles > and William, personalty. > To wife Elizabeth, 1/3 estate. > Test: Thomas Purkins, Race Clark, Samuel Showell. > 22. 172. > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOWER- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/26/2010 03:18:57
    1. Re: [LDR] Looking for a Huffington Road in Sussex Co. DE
    2. Jeanne Barkley
    3. Thanks for the information on Huffington Road. I found a great website on the Huffington family which places them in Middleford. Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Burris Kenerly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Looking for a Huffington Road in Sussex Co. DE > You may be able to locate it in the Middleford area. It is next to > Concord, > DE....also could be located in some of the Seaford, DE books. > Regards, > Michelle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeanne Barkley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:59 PM > Subject: [LDR] Looking for a Huffington Road in Sussex Co. DE > > >>I am looking for the location of a Huffington Rd in Sussex Co. DE. It is >>mentioned in the will of Robert Hall, 1843. I believe it would have been >>in or around Concord, DE. >> >> Jeanne Barkley >> >> *************************************** >> QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? >> Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: >> http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? > Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/25/2010 11:03:10
    1. Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821
    2. My " (grand)uncle" Walter Dennis (son of Della Bowen and William Dennis) lived in Newark on or near this Yorkshire and we visited him when I was little. He was the local sheriff early 1900's. I haven't yet figured out where he lived in Newark and I was too little to note details. Everybody else who remembers is dead. There might be one aunt who can remember but as people get older their memories are less accurate so far as I've seen. I was told old the wrong names for the husbands of Walter's sisters for example. I plan to go further in the land records to see what Walter owned but just haven't gotten to it yet. Those Wo Cty land records are bad for the eyes. Uncle Walter owned a fair amount of land but was swindled out of it by his nephew "so I was told". The nephew liked to drink and play bridge! ----- Original Message ----- From: Miller's Choice <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:49:56 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821 Thank you, Liz. The Newark environs is not an area in which I am at all familiar either in geography or the inhabitants. William Furniss must have moved over there because of his wife, as he inherited a portion of Double Purchase from his father, William, which he held on the 1783 tax list and sold in 1791, a year after he bought Yorkshire. Becky *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/25/2010 07:28:00
    1. Re: [LDR] Greer's Tavern
    2. Miller's Choice
    3. Jackie, <Was Greer's Tavern named after, or owned by a Greer?  My Greer line has as the first one in the colonies, a James Greer/Grier.> I have to assume Greer's Tavern was named after or owned by a Greer as well as being so obviously known at the time as to be a reference point in a deed and that's another reason I needed to know where the tract Yorkshire is, which John and Liz were kind to locate near Newark, Worcester County.  I have a Greer line via Sophia Greer who married Lazarus Maddux (d. 1786), so of course was wondering which relative may have had that tavern.  Sophia's grandfather, John Greer, gave a deposition for James Round's boundary commission on Collickmore and Bletchinghurst in 1724 so I have to assume he lived near those tracts, which I did not know until yesterday were in or near Newark.  Thanks again, John Lyon.   John Greer's son, Henry, patented the tract Florida in 1753 which is in the Pocomoke Forest, home of my ancestors for centuries on both sides of Dividing Creek.  It never occurred to me (duh) that the Greers may have been from some other part of Worcester County as I don't have much information on them.  But now that I know John might have been from around Newark, maybe I can figure out the identity of his wife Ursula (d. 1749) who was a widow Midgely.  John Greer's inventory was appraised by Lodowick Fleming, so I had just assumed John lived in his neighborhood.   I think this is why I find family history so enthralling.  I'm always learning something new and it's never "finished."   Where was your James Greer located?   Becky

    07/25/2010 06:21:13
    1. Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821
    2. Jackie Helmke
    3. Was Greer's Tavern named after, or owned by a Greer? My Greer line has as the first one in the colonies, a James Greer/Grier. Jackie Helmke [email protected] This message has been screened by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miller's Choice" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821 Many thanks, John! I never would have guessed it was that far east. Becky ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 8:02:48 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821 -----Original Message----- From: Miller's Choice <[email protected]> Paging John Lyon! More importantly, I also want to know where the tract Yorkshire is. And where was Greer's Tavern? And which direction from Snow Hill? __________ YORKSHIRE's southwestern corner was a little SW of the intersection of U.S. 113 and what seems to be called Langmaid Road, and extended east and north from there, roughly a rectangle canted about 45 deg and sort of aligned with both roads. So basically the east side of Newark. Among others, BLETCHINGHURST lay on its NE and PARTNERSHIP on its west. Greer's Tavern: insufficient data. John *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/25/2010 05:07:30
    1. Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821
    2. here's some more: if if if it is the same Yorkshire! Normal 0 false false false MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} 1840 Yorkshire and Partnership are side by side I think. I believe that the ME Church is in the same location because Isaac Bowen et al sold a pieced of it to the ME church James Bowen of Salathiel and Sally R? Bowen, wife of said James, sells to George M. Purnell? Partnership lying on the north of the county road leading from Newark to ? also along the timber grove belonging to the said George and being part of the land bought by James Wilson of Henry Smack and all that part lying on the north side of said ? which land bought of James Wilson of Henry Smock and the land…that was sold by James Strugis to Mrs Houston and by her sold to the aforesaid James Bowen and he took said Sturgis deed for the same now laid out for 13 ¾ acres $171.00 folio 33 1841-2 Liber GMH5 and this one: Normal 0 false false false MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} 1872This deed made the 10 of May 1872 by Henrietta Clayville, the wife of John Clayville deceased, Edward Clayville and Sally Claywell his wife, Esme IPM Davis and Ellen Davis his wife, Catherine C. Bowen and Julia A. Carvine? being the legal heirs of John Clayville deceased ..for $400 current money, Henrietta Clayville, Edward Clayville and Sallie S. Clayville his wife, Esme PM Davis and Ellen Davis his wife, Catherine Bowen and Julia A.. Carerine? Land in town of Newark part of tract of land called Yorkshire being the same house and lot that the said John Clayville purchased of Whittington Jones and Ann Jones, his wife who purchased the same from the commissioners appointed by the circuit court of Worcester County to value and divide the real estate of James E. Johnson, late of Worcester county deceased. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:47:33 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821 Only thing i can figure out about Yorkshire (if it is the same one that Bowens were connected to) is that it is described as on the road from Newark to Snow Hill: described in this deed: Normal 0 false false false MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} James Bowen of Salathiel buys from James W. L. Sturgis and Charlotte A Sturgis his wife of Worcester County for $450 tract called Yorkshire and Partnership near the village of Newark on the northwest side of the main County road leading from ? to Snow Hill, it being the land that descended to the said James W. L. Sturgis by the death of Littleton Sturgis his father and Jane Sturgis his mother except that deeded to James Tobias? And Stephen Ennis 220 acres total ----- Original Message ----- From: Miller's Choice To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:24:30 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821 Erayl said Selby son of Thomas Purnell & Elizabeth Marshall I can't place this Parker Selby in my Selbys . . . Parker Selby b. abt 1753, d. 1796 son of ? > I have 15 men by the name of Parker Selby in my database, only one of whom is hanging loose (but can't swear I'm correct on all the placements!) and he even has a birthdate, just no parents. 23 July 1776-25 April 1831, buried at All Hallow's Episcopal Church cemetery in Snow Hill; married (lic) Worc 19 Sep 1827 Mary Bell "Polly" (Trehearn) Atkinson. Anyone know who this one is? I think Parker Selby d. 1796 is the son of Matthew Selby. I have Parker Selby (wife Glyperry) as the son of Parker Selby d. 1773 but I'm not entirely satisfied with that placement. Parker Selby (wife Glyperry) mentioned in his will lot of land formerly sold out of a tract called Bleechinghurst by James Rownd to Ephraim Heather [1721], land that lies between tract called Yorkshire to the southern poplar by the county road near Doctor Wilson's fence being the land sold to William Morris but not yet conveyed to him. I want to know who Parker Selby, Jr. is in the following deed: On 18 November 1790 Parker Selby, Jr. sold to William Furniss of Somerset County for £422.5 part of Yorkshire lying eastward of the county road leading from Snow Hill Town to Greer's Tavern beginning at the original bounder of the tract standing on a small tongue of high lands and it also being the second bounder of Bleechinghurst, to the southernmost poplar standing by Dr. Wilson's fence at the county road, to a small gully where formerly stood a bridge, until intersecting the third line of the deed from Robert Cade to Daniel Selby; witnesses William Purnell, Phillip Quinton (Worc N:386). Paging John Lyon! More importantly, I also want to know where the tract Yorkshire is. And where was Greer's Tavern? And which direction from Snow Hill? Who is the Dr. Wilson mentioned in Selby's will and the P. Selby, Jr. deed? This William Furniss died about 1821 in Worcester County. He had married twice, first to Nancy Riggin and secondly to Nancy Dale. He had five children, Mary (m. Handy Hancock), Sarah, Elizabeth, William (m. Elizabeth Timmons) and Charlotte (m. William Blades). I have nothing on the descendants of this branch of the Furniss family. Anyone know if they moved away from Delmarva as did so many families in this time period? Becky ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 3:21:54 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Whittington Bowen The Drummonds and Selbys are my family though the ones you mentioned aren't part of my direct line. I have FIVE Spencer Drummonds in my files: Spencer b. abt 1718 Accomack Co, VA, d. 1759 Accomack Co, VA son of Richard Drummond b. abt 1692, d. 1732; m. Anne UNK Spencer D. b. abt 1752 Accomack Co, VA, d. 1795 son of Spencer Drummond b. abt 1718 (above) and Anne UNK; m. Comfort Stockely, dau. of Nehemiah & Ann Stockley Spencer R. b. 15 Nov 1781 Accomack Co, VA, d. 9 Jun 1864 (probably the Spencer mentioned below) son of Spencer D. Drummond & Comfort Stockley; m. Susanna Elizabeth Fletcher Spencer b. abt 1783 son of Charles & Comfort Drummond (Charles the son of Spencer Drummond b. abt 1718) Spencer b. 23 May 1823, d. 17 Mar 1897 son of Spencer R. Drummond & Susanna Elizabeth Fletcher Thomas Fletcher is probably Thomas b. 1749, d. 1820, son of Henry Fletcher, Sr. and Leah Corbin, and uncle to Susanna Elizabeth (Fletcher) Drummond, wife of Spencer D. (above). Thomas Fletcher married Elisha Drummond, dau of Spencer b. abt 1718 & Anne (above). Thomas Fletcher's sister, Elizabeth b. 1746 married John Riley Parker, son of John Parker IV and Sarah Riley. Zadock Purnell b. abt 1760 m. Ann Selby, dau of Parker & Glyperry Selby son of Thomas Purnell & Elizabeth Marshall I can't place this Parker Selby in my Selbys, but there were earlier Parkers in the Selby family: Parker Selby I b. abt 1680, m. Tabitha Bayly, dau of John & Edith Bayly Parker Selby II b. abt 1705, m. Mary Watts son of Parker & Tabitha Selby Parker Selby b. abt 1753, d. 1796 son of ? In a message dated 7/16/10 8:30:40 PM, Judy Stell writes: > Whittington Bowen d. bef 8/29/1825 Acc., adm. to Thomas Fletcher; Raymond > Riley & Spencer Drummond sec. (believe he's son of James of Whittington d. > 1790; James Bowen m. Mary Truitt, dtr. of Pattey Truitt & Rachel Jenkins > (the one who m. Whittington d. 1790) > He's evidently the Whittington Bowen who m. 1815 Wor. Elizabeth Lucas > Elizabeth Bowen, widow of Whittington Bowen, m. (lic) 1/31/1831 Acc. > Meshach Gaskins (d. bef 6/28/1852); she left a will and named dtr. Sallie M. > Bowen (among several Gaskins children) > > If anyone knows anything further of any of these folks, it would help: > Ann Selby dtr of Parker Selby III (d. 1791) m. Zadock Purnell d. aft 1811; > don't know when they married, but I've got a Caty (Selby) who m. 1805 Wor. > Zadock Purnell. This Caty/Catherine is 'evidently' dtr of Eleanor & Jesse > Selby (d. 1788) and it 'appears' Eleanor Selby married a Bowen > "Huntington" 5/17/1806 Zadock Purnell, wife Catey Purnell, sold to Eli > Bowen rights to Catey from mother Eleanor Bowen > - did Eleanor Selby marry a Bowen and which one; anyone have her maiden > name > - which Zadock Purnell, two possibles: > Zadock Purnell b.c. 1770, orphan of Col. Wm. Purnell & Mary Elizabeth > Fassitt - know no more about him > > Zadock Purnell b.c. 1760, d. aft 1811, m. Ann Selby, dtr of Parker Selby > III d. 1791 > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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    07/24/2010 05:52:05
    1. Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821
    2. Miller's Choice
    3. Thank you, Liz.  The Newark environs is not an area in which I am at all familiar either in geography or the inhabitants.  William Furniss must have moved over there because of his wife, as he inherited a portion of Double Purchase from his father, William, which he held on the 1783 tax list and sold in 1791, a year after he bought Yorkshire.  Becky

    07/24/2010 05:49:56
    1. Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821
    2. Only thing i can figure out about Yorkshire (if it is the same one that Bowens were connected to) is that it is described as on the road from Newark to Snow Hill: described in this deed: Normal 0 false false false MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} James Bowen of Salathiel buys from James W. L. Sturgis and Charlotte A Sturgis his wife of Worcester County for $450 tract called Yorkshire and Partnership near the village of Newark on the northwest side of the main County road leading from ? to Snow Hill, it being the land that descended to the said James W. L. Sturgis by the death of Littleton Sturgis his father and Jane Sturgis his mother except that deeded to James Tobias? And Stephen Ennis 220 acres total ----- Original Message ----- From: Miller's Choice <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:24:30 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821 Erayl said Selby son of Thomas Purnell & Elizabeth Marshall I can't place this Parker Selby in my Selbys . . . Parker Selby b. abt 1753, d. 1796 son of ? > I have 15 men by the name of Parker Selby in my database, only one of whom is hanging loose (but can't swear I'm correct on all the placements!) and he even has a birthdate, just no parents. 23 July 1776-25 April 1831, buried at All Hallow's Episcopal Church cemetery in Snow Hill; married (lic) Worc 19 Sep 1827 Mary Bell "Polly" (Trehearn) Atkinson. Anyone know who this one is? I think Parker Selby d. 1796 is the son of Matthew Selby. I have Parker Selby (wife Glyperry) as the son of Parker Selby d. 1773 but I'm not entirely satisfied with that placement. Parker Selby (wife Glyperry) mentioned in his will lot of land formerly sold out of a tract called Bleechinghurst by James Rownd to Ephraim Heather [1721], land that lies between tract called Yorkshire to the southern poplar by the county road near Doctor Wilson's fence being the land sold to William Morris but not yet conveyed to him. I want to know who Parker Selby, Jr. is in the following deed: On 18 November 1790 Parker Selby, Jr. sold to William Furniss of Somerset County for £422.5 part of Yorkshire lying eastward of the county road leading from Snow Hill Town to Greer's Tavern beginning at the original bounder of the tract standing on a small tongue of high lands and it also being the second bounder of Bleechinghurst, to the southernmost poplar standing by Dr. Wilson's fence at the county road, to a small gully where formerly stood a bridge, until intersecting the third line of the deed from Robert Cade to Daniel Selby; witnesses William Purnell, Phillip Quinton (Worc N:386). Paging John Lyon! More importantly, I also want to know where the tract Yorkshire is. And where was Greer's Tavern? And which direction from Snow Hill? Who is the Dr. Wilson mentioned in Selby's will and the P. Selby, Jr. deed? This William Furniss died about 1821 in Worcester County. He had married twice, first to Nancy Riggin and secondly to Nancy Dale. He had five children, Mary (m. Handy Hancock), Sarah, Elizabeth, William (m. Elizabeth Timmons) and Charlotte (m. William Blades). I have nothing on the descendants of this branch of the Furniss family. Anyone know if they moved away from Delmarva as did so many families in this time period? Becky ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 3:21:54 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Whittington Bowen The Drummonds and Selbys are my family though the ones you mentioned aren't part of my direct line. I have FIVE Spencer Drummonds in my files: Spencer b. abt 1718 Accomack Co, VA, d. 1759 Accomack Co, VA son of Richard Drummond b. abt 1692, d. 1732; m. Anne UNK Spencer D. b. abt 1752 Accomack Co, VA, d. 1795 son of Spencer Drummond b. abt 1718 (above) and Anne UNK; m. Comfort Stockely, dau. of Nehemiah & Ann Stockley Spencer R. b. 15 Nov 1781 Accomack Co, VA, d. 9 Jun 1864 (probably the Spencer mentioned below) son of Spencer D. Drummond & Comfort Stockley; m. Susanna Elizabeth Fletcher Spencer b. abt 1783 son of Charles & Comfort Drummond (Charles the son of Spencer Drummond b. abt 1718) Spencer b. 23 May 1823, d. 17 Mar 1897 son of Spencer R. Drummond & Susanna Elizabeth Fletcher Thomas Fletcher is probably Thomas b. 1749, d. 1820, son of Henry Fletcher, Sr. and Leah Corbin, and uncle to Susanna Elizabeth (Fletcher) Drummond, wife of Spencer D. (above). Thomas Fletcher married Elisha Drummond, dau of Spencer b. abt 1718 & Anne (above). Thomas Fletcher's sister, Elizabeth b. 1746 married John Riley Parker, son of John Parker IV and Sarah Riley. Zadock Purnell b. abt 1760 m. Ann Selby, dau of Parker & Glyperry Selby son of Thomas Purnell & Elizabeth Marshall I can't place this Parker Selby in my Selbys, but there were earlier Parkers in the Selby family: Parker Selby I b. abt 1680, m. Tabitha Bayly, dau of John & Edith Bayly Parker Selby II b. abt 1705, m. Mary Watts son of Parker & Tabitha Selby Parker Selby b. abt 1753, d. 1796 son of ? In a message dated 7/16/10 8:30:40 PM, Judy Stell writes: > Whittington Bowen d. bef 8/29/1825 Acc., adm. to Thomas Fletcher; Raymond > Riley & Spencer Drummond sec. (believe he's son of James of Whittington d. > 1790; James Bowen m. Mary Truitt, dtr. of Pattey Truitt & Rachel Jenkins > (the one who m. Whittington d. 1790) > He's evidently the Whittington Bowen who m. 1815 Wor. Elizabeth Lucas > Elizabeth Bowen, widow of Whittington Bowen, m. (lic) 1/31/1831 Acc. > Meshach Gaskins (d. bef 6/28/1852); she left a will and named dtr. Sallie M. > Bowen (among several Gaskins children) > > If anyone knows anything further of any of these folks, it would help: > Ann Selby dtr of Parker Selby III (d. 1791) m. Zadock Purnell d. aft 1811; > don't know when they married, but I've got a Caty (Selby) who m. 1805 Wor. > Zadock Purnell. This Caty/Catherine is 'evidently' dtr of Eleanor & Jesse > Selby (d. 1788) and it 'appears' Eleanor Selby married a Bowen > "Huntington" 5/17/1806 Zadock Purnell, wife Catey Purnell, sold to Eli > Bowen rights to Catey from mother Eleanor Bowen > - did Eleanor Selby marry a Bowen and which one; anyone have her maiden > name > - which Zadock Purnell, two possibles: > Zadock Purnell b.c. 1770, orphan of Col. Wm. Purnell & Mary Elizabeth > Fassitt - know no more about him > > Zadock Purnell b.c. 1760, d. aft 1811, m. Ann Selby, dtr of Parker Selby > III d. 1791 > *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? 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    07/24/2010 05:47:33
    1. Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821
    2. Miller's Choice
    3. Many thanks, John!  I never would have guessed it was that far east. Becky ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 8:02:48 PM Subject: Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821 -----Original Message----- From: Miller's Choice <[email protected]>   Paging John Lyon!  More importantly, I also want to know where the tract Yorkshire is.  And where was Greer's Tavern?  And which direction from Snow Hill?  __________ YORKSHIRE's southwestern corner was a little SW of the intersection of U.S. 113 and what seems to be called Langmaid Road, and extended east and north from there, roughly a rectangle canted about 45 deg and sort of aligned with both roads.  So basically the east side of Newark. Among others, BLETCHINGHURST lay on its NE and PARTNERSHIP on its west. Greer's Tavern: insufficient data. John   *************************************** QUESTIONS about POSTING GUIDELINES, SUBSCRIBING or UNSUBSCRIBING? Visit The Lower DelMarVa Roots Mailing List FAQ: http://www.tyaskin.com/handley/ldrfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/24/2010 03:48:47
    1. Re: [LDR] Parker Selby/Yorkshire/Wm Furniss d. c1821
    2. -----Original Message----- From: Miller's Choice <[email protected]>   Paging John Lyon!  More importantly, I also want to know where the tract Yorkshire is.  And where was Greer's Tavern?  And which direction from Snow Hill?  __________ YORKSHIRE's southwestern corner was a little SW of the intersection of U.S. 113 and what seems to be called Langmaid Road, and extended east and north from there, roughly a rectangle canted about 45 deg and sort of aligned with both roads. So basically the east side of Newark. Among others, BLETCHINGHURST lay on its NE and PARTNERSHIP on its west. Greer's Tavern: insufficient data. John  

    07/24/2010 02:02:48
    1. Re: [LDR] Whittington Bowen
    2. The Drummonds and Selbys are my family though the ones you mentioned aren't part of my direct line. I have FIVE Spencer Drummonds in my files: Spencer b. abt 1718 Accomack Co, VA, d. 1759 Accomack Co, VA son of Richard Drummond b. abt 1692, d. 1732; m. Anne UNK Spencer D. b. abt 1752 Accomack Co, VA, d. 1795 son of Spencer Drummond b. abt 1718 (above) and Anne UNK; m. Comfort Stockely, dau. of Nehemiah & Ann Stockley Spencer R. b. 15 Nov 1781 Accomack Co, VA, d. 9 Jun 1864 (probably the Spencer mentioned below) son of Spencer D. Drummond & Comfort Stockley; m. Susanna Elizabeth Fletcher Spencer b. abt 1783 son of Charles & Comfort Drummond (Charles the son of Spencer Drummond b. abt 1718) Spencer b. 23 May 1823, d. 17 Mar 1897 son of Spencer R. Drummond & Susanna Elizabeth Fletcher Thomas Fletcher is probably Thomas b. 1749, d. 1820, son of Henry Fletcher, Sr. and Leah Corbin, and uncle to Susanna Elizabeth (Fletcher) Drummond, wife of Spencer D. (above). Thomas Fletcher married Elisha Drummond, dau of Spencer b. abt 1718 & Anne (above). Thomas Fletcher's sister, Elizabeth b. 1746 married John Riley Parker, son of John Parker IV and Sarah Riley. Zadock Purnell b. abt 1760 m. Ann Selby, dau of Parker & Glyperry Selby son of Thomas Purnell & Elizabeth Marshall I can't place this Parker Selby in my Selbys, but there were earlier Parkers in the Selby family: Parker Selby I b. abt 1680, m. Tabitha Bayly, dau of John & Edith Bayly Parker Selby II b. abt 1705, m. Mary Watts son of Parker & Tabitha Selby Parker Selby b. abt 1753, d. 1796 son of ? In a message dated 7/16/10 8:30:40 PM, Judy Stell writes: > Whittington Bowen d. bef 8/29/1825 Acc., adm. to Thomas Fletcher; Raymond > Riley & Spencer Drummond sec. (believe he's son of James of Whittington d. > 1790; James Bowen m. Mary Truitt, dtr. of Pattey Truitt & Rachel Jenkins > (the one who m. Whittington d. 1790) > He's evidently the Whittington Bowen who m. 1815 Wor. Elizabeth Lucas > Elizabeth Bowen, widow of Whittington Bowen, m. (lic) 1/31/1831 Acc. > Meshach Gaskins (d. bef 6/28/1852); she left a will and named dtr. Sallie M. > Bowen (among several Gaskins children) > > If anyone knows anything further of any of these folks, it would help: > Ann Selby dtr of Parker Selby III (d. 1791) m. Zadock Purnell d. aft 1811; > don't know when they married, but I've got a Caty (Selby) who m. 1805 Wor. > Zadock Purnell. This Caty/Catherine is 'evidently' dtr of Eleanor & Jesse > Selby (d. 1788) and it 'appears' Eleanor Selby married a Bowen > "Huntington" 5/17/1806 Zadock Purnell, wife Catey Purnell, sold to Eli > Bowen rights to Catey from mother Eleanor Bowen > - did Eleanor Selby marry a Bowen and which one; anyone have her maiden > name > - which Zadock Purnell, two possibles: > Zadock Purnell b.c. 1770, orphan of Col. Wm. Purnell & Mary Elizabeth > Fassitt - know no more about him > > Zadock Purnell b.c. 1760, d. aft 1811, m. Ann Selby, dtr of Parker Selby > III d. 1791 >

    07/24/2010 09:21:54