Glad Helen came to the rescue on the census! Looking good! The index presumeably doesn't give the occupation which might confirm if you have the right family. The certificate will also of course give additional info. and well worth obtaining if noone else has it - which is very likely. You may still need to check surrounding parishes to find baptisms of other siblings - and indeed Thomas' baptism. The registration district of Hartley Wintney of course contains several parishes. I note that we don't have any Thomas Lovelock baptised abt 1816 in Crondall. The nearest is 1820. That might still be him since ages in census are often a few years out. Checked the Hartley Wintney burials. This looks like Mary Ann wife of Thomas that Helen found in the 1851 census: 1913 Feb 8 Mary Ann Lovelock 85 H. Wintney Best wishes Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin P Borrott-Maloney [mailto:colinbm@bigpond.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:02 PM > To: Robert Sterry(LOVELOCK) > Subject: Fw: Thomas Lovelock of Hartley Wintney > > > Hi Robert > Thanks for your interest. > I received this from Helen & this is my reply. > Hot on the trail ! > Regards > Col > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin P Borrott-Maloney" <colinbm@bigpond.com> > To: "Helen Norton" <nortonH@msn.com.au> > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:10 PM > Subject: Re: Thomas Lovelock of Hartley Wintney > > > > Hi Helen > > Thanks for your help. > > I have found a birth for a Thomas LOVELOCK, 4th qtr 1852, > > Hartley Wintney, vol 2c, 129 (or 127). > > So I will post this on the list to see if someone else has this in their > > family or if not I will order it. > > Thanks for the 1851 reference, I wouldn't have been able to find this, > > without help. > > It certainly looks right ! > > Regards > > Col > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Helen Norton" <nortonH@msn.com.au> > > To: "Colin P Borrott-Maloney" <colinbm@bigpond.com> > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:26 PM > > Subject: Re: Thomas Lovelock of Hartley Wintney > > > > > > > The 1851 census for Hartley Witney has > > > Thomas Lovelock, age 35, born Crondall > > > Mary Ann, aged 24, born Hartley Witney > > > Mary, age 1, born Hartley Witney > > > > > > This is from an index only, but all are on the same reference number > > > HO/107/1680, page no 274, so may be your family. > > > > > > Rgds, Helen > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > Thomas Lovelock, Mallster (brewer) b. ? m. ? d. ? > > > > > > > > Thomas Lovelock, Great Western Railway Porter, Reading > > > > b. c1851-1852, Hartley Wintney, HAMPS > > > > m. 23 AUG 1874, Tilehurst, BERKS, Maria Jane BARKER > > > > d. 3 SEP 1928, Reading, BERKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >