Back again ....... In some off-list correspondence I have speculated with Sian as to where other records on Frederick John might be found. There is no parish of Chelworth, and looking at the map I would guess that if he was baptised it would either be in Crudwell or Oaksey. We have no data on the Website from either parish. HOWEVER, .... some recent perusing of the 1881 Census data courtesy of the LDS turned up the following two records: Source Information: Dwelling The Street Census Place Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Family History Library Film 1341488 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2025 / 29 Page Number 7 Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation John LOVELOCK Head M Male 50 Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Carpenter Mary A. LOVELOCK Wife M Female 53 Hankerton, Wiltshire, England and this one: Source Information: Dwelling Earls Corner Census Place Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Family History Library Film 1341488 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2025 / 30 Page Number 9 Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Ann RICKETTS Head W Female 81 Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Mark RICKETTS Son U Male 40 Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Agl Labourer George LOVELOCK Visitor U Male 62 Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Carpenter I do not believe we generally knew of these Lovelocks, although the information will not be new to you all I expect. After my last visit to the Trowbridge office I certainly have no intention of returning there this week, but anyone braver than me, or with alternative access to records might like to volunteer to do a search of Oaksey and Crudwell? Regards Graham In a Yate as hot and muggy as anywhere in the UK I suspect. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sian davies" <c.j.davies@telco4u.net> To: <LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:24 PM Subject: Frederick John Lovelock b Chelworth, Malmesbury > Many thanks to all who have been helping me find the birthplace of Frederick John. I now have his birth certificate and he was born in Chelworth. Registration District Malmesbury. > Whilst I was in hospital I had an email from Paul asking if Frederick might be linked to his ancestors from Shipton Mallet. As my son deleted the email before I got home I have been unable to reply. If you would get in touch again Paul I can email you. You must be thinking me very rude! > Graham who has been so helpful thinks this maybe a new line. Frederick's parents were James Lovelock and Jane Bruid or possibly Brerid, the middle bit is a bit difficult to read in the copper plate writing, but it is definitely Br id and he was born 20th August 1870. > > I have booked The Bear and am looking forward to meeting more of the family next year. > > Sincerely > > Sian > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >