Many thanks Mike and Alison for your contribution. I have forwarded a copy to James Lovelock in Cornwall. I am sure he will be delighted to discover the Lovelock Listers have traced his lineage back to 1780. Best Wishes John Lovelock Hedgerley Buckinghamshire -----Original Message----- From: Michael E Turner [mailto:M.E.Turner@hull.ac.uk] Sent: 10 July 2003 10:20 To: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Lovelocks in Cornwall On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:33:40 +0200 James Loveluck <james.loveluck@numericable.fr> wrote: Sorry to take so long to respond to this correspondence trail (and this is the third time I have tried this morning to make a response since my local system is playing up - so apologies for any multiple posting that gets through). I was alerted to the reference to Winchfield in Hampshire and so my wife Alison extracted the following from her files (most, if not all of which should be on the website). Mike and Alison Turner DETAILS AS FOLLOWS Re James Lovelock born 1832 in Winchfield, son of Richard and Hannah Lovelock. It seems likely he is the James you are looking for and the census age is wrong. There are no other James Lovelocks baptised in Winchfield. James's father, Richard, was baptised in Crondall, Hampshire on 7th July 1791 together with his brother Daniel. They were the sons of James Lovelock and Hannah Newman (marr.Jun 13 1780 Crondall) Richard married Hannah Hounson in Crondall on Apr 10 1819. Both Richard and Daniel ended up in Winchfield. 1841 Census Winchfield Richard Lovelock 45 agr. lab Hannah Lovelock 40 Susan Lovelock 20 Samuel Lovelock 15 William Lovelock 13 David Lovelock 10 Mary Ann Lovelock 4 Selina Lovelock 2 There's also a James aged 8 in Winchfield, not with his family. (this part of the census was almost illegible, so I didn't record who he was living with.) 1851 census Winchfield Richard Loblock 60 agr. lab. b. Crondall Anna Loblock 54 b. Binsted James Loblock 18 b. Winchfield Mary Ann Loblock 14 b. Winchfield Selina Loblock 11 b. Winchfield 1861 Census Winchfield Richard Lovelock wid. 68 lab Hannah Lovelock was buried in Winchfield on Oct 1 1853 aged 55 Richard Lovelock was buried on Nov 1 1870 aged 78 Re marriage of James Lovelock there is a marriage in Basingstoke 1859 Dec quarter. This seems likely as his wife Rachael (1881 census) was born in Hook near Basingstoke and the date fits well with their children's ages. ********************************************************************* > Hello John, > > I think I found the family in the 1881 census, living at Kiln House, > Charlton, Berks. > > The date of birth of Tom A(rthur) Lovelock is given as 1874, which is > close to what James stated. There is also a younger brother Frederick, > who must be "uncle Fred". The father's occupation is given as "brick > burner" and the eldest son as "brick maker". It seems that the parents > (James' grandparents) were from Hampshire. See details below. > > I looked in the "Lovelocks in Hampshire" file for the baptism of James > (grandfather) at WInchfield. There is a baptism as follows: > > 1832 Jul 1 James s. of Richard and Hannah Lovelock > > but this is about 7 years out if the census data is anything like > correct. I didn't find a record for the marriage either. > > Regards, > > James > > ------------- > > Dwelling: Kiln House > Census Place: Charlton, Berkshire, England > Source: FHL Film 1341314 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1291 Folio > 47 Page 11 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > James LOVELOCK M 42 M Winchfield, Hampshire, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Brick Burner > Rachael LOVELOCK M 41 F Hook, Hampshire, England > Rel: Wife > William LOVELOCK U 21 M Noteley Squires, Hampshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Brick Maker > Francis E. LOVELOCK U 12 M East Challow, Berkshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Labourer > Selina G. LOVELOCK U 10 F East Challow, Berkshire, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Tom A. LOVELOCK U 7 M Charlton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Edith F. LOVELOCK U 6 F Charlton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Frederick C. LOVELOCK 3 M Charlton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Son > John MARTIN U 33 M Drayton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Brick Maker > James HAWKINS U 24 M West Ilsley, Berkshire, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Labourer And Berks Militiaman > > > John Lovelock wrote: > > > Hi James > > > > > > > > James Lovelock has advised me that his father's name is Tom ( Thomas) > > Arthur. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately he hasn't provided the place of birth but his letter > > indicates that this event took place at Farnborough near Wantage in > > 1872 and he was one of 13 children. > > > > > > > > Can any Listers find him on the 1881 Census? > > > > > > > > I also asked James if he knew anything about the Lovelocks of Polperro > > in South East Cornwall. Whilst on holiday in the area a couple of > > years ago I noticed several shops in the village run by Lovelocks and > > was told by another shopkeeper that there was quite a Colony of > > Lovelocks! > > > > > > > > James said that he was aware of this enterprising branch of the family > > but did not know anyone there. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any knowledge of this branch and when they moved to > > the area? > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Loveluck [mailto:james.loveluck@numericable.fr] > > Sent: 23 June 2003 20:17 > > To: John Lovelock > > Cc: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: James Lovelock > > > > > > > > Hello John, > > > > Well this is certainly an interesting connection - your announcement > > in the Newbury News is turning out to be very fruitful! > > > > Its unfortunate that James Lovelock doesn't give quite enough > > information to track down his Lovelock branch, or at least not in the > > letter which you forwarded. It would be nice to have a least the first > > name of his father, and perferably his place of birth. > > > > In fact, I have some credit left at 1837online, so I did a lookup for > > Lovelock births in 1919, and found the corresponding record in the 3rd > > quarter, for Hitchin RD, vol. 3a, page 1145. > > > > Perhaps you could suggest to James that he take a look at the Lovelock > > Web site, and that he browse around to see if he can find any likely > > ancestors! I'd be more than happy to help him out! > > > > John Lovelock wrote: > > > >Dear James > > > > > > > >I received a fascinating letter from James Lovelock (from his home in > > > >Cornwall) on Friday and e mailed him requesting his permission to > > > >circulate the contents of his letter to The List. James has since given > > > >me permission to share his genealogy and I therefore reproduce his > > > >letter in full below: > > > > > > > >" Dear John Lovelock 17 June > > > >2003 > > > > > > > >A friend who lives in Newbury passed on your announcement in the Newbury > > > >News about a reunion of the Lovelock families. Although I am not > > > >personally much interested in genealogy I thought you might like the few > > > >details of my family history for your data base. > > > > > > > >My father's family came from the Latin Down area on the hills above > > > >Wantage, nearest village Farnborough.Grandfather worked at the > > > >Brickworks owned by the Lousley family. Father, born 1872 died 1956, was > > > >one of 13 children. He moved to Brixton London in his teen age. I was > > > >born at Letchworth Garden City, my mother's home, in 1919. > > > > > > > >As a child I remember an Uncle Fred Lovelock, who also lived in Brixton, > > > >and an aunt Lilly who lived in Didcot and was married to a Herman. There > > > >were also cousins living in Portsmouth. My father's sister Clara lived > > > >close by and she was married to Frank Guichard. > > > > > > > >The only other point of interest is that there is some evidence of Inuit > > > >(Baffin Island) ancestry in my father's family. In my case the Blood > > > >Group Laboratory of Boston USA were prepared to say the odds were over a > > > >million to one that my ancestry included an Inuit. > > > > > > > >I hope that this information is helpful, if not just transfer it to the > > > >bin. > > > > > > > >With all best wishes > > > > > > > >>From James Lovelock CH CBE CChem FRS " > > > > > > > > > > > >Best Wishes > > > > > > > >John Lovelock > > > >Hedgerley > > > >Buckinghamshire > > > >England > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: James Loveluck [mailto:james.loveluck@numericable.fr] > > > >Sent: 06 January 2003 17:24 > > > >To: John Lovelock > > > >Cc: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Subject: Re: New Year Honours > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks to John and Michael for keeping a sharp eye on the New Year > > > >Honours! Even though James E. Lovelock is well known, in family history > > > >terms he remains a bit of a mystery. Does anyone know of a connection > > > >with other Lovelock branches? > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > >James > > > > > > > >John Lovelock wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Happy New Year Lovelock Listers. > >> > >> > >> > >>Spotted in The Times Tuesday 31st December 2002: > >> > >> > >> > >>ORDER OF THE COMPANIONS OF HONOUR > >> > >> > >> > >>James Ephraim Lovelock > >> > >> > >> > >>Scientist, inventor and author, services to global environmental > >> > >> > >> > >science. > > > > > > > >>Best Wishes > >> > >> > >> > >>John Lovelock > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > >> > >>Lovelock family history Web pages: > >> > >>http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/> > >> > >> > >> > >>============================== > >> > >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >> > >> > >> > >records, go to: > > > > > > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > > > >Lovelock family history Web pages: > > > >http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/> > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ---------------------------------------- Michael E Turner Professor of Economic History Department of History University of Hull Cottingham Road Hull HU6 7RX Tel: (44)(0) 1482 465913 Fax: (44)(0) 1482 466126 Web: http://www.hull.ac.uk/history/homepage.html Email: M.E.Turner@hull.ac.uk ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237