Hello all, Graham may have already mentioned it, but you missed at least one John Lovelock from your list - the progenitor of Fragment 10 (Graham's maternal line - I think there may be other list members connected to this line; please shout out!) John Lovelock b Abt. 1740, mar Elizabeth Cruse, Tidcombe Wilts 18 May 1761. Here is what I have in my database for the descendent tree for Elizabeth L and Edwin Waters (Ken Gigg's branch): 1-Edwin Waters b. 19 Oct 1846, Little Bedwyn, Wiltshire, England, d. 22 Dec 1915, Chisbury, Wilts., England +Elizabeth Lovelock b. 21 Sep 1846, Pewsey, Wiltshire, England, bap. 19 Oct 1846, Savernake, Wilts., England, m.: 11 Dec 1876, Savernake, Wilts., England, par. David Lovelock and Martha Yeates |----2-William Waters b. Abt 1878, Little Bedwyn, Wiltshire, England |----2-John Waters b. Abt 1880, Little Bedwyn, Wiltshire, England |----2-Martha Waters b. 10 Jun 1885, Little Bedwyn, Wiltshire, England, d. 4 |---- Sep 1945, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England +Albert Edward Gigg b. 26 Dec 1879, Great Bedwyn, Wiltshire, England, d. 20 Jun 1953, Little Bedwyn, Wiltshire, England, m.: 30 May 1905, Little Bedwyn, Wiltshire, England, par. Henry William Gigg and Mary Johnson |----3-Henry Edwin Gigg b. 19 Jan 1908, Great Bedwyn, Wiltshire, England, |---- d. 19 Jul 1983, Southampton, Hants., England +Irene Kate Dunn , par. William Charles Dunn and Kate Hicks |----4-Kenneth Arthur Gigg +Elsie May Barrett And here is the family of Henry Hillier and Elizabeth L: 1-Henry Hillier b. Abt 1845 +Elizabeth Lovelock b. 8 Jun 1848, District Of Great Bedwyn, Sub-District Of Hungerford, bap. 14 Jul 1848, East Grafton, Wiltshire, England, d. 10 Jan 1915, m.: 1 Feb 1868, East Grafton, Wiltshire, England, par. Daniel Lovelock and Ann Chouls |----2-William Albert Hillier bap. 29 May 1870, Burbage, Wiltshire, England, d. |---- 10 Dec 1878 |----2-Kate Hillier bap. 17 Oct 1875, Burbage, Wiltshire, England, d. 29 May |---- 1876 |----2-Flora Kate Hillier b. 6 Apr 1877, bap. 14 Oct 1877, Burbage, Wiltshire, |---- England, d. 7 Jan 1878 |----2-Mary Maria Hillier bap. 13 Apr 1879, Burbage, Wiltshire, England |----2-Florence K. Hillier bap. 5 Jun 1881, Burbage, Wiltshire, England |----2-Lily Hillier b. 12 Nov 1885, Pewsey, Wiltshire, England, d. 10 Sep 1914 |----2-Dora E. Hillier bap. 13 Oct 1889, Burbage, Wiltshire, England Regards, James Robert Sterry wrote: >Well guys, you've certainly been making the dust fly over the past couple of >weeks. I must admit I'm thoroughly enjoying the discussion. However, I only >found time today to actually catch up with it properly. You're certainly >clearing up a few queries. I wish I could add something to the debate but I >believe you've take it about as far as it will stretch with the available >data. > >I had a bit of a play around with those John Lovelocks - why is it always >John Lovelocks that seem to cause all the problems [sorry John ;-) ] - born >about 1840. But there were too many to sort them out - and many of them >haven't even been entered yet into the Lieflock tree yet! I went looking for >the possible baptisms of the John Lovelock who married Elizabeth Bromham at >Wootton Rivers in 1765. > >Possibilities included: >1743 Ethilhampton >1739 Ramsbury [now that one's familiar! ;-) ] >1736 Tidcombe X2 >1740 Wootton Rivers (the most likely I guess) >1744 Wroughton >1739 Easton Royal > >In fact the only one of these I have entered into the Lieflock tree is the >one for Easton Royal! So much work still to do! > >In the meantime, I wonder if I could get from either of you - when you >finally agree on it - all the offspring of Henry Hillier and Elizabeth >Lovelock and the line of descent of Ken Gigg from, I believe, Elizabeth >Lovelock and Edwin Waters. > >Keep up the great work gentlemen. Looking forward to your next instalment. > >Robert > > >