Thanks to both Richard and Jack for providing feedback on this possible connection - if it's correct then it will take your tree back to the marriage of Abraham Lovelock and Priscilla Geenaway at Wroughton in 1689! Thanks to Richard for clearing up the confusion about the death date of 22 Apr 1846 being that of Jane and not Daniel (in fact, looking at the fragment again this seems fairly clear - I was just being stupid). I have a CD of the Glamorgan 1841 census but I didn't find the family of Daniel and Jane. However, this is perhaps not surprising since, according to your fragment, Mary and Daniel were baptised at Newport, which is in Monmouthshire, for which I don't have access to the 1841 census data. Concerning Jack's point about the identification of the parents of Daniel, it's true that John Lovelock and Sarah Batt had a son Daniel bap. 11 Jul 1790 at Milton Lilbourne. However, there is a Milton Lilbourne burial for Daniel Lovelock age 78 on 2 Dec 1866, which fits pretty well, so I think the identification with Daniel, son of Thomas L and Jane Bratfield, bap 3 Mar 1793 at Compton Bassett, is more likely. Also Chris Knight informed us that the 1851 census data for Brewood, Wolverhampton, gave Daniel's place of birth as Compton Bassett. Regards to all, James Richard Dowd wrote: >Hi Chris, James, Robert and all, > >Have been watching the Daniel Lovelock developments over the last couple of days with great interest. > >The connection between the Daniel ( 58 y.o. - gardener born Compton Basset) in the 1851 census at Wolverhampton and the Daniel born to Thomas Lovelock and Jane Bratfield, baptised 3rd March 1793 seem indisputable. Great work. > >Now to clear up a few points. The death date of 22 Apr 1846 on the "Nevada Lovelock Line" fragment I supplied a few years ago (much of the information supplied to me by Gwen Eastment) was relating to Jane the wife of Daniel, not Daniel.I have a copy of her death certificate which states:- > >Registration District Wolverhampton, Sub-district of Tettenhall in the county of Stafford > >22nd April 1846 Tettenhall / Jane Lovelock / female / 56 years / wife of Daniel Lovelock Gardener / Diseased Lungs, Dropsy Ascites? / Daniel Lovelock present at the death. > >As to what was the maiden name of Daniels wife I am not sure. When I first compiled the tree I had it down as ROBERTS. this was based on a marriage certificate I have for Daniel's son Daniel (my great, great grandfather) who came to Australia in the 1840's. On his marriage certificate he stated his parents were Daniel Lovelock, Farmer and Jane Roberts. Later I came across the Glamorgan Index which gave the date, 4 Jan 1816 and place, Oystermouth of a Daniel Lovelock marriage to a Jane Rees. This seemed to be correct so I changed Daniels wife to Rees before I submitted it as the "Nevada Fragment." Not aware of my find I believe my cousin in New Zealand submitted corrections to the tree and altered it back to Roberts. (I hope that makes sense to you) > >I guess it is possible that Daniel (son of Daniel) did not know, or forgot his mothers maiden name, or the Glamorgan BDM Index is incorrect of maybe she was a widow and remarried under her last married name? Any thoughts? > >The only other problem is one of age. From the information I received from Gwen Eastment Daniels date of birth was circa 1770, I don't know why as he would have been 46 when he married. I would have thought age on the 1851 census would be more likely ( Circa 1793 ).. I guess there could have been two Daniel Lovelocks who married two different Janes. > >An index of the 1841 census of Swansea and Wolverhampton could come in handy now. Is there one? > > >regards > >Richard Dowd > >Melbourne, Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > >