Regarding Sarah Ann: I've not been able to find any information to help place her. There does not seem to be a baptism anywhere, although she does appear in the GRO data (1Q of 1865). Presumably she was not another daughter of Ann's, as Ann would only have been 14 in 1865, so she must be the daughter of one of Ann's older sisters Elizabeth and Charlotte. I can't see any mention of her in 1881, but may have missed it. There is no death in our GRO data, but there is a marriage of a Sarah Ann in the Hungerford RD in 2Q of 1886. Charlotte eventually married Philip Winder and had 5 children in London starting in 1874. Of Elizabeth I know nothing apart from the 1851 Census entry that says she was born in GB c1849, but there is no baptism there for her, and the 1861 entry that says, probably more accurately, that she was born in West Grafton. I think we have had comments on this topic before, because the odd thing is that when Ann(ie) came along in 1851 George and Eliza had her baptised, so why not Elizabeth? Detectives one step forward, please. Regards to all Graham From: James Loveluck <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: census Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:31:25 +0100 Hi Jean, You're right, this could very well be Jane b. 1853 West Grafton - the dates/age certainly match. Concerning the illegitimate children living with George and Eliza, I believe that Ann(ie) is the mother of William - there is a baptism record for him at East Grafton as follows: 1871 Jun 25 William son of Ann Lovelock (single woman) However, Sarah Ann b. abt 1865 is new to me. James Jean Gilmore wrote: >I believe that the Jane Lovelock living with Tabulon Carter as > a servant in 1871 was my great grandmother the daughter >of george and Eliza Lovelock. I am also interested in >the illegitimate children mentioned in Georges household.Which > of her sisters had them? Jean Gilmore > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger