Greetings all I found the recent exchange on this illegitimate daughter of George Lovelock and Eliza Fisher most interesting. I had also wondered which of George's daughter's she belonged to? I was interested in Graham's comment that George's daughter Elizabeth married Philip Winder and finished up in London. I did not have this detail - just the name of her husband. I checked the 1881. I assume this is Elizabeth and Philip Winder: Dwelling: 1 Milson Place Census Place: Lambeth, Surrey, England Source: FHL Film 1341139 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0606 Folio 141 Page 47 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Philip WINDER M 42 M Sussex, England Rel: Head Occ: Labourer Charlotte WINDER M 35 F West Grafton, Wiltshire, England Rel: Wife Alice WINDER 7 F St Georges In The East Rel: Dau Mark WINDER 4 M Canning Town W Ham Rel: Son Annie WINDER 2 m F Canning Town W Ham Rel: Dau Ann BREWER 30 F West Grafton, Wiltshire, England Rel: Visitor However, Graham says they had 5 children and that only accounts for three of them. Graham, could I possibly have the marriage detail of Elizabeth Lovelock and Philip Winder and the details on their other two children please? Many thanks. I also checked the 1881 for Sarah Ann Lovelock. But had no more success than Graham. Perhaps she gave a false place of birth? I found the marriage of Sarah Ann at Hungerford RD in 1886 that Graham refers to in the FreeBMD. This gave two possible husbands: James Peck or Joseph Powell. But a search of the 1901 census for either a Sarah Peck or Powell produced no result. Robert Robert ---------------------------------------------- Robert Sterry 9 Baileys Lane, Kurrajong Hills NSW 2758 AUSTRALIA Ph: (61)0245 731805 FAX: (61) 0245731022 Email: [email protected]