James, your twin theory re Catherine & Wm b 1891 is busted!! I've checked my original handwritten refs (left out of the BMD list). Catherine is 782 and WA is 775 - both of course 11a like all others! Twins would normally have the same ref!! or at worst be 1 page different. I have been going through my BMD doc adding refs to 1901 census etc in blue. So in due course I will send it to you, James to "edit". My old notes: My fleeting visit to Chisledon Wilts Ch yd 24-9-1983 (no photos): John Loveluck who departed this life March 21 1764 (?1794?) aged 67 about 4th grave on right up path from gate nearby graves were largely illegible, but names seem unrelated, King, Pearce, Crook. NOTE Graham's date for 1763 is presumably 1763/4 - but 21 March was the change over! John's age is 63 in Wilts BurI, 65 from Graham and 67 from the gravestone - but that was not in very good nick. Its been on the cards for 20 +years that this John may be the father of our John ~1739! We still don't seem to have connected the London Lovelucks (Henry etc). Also there is a Catherine Elizabeth Loveluck bur Lewisham 17-3-1841 age 23 (list on www). I have found the area in the ch yd where the grave is (was), but the stones/tombs are so poor. Next door the Register Office were unable to find her death cert making the excuse there were too many districts!! It took them 3 weeks even with the book number from a short birth cert of my Aunt Daisy b 1910 to get her birth & death certs. She lived just 1 day, but a photo survives. Her father was away in Oz! So I'll have to get the CEL death cert from Southport, but this may not give a clue where she came from! I'd tidied up the set of B&W photos I have of the Maudlam graves taken about 30 years ago (I think they were mine - some were underexposed - they were B&W so before 1971) and a couple from Margam Abbey, which came from Janet H (only one found at pres!). Do you have prints or notes of these James? I don't seem to have a doc listing the details either. FOUND THEM! So I've now made a Word doc from 1858 to ~1980 of the will index entries and the occasional extra detail where I've seen the will, but can't fine the later will summaries -yet - do you want these James or anyone else? They give more info than in my BMD doc, which James has in any case curtailed for his web site. IN LOVING MEMORY OF DAVID JENKINS chemist (late of Bridgend) dIED June 7TH 1908 age 61 "The memory of the just is blessed" also OF Thomas Loveluck Jenkins sON of aforesaid dIED 16TH Nov 1925 aged 50 also Ann Lillian Jenkins dau of above dIED Apr 2nd --- aged --- IN LOVING MEMORY OF John Andrew Jenkins (chemist) son of David & Mary Izod Jenkins dIED July 18TH 1959 aged 80 YEARS also Henry Stanley Jenkins dIED March 8TH 1968 aged 77? Other side another Gwe .Jenkins dau- cant read because of angle, some vis on next pic - adjacent. B69 Eliz John who also who died aged also of Thomas their son who died December 28 1873 aged ? years also of the above named JOHN LOVELUCK WHO DIED FEB 28TH 1885 AGE 69 YEARS ALSO OF THE ABOVE NAMED CATHERINE LOVELUCK WHO DIED FEB 4TH 1896 AGED 78 YEARS A19 ELLEN BOWEN DAUGHTER OF THOMAS AND SARAH LOVELUCK OF THIS PARISH BORN JANUARY 30TH 1859? DIED MARCH 13TH 1864 ALSO OF ELLEN ANN DAUGHTER OF THE ABOVE BORN JUNE 19?TH 1864 DIED MAY 5TH 1865 ALSO OF THE ABOVE NAMED THOMAS LOVELUCK BORN AUGUST 29TH 1823 DIED DECEMBER 29TH 1876 ALSO OF JENNET MARIA DAUGHTER OF THE ABOVE BORN JULY 28TH 1875 DIED JULY 1ST 1877 ALSO OF THE ABOVE NAMED SARAH LOVELUCK BORN JULY 17TH 1839 DIED FEB 17 1916 Notes of another adj grave Sofia Wood died Swansea 26 Jan 1885 aged 86 William Bowen late of March 8 .77 years B68 In Memory of ANN wife of WILLIAM LOVELUCK of Aberavon who died the 19th Jan 1845 Aged 33 Years Also WILLIAM their Son died in his Infancy Also of the above named WILLIAM LOVELUCK who died 26th June 1873 Aged 61 Years A20 In Affectionate Remembrance JOHN THOMAS THE BELOVED HUSBAND OF MARGARET ELIZABETH LOVELUCK WHO DIED JULY 8TH 1929 AGED 63 ALSO OF THE ABOVE NAMED MARGARET ELIZABETH LOVELUCK WHO DIED APRIL 15TH 1951 AGED 84 YEARS IN MEMORY OF WILLIAM LOVELUCK FARMER OF THIS WHO DIED THE 4TH DAY OF MAY 1857 AGED 74 YEARS ALSO OF JOHN SON OF THE ABOVE NAMED AND ISOD HIS WIFE WHO DIED IN HIS INFANCY ALSO OF THE ABOVE NAMED ISOD LOVELUCK WHO DIED THE *TH DAY OF MARCH 18*7 AGED *2 (1867 82) C6 photo taken ~1948 by Janet Hearle nee Loveluck at Margam Abbey," the oldest stone relating to the Loveluck family at that date in Margam then to be seen." IN MEMORY OF MARY THE WIFE OF EDWARD LOVELUCK OF WATERTOWN WHO DIED 26TH SEP 1833 AGED 35 YEARS 2 lines of Welsh ALSO OF THOMAS HOPKIN BROTHER OF THE ABOVE NAMED LATE OF PENTYDLA WHO DIED 17 JUNE 1881 AGED 79 YEARS one line of Welsh William Ernest son of David and Mary Izod Jenkins d May 1 1873 age 6 months also David Hubert Jenkins d May 8 1876 age 2 years and 6 months also David Arthur Penrhyn Jenkins d Dec 27 1881 age 5 months also Herbert Jenkins d Nov 13 1882 age 2 weeks I think there are a few more photos of gravestones somewhere which have Sarah (nee Loveluck) Eckley etc on as I remember seeing it with my mother who was friendly with Sarah - I have some letters from her even after WWII. I also have some photos of thatched cottages & horses at Kenfig ~1932, but will have to think how they relate to "uncle" and his car. RG4 2293 at PRO Aberavon & Taibach Independent reg of bpt: no 56 Jennet dau of David Morgan & Marry (sic) Powell b 19-12-1823 in psh Lalestown bpt 23-1-1825 From somewhere on the www? Eliz Lovelock 21 signed X appr to Mich Staples for 5 years at Merryland (USA) 4-7-1683, ship master Jon Ingham - several others went as well but seem unconnected. Typed extract from Vol30 of Wilts Archeological & nat Hist Soc Mag 1901 (ex John Thomas?):- 1649 poor rate Chisselden William Lovelocke declined to contribute 1666 poll tax Chisseldon Wm Lovelocke £1 & Jane Lovelocke £1 1705 extract from reg of Bp. of Sarum; Terrier..vicarage of Chisleden - item one pasture ground by est 2 acres, Mr Hering on W side & Henry Louelock on E side. Henry Herring of Stratton st Margaret m Ann Lovelock of Swindon 18-2-1729 at Chisledon. 1733 land tax asst at Badbury John Lovelock 6s4d 1738 land tax at B JL or his tenant 12s8d, at Chisleden widow Lovelock 10s 1786 tithing of Badbury: Propr Loveluck, tenant Giles Tombe, pasture rent £9, tythe 3.6 (3/6? or £3 6s?) My notes: Will of Thomas Loveluck late of Shaw Berks diocese of Sarum 22 Feb 1775: I TL of S farmer to son Edward 4s weekly for life to be paid by whichever of my sons. to son Noah 30 guineas by exors to dau Diana Wallace 30 guineas to dau Betty L 1s to dau Molly L 30 guineas to wife Elizabeth L to live with exors to 3 sons Thomas, Gabriel, John residence X of TL proved Newbury 22-7-1776 Thomas Lovelock was churchwarden at Shaw and signed transcripts "o" 1768-71 and the other TL? chwdn 1778-87. a Wm Lovelock chwdn in 1800 and Gabriel in 1763. Gabriel & Martha had ch 1760-6 Gabriel L of Grange Farm Shaw bur 16-3-1769 Thomas bur 29-1-1776 Gabriel m Eliz L 2-5-1776 Thomas m Ann Crocker 7-7-1777 & had ch to 1790 Elizabeth L age 90 bur 23-10-1792 Wm L & Charlottee had ch 1793-6 Charlotte L age 35 bur 31-3-1801 Martha age 72 bur20-2-1797 There are many other wills of Lovelocks at Sarum. From a letter from John Thomas 22-6-1975: visited Llangyog - grave John Loveluck d 26-5-1889 age 85 & Mary his wife d 17-6-1892 age 76. These are parents of Ann wife Richard Thomas steelmaster. Farm was 105 acres initially rented from Lady Howard Stepney? of Llanelly. Fald Farm was owned by their son David L. Don't know when they bought it from LHS. Next door farmed by a bro & sis Griffiths - their g-mother was Margaret Loveluck. They said that Fald Farm had a lot of books which had belonged to David's bro who died young and (they thought) studied law. My notes from Wills: David L Ad granted to David Griffiths farmer £2014 1935 Extracts from Kelly's: 1871 Wm L custom Ho Officer Jenkins & Loveluck shipbrokers, coal & coke exporters & pitwood merchants James L Westfield Villa Ins Agent for "Royal" 1852 Edward L Legal & Commercial Ins Agent Bridgend 1914 Edward L Talbot Arms Hotel High St Aberavon Wm Griffith L apartments Colebrook Mary St Porthcawl Edward L Mor Lais, Esplanade Av Porthcawl Mrs L Brecon vil Victoria Rd Porthcawl Thomas L farmer Pentyle Margam James G L & son butchers 22 Dunraven Place Bridgend Bertie L (as above?) 11 Nolton St Edward L ARIBA architect Wyndham St Wm L farmer as above? GD L chemist High St Aberavon 1923 John Thomas L farmer Elmsfield Kenfig Wm Bowen L same Bertie asst overseer & collector to UDC, 11 Adare St Bridgend Edward L ARIBA architect 12 Dunraven Pl Thomas L motor engineer 9 Dunraven Pl Thomas J L, butcher 24 Queens St Wm L farmer, Tyn y punt Coity Kelly S Wales 1871 Mrs Margaret L gen draper Dunraven Pl Bridgend Mrs Sarah Marendez Globe & cabinet maker High St (Aberavon?) Edward L draper of Bridgend d 10-5-1862 his Ad & will left unadministered by Margaret widow relict residy legatee for life if she remain a widow. Ad granted 23-12-1891 to Wm L accountant of B, son £170 - former grant Feb1863 <£4000 John Dixon

John, sorry its taken me so long to respond to your message full of interesting source material (at least for the small number of listers interested in the Glamorgan Lovelucks!) We've already communciated off-list about my twin theory concerning Catherine & William b 1891 and I bow to the overwhelming evidence presented by Ron and yourself! Thanks for reminding me about the non-Glamorgan Lovelucks - maybe we need a Web page where we can collect together these Loveluck "strays". There are a couple of LovelUcks in the "Lyneham Line" on the LovelOck Web pages (now mis-named since it actually has its origins in Wroughton), which has a twig in Glamorgan, and clearly exhibits the LovelOck to LovelUck name change at a quite recent date. There are also the Tasmanian Lovelucks which trace their origins back to Henry Loveluck (1783-1867) of Marylebone (they can be found on the Lovelock Web site at: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/fragments/misc-lovelock-trees.html#Tasmania Concerning the Maudlam and Margam Abbey graves, I have the Glam FHS transcritions of many of them on the LovelUck Web site under Records -> Monumental Inscritions. There are also photos of many of the gravestones, taken during our pilgrimage to Glamorgan about 3 years ago, when Allen Blethyn gave me a guided tour of the churchyards! However, in your note there were several that I did not have on my Web page, including the first one (David Jenkins and family, including Mary Izod Jenkins, née Loveluck) and also the Jenkin grave at Margam Abbey - I'll add these to the corresponding Web pages. Note also the GFHS mix-up concerning the gravestone of Sophia Wood! The GFHS transcription of grave A20 also contains an error - the date of death of John Thomas Loveluck is given as Jul 8 1919, whereas it should be Jul 8 1929, as is quite clear from the photo. I'll stop here for now and deal with the rest of your message later! James