I think I can add something to a typically wry and perhaps forgotten musing on the part of Graham Lovelock, which I came across in an email to the list on 16 Nov 2000, the whole posted in response to Robert Sterry's challenge (6 Nov 2000) to 'Lovelock sleuths' to unravel the mystery of the great-grandparents of William Oliver Lovelock (bap. 18 April 1875 at Wootton Rivers). This may seem obscure (wait a moment for the wider context if it escapes you). I also appreciate that it's a rather belated comment on my part, but I've only recently been drawn in to all this via the 'Lovelocks Alive' event! And I'd best make clear that I don't seriously offer what follows as an example of sound family history research. Treat it, rather, as a mere thought, a minor part of the larger jigsaw. Graham (16/11/2000): "... this all started from Robert's record of the marriage of William Oliver on 2 August 1915 which included the information that he was a widower ... ... [D]o I gather from the fact that the Watchfield marriage entry records no place of residence for William Oliver's second wife Anna that she was "of this parish"? If so, isn't it interesting that William's brother Alfred John also married a Pocock, Florence Ethel, whose father was, like Anna's, named David, but that the marriage took place in Wootton Rivers where both Alfred and Florence resided?" The Alfred John mentioned above was my grandfather. Francis George, the grandfather of fellow-lister David Lovelock (see his posting of 28 Aug 2003) was another brother. All three were baptised in Wootton Rivers, as were the other four children of George (bap. 7 Jun 1846, Wootton Rivers) and Harriett, said George being descended from David (bap. 4 Sept 1814, Wootton Rivers). Further back matters concerning this line are less clear; Robert's challenge, as some of you will I know recall, was a way of framing the (as yet still unresolved) matter of which of at least three John Lovelocks married which of at least two Elizabeths and which pair had a certain eight children, all baptised in Wootton Rivers between 1778 and 1797 (inclusive). The answer to this is potentially a vital element in the larger matter of whether 'the Wootton Rivers Lovelocks' can be linked to 'the Lieflock line' of Wiltshire Lovelocks, which by now encompasses many Lovelocks from villages near to WR (se! e the Lovelock Family History website). Be that as it may, Graham's sidelong question has I think a quite straightforward answer, at least if 'anecdote' may at least point towards 'the facts'. My understanding from family lore is that both Florence Ethel and Anna Isabel grew up in Watchfield. When Anna visited her younger but already married sister in Wootton Rivers she met William Oliver, Ethel's widowed brother-in-law. QED. That, of course, is only the one part of it. Pending further conversations with my surviving aunts and uncles, I don't know how and why Ethel came to be living in Wootton Rivers before her marriage, as she appears to have been. Watch this space? My real aim here, of course, is to encourage renewed attention among interested fellow-listers in the larger topic: 'the Wootton Rivers Lovelocks and the Lieflock line'. Regards to all, in the wee small hours. Robin