James A few matters I’d like to take up regarding your latest on the above: “(L)1918 Sep 1 Charles Wilfred son of Leonard and Emma Lovelock I can't identify this birth, nor the parents.” If you check out the 1901 Census for Farm Lane or Jubilee Street in GB you will find a Leonard aged 9, the son of Charles and Sarah, Charles being the son of James and Honor (Gigg). I have assumed this to be the Leonard who later married Emma. There is no record of Leonard’s baptism, of course, but I have speculated on this in the past, I believe: James was a Wesleyan preacher (see the 1881 Census) so it may be that some of the family baptisms and marriages (were the appropriate licences in place? – don’t know) are in Methodist Chapel records, or perhaps the children were simply blessed, and the marriages were conducted in Register Offices? In my personal scanning of GRO records I noted the birth entry in the Apr-Jun quarter of 1891 of an Alfred Leonard in the Hungerford RD (only captured on our Website as Alfred), and the marriage of an Alfred L Lovelock, again in the Hungerford RD, in the Oct-Dec quarter of 1915, which certainly look like candidate entries to me. And of course the identity of “Leonard” as Alfred Leonard seems even more likely if you consider the baptism on 05 Nov 1916 of Amy Alberta daughter of Alfred Leonard and Emma Amy Lovelock of "The Jockey". That, I think, sews up Charles Wilfred et al unless somebody has information to demolish the whole edifice, but I can not see how. Just one worry – have we exposed data on living Lovelocks without consent? Second – the burial of Ann Lovelock (nee Stroud): I do not doubt that the burial in 1865 is hers. Husband Thomas was buried on 18 Feb 1869, which is why we find their daughter Elizabeth with her uncle and aunt James and Honor in the 1871 Census at 12 Farm Lane in GB. And next door at 11 Farm Lane, guess what? 16 year-old Sarah Lovelock is recorded as a Domestic Servant in the household of James Gigg, who was Honor Gigg’s brother. Of Martha I have found no trace in 1871 - has anybody else? Susannah Ann could be the Susannah at Polesdon’s Farm in Shalbourne, working as a Domestic Servant for William Aslett – she gave her place of birth as Grafton, which doesn’t fit, and her age as what I read as 16, but may well have been 18, which might increase the probability of making her the one, but I suspect that she is actually the 19 year-old Ann born in GB who was a servant for farmer David Meadham in Little Bedwyn. In 1881 Ann as she referred to herself was at Little Bedwyn with husband James (French) and sister Elizabeth, both sisters claiming birth in GB. Curiously I don’t think there is any baptism record of a Susannah from Grafton at any time, so doubts remain about who that young lady actually was. “1927 Mar 26 Sarah Annie Lovelock Gt Bedwyn Aged 76 Is this the wife of Charles L (bap. 14 Jan 1849)? “ I believe it must be. “1940 Jul 30 Jane Lovelock Aged 83 This could be Jane née Wyle, who mar. Richard L (bap. 16 Jul 1847) at Gt Bedwyn 15 Apr 1877. I have her born 1857 at Buttermere (source: Graham). Entered as such and flagged as Lieflock line.” I believe it is her. In fact her birthplace from the 1881 Census is Henley, Wilts, which was part of the parish of Buttermere. Her age in 1881 was 24, giving a birth year of 1856 or 1857. Regards Graham _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo