Hi Sian, I am quite excited as I have just found our James on the 1837 online site! James Lovelock, registered Wantage, in Oct-Dec 1837, GRO ref vol 6 pg 202. I also found his 2 brothers William, reg Wantage in Apr-Jun 1838 and George reg in Wantage in Jul-Sep 1838. They must have been born barely 9 months apart.. The James reg in Sept 1838 is also on the 1837 site, but in Reading. As I mentioned before I contacted a lady called Jill on Genes Reunited and she has that James in her tree, and it definitely isn't ours. I am going to order copy of the birth certificate for the Wantage James Lovelock, hopefully it will confirm he is son of John and Harriet Lovelock. Will let you know. Best wishes, Michelle sian davies <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Michelle, I have James reg in the Sept qtr of 1838, will check again. Have you heard from Ron again We had a lovely weekend, the weather was lovely. Best Wishes Sian >From: michelle lovelock >To: sian davies >Subject: RE: James Lovelock >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 23:20:31 +0100 (BST) > >Hi, >Yes, I thought it had to be that James Lovelock as well, but on the >Lovelock site it shows this James with his family, father also called >James, in the Reading district. If only it was this James, as he stays the >same age on each census, his birth and wedding are listed, etc etc! >I am not sure which age to believe, but there are 2 brothers of James >listed as age 11 and 10 on the 1851 census, and he is listed as 13; and in >the 1841 census he is listed as aged 3 - as this is while he is still young >I am inclined to go with this. I guess the confusion set in as he got >older, due to illiteracy and bad records etc.. Would explain why we can't >find his birth record on internet, as pre-1837. I am starting to feel >fairly sure he was born in 1837. >The other 2 elder brothers, William and George are both registered in 1838, >one in first quarter, one in last quarter, so I guess Harriet just had a >fertile year!! >I had an e-mail from a great grandson of John and Harriet's youngest son >Charles, a man called Ron Shepperd, he says Harriet's maiden name is Davis. >Hopefully when he sends me his tree it will have some info we don't yet >know! >Have a nice weekend away, >Michelle. > >sian davies wrote: >Dear Michelle, > >What a shame as this James Frederick fitted perfectly. I will look on Genes >Reunited as I am subscribed to it. Have you put your tree on it. I have >put mine on but not Freddies Lovelock side. Should we not believe the >wedding certificate rather than the census and believe he was born in 1838. >This family sure makes life difficult moving as they did between Wilts and >Berks. I did email Uncle Bob that we had been corresponding and the info on >James Lovelock but have not had a reply. > >I am away for the weekend so speak to you next week > >Best Wishes > >Sian > > > >From: michelle lovelock > >To: sian davies > >Subject: RE: James Lovelock marriage cert > >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:24:31 +0100 (BST) > > > >Sian, > >I have looked at the 1851 census on lovelock webpage, and it shows this > >entry: > >John 42, born Westcote > >Harriet 36, born Denchworth > >with children Ann 16; James 13; William 11; George 10; Jane 4; John >3months > >(all born various places in Wantage). > >Looking at later census' adds 2 more children, Charles b1856 and Esther > >b1852. > >I think this is likely to be our James and John, but it gives yet another > >birth year for James, as if he was 13 in 1851 he couldn't have been 26 in > >1865 as per wedding certificate! > >I don't think the James registered in 1838 in Reading is the same James, >as > >an ancestor of this James is on the Genes Reunited site and I have viewed > >her tree. > >I am guessing James' birth is nowhere on the internet, but was pre 1837 >so > >not on bmd. > >Michelle > > > >sian davies wrote: > >Michelle the only James Lovelock I could find on bmd was James Frederick > >Sept qtr 1838 in the district of Reading and Jane Brind Sept 1843 in > >Newbury > >which would make them 26 and 21 which would be the right ages for the > >marriage cert Sian. Interesting that James was a Frederick > > > > > > >From: michelle lovelock > > >To: sian davies > > >Subject: James Lovelock marriage cert > > >Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:47:56 +0100 (BST) > > > > > >Hi Sian, > > >Hope you are well. Just to let you know I ordered the marriage > >certificate, > > >and it is the correct one. It shows James Lovelock age 26 marrying Jane > > >Brind age 21,in the parish of Sparshott, Berks, on April 15th 1865. > > >The hand writing is fairly clear on Jane's surname, definitely Brind > >rather > > >than Bruid, as you read from Fredk J birth certificate. > > >His father shown as John Lovelock, her's as Elijah Brind. Place of > > >residence listed as Westcote, Berks, which ties in with info from the > >1871 > > >census where James lists his place of birth as Wescote. > > >I think this gives us a lot more definite info about the pair! > > >Michelle > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > How much mail storage do you get for free? Yahoo! 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