Dear Robert, Thank you for your most informative letter. Michelle Lovelock now doesnt think that James is the James Frederick I thought because she has found him on the website in a census living with his family and his fathers name is James. James son of John and Harriet is listed as being born in Childrey but I understand now why I cannot find him. Strange John's birthplace Westcote doesnt seem to exist in Berkshire anymore but no doubt we will track him down. Unfortunately living so far way and working full time with four grown up children still living at home I will not be able to get up there for research in the near future so it will have to be put on hold till I either retire or the boys leave home. Thank you very much for explaining it, its seems a long time ago we met at Lovelocks Alive doesnt it. Sincerely Sian >From: "Robert Sterry" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: John and James Lovelock >Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 16:53:03 +1000 > >Hi Sian > >I thought I'd explain a little more about why you can't find your relatives >on the Lovelocks (by parish) in Berkshire file and what you can do about >it. >At the same time it may be worth clarifying for other listers as well. > >This file represents a COMBINED summary of mainly baptism, marriage and >burial LOVELOCK information SO FAR researched - mostly by people carefully >scanning through an original parish register or at least a film or >microfiche of the register - by all Lovelock reseachers with whom we have >had contact. These files also include entries from other indexes, such as >the IGI or Boyd's Marriage Index, that have been referenced. > >NOT ALL PARISHES HAVE BEEN RESEARCHED. And certainly not all parishes have >been researched from the very earliest record to the most recent. > >This file was intended originally as a RESEARCH GUIDE so that you could see >what had already been researched and avoid duplication. The hope was that >people would then do FURTHER searching of parish registers and add to the >accumulated knowledge for that county. > >One should be cautious with all index entries as they are prone to errors >and omissions. Original parish records should always be referenced if at >all >possible. > >For example, Sian, you have found out that your James Frederick Lovelock >was >born in 'Childrey Wantage' Sep qtr 1838. I assume you have the birth >certificate which shows that he was born in the REGISTRATION DISTRICT of >Wantage. > >However, as you undoubtedly know, this does not tell us exactly what parish >he was BAPTISED in. The RD of Wantage includes the following the following >parishes Aldworth, Ardington, Beedon, Blewbury, Brightwalton, Catmore, >Chaddleworth, Charlton, Childrey, Chilton, Compton, Denchworth, East >Challow, East Hanney, East Hendred, East Ilsley, East Lockinge, >Farnborough, >Fawley, Goosey, Grove, Hampstead Norris, Harwell, Letcombe Bassett, >Letcombe >Regis, Peasemore, Sparsholt Upton, Wantage, West Challow, West Hanney, West >Hendred, West Ilsley, West Lockinge. > >Your James Frederick could have been baptised at any of them. However, >Childrey is of course the most likely. > >If you check what we have in the combined file for Lovelocks in Childrey, >you will see that baptisms for Childrey have only been searched up until >1812. > >Searching for the baptism of his father abt 1808 in 'Westcote' is a little >tricky as Westcote is not a parish. In fact I'm not sure where Westcote, >Berkshire is. I can't find it in my AA Atlas. The nearest I can see is >Westcott in Buckinghamshire. Possibly it used to be in Berkshire? We need >some local knowledge here. Any offers of help? > >At any rate, once you do determine the likely parish, use the combined >Berkshire vital records list to ascertain whether it has in fact been >searched for the appropriate years. If not, then perhaps you'd consider >doing some research yourself. If you can't get to the Berkshire Record >Office or SOG (who have a lot of parishes but check first), it has probably >been filmed by the Mormons and you can order in the film from your local >LDS >Family History Centre at a very reasonable cost. > >Hope this helps. > >Cheers from very pleasant and sunny Spring day at Kurrajong, Australia. > >Robert > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sian davies [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, 3 October 2004 4:28 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: John and James Lovelock > > > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > Can anyone tied my tree into the Berkshire Lovelocks? I am > > unable to get > > into the tree on the website not having the software. > > > > > > James Frederick Lovelock born Sep qtr 1838 in Childrey > > Wantage parents John > > b around 1808 in Westcote Berks and Harriet b Denchworth > > Berks. James > > married Jane Brind in Sparshot on 15 April 1865. > > > > I am unable to find any bmd for John on the website. Perhaps > > I have missed > > something. > > > > Thanks > > > > Sian Davies formally Lovelock > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > > Lovelock family history Web pages: > > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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