It certainly would be gratifying if we could connect the Nevada Lovelocks to the Lyneham Line - so far everyting seems to fit together! You're quite right Robert that there would seem to be an error in the Nevada fragment on the Web site concerning the name of Daniel L's first wife (should be Rees, not Roberts). By the way, I think you're looking at the wrong version of the Nevada Lovelocks file - the latest version is under "Misc Trees" at: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/fragments/misc-lovelock-trees.html#Nevada and I had eliminated the duplication of some of the detail about Daniel Lovelock. Returning to the Lovelocks in Glamorgan file, we don't have an explanation of the 4 Lovelock burials at Oystermouth which Robert recently provided from the NBI. Perhaps John (bur 17 Mar 1811) is the brother of Daniel bap 2 Jan 1713 at Cherhill, and the others are his children (Daniel did also have a brother George, but he was bur at Lyneham 3 Jan 1874). The additional data provided by Chris in his follow-up message nicely fills in the story after Daniel moved to Wolverhampton. It would be interesting to hear from Richard Dowd and/or Jack Lovelock (I think they're both on the mailing list) about the early part of the Nevada Lovelock tree! James Robert Sterry wrote: >Well done James! I believe you have indeed connected the Nevada Lovelock >line to the Lyneham line. This is pretty exciting stuff and doesn't happen >very often. > >The 1851 census data that Chris Knight supplied on Daniel Lovelock of >Wolverhampton exactly matches that of Daniel L bp 1793, the son of Thomas L >and Jane Bratfield on the Lyneham line. > >I'd love to have the full text of the 1851 census details from Chris on >Daniel and his family at Wolverhampton. I'd also like to have the detail on >his second marriage if Chris could supply. Does Chris have Daniel's burial >detail? > >I had a bit of a hunt on the IGI, FreeBMD and what we have from the GRO. I >did find a likely marriage (on Free BMD) of Daniel's daughter Mary (bp 1822) >to George Ridley at Wolverhampton (6b 541). I also noticed from our >Glamorgan BDM file that Daniel's first marriage was to a Jane REES not >ROBERTS. > >I did find what looks like his second marriage at Wolverhampton amongst our >extracts for the GRO (1847 Wolverhampton, XVII, 337, 1). > >Chris, can you help with some more detail please?? > >Great work! > >Robert > >PS I noticed that Daniel L's detail on the Lovelock site appears to be >entered twice. > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: James Loveluck [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Saturday, 30 October 2004 8:16 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: Daniel Lovelock Wolverhampton >> >> >>Chris, >> >>I wonder if Daniel Lovelock could be the progenitor of the "Nevada >>Lovelock Line"? You will find this on the Web site as the >>first fragment >>of the "Misc Trees" at: >>http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ >>fragments/misc-lovelock-trees.html >> >>According to this fragment Daniel (a gardner!) married Jane >>Roberts at >>Oystermouth, Glam, Wales 4 Jan 1816 and they had 5 children, >>including >>Mary bap. 20 Apr 1822 at Newport Wales (this doesn't quite >>fit your data >>but it's within the errors of census returns etc.) The fragment has >>Daniel died at Wolverhampton 22 Apr 1846 which must be wrong if he >>re-married in 1847. >> >>I assume that the link to the "Lyneham Line" (descendants of Abraham >>Lovelock and Priscilla Greenway) would be by the identification of >>Daniel as the son of Thomas Lovelock and Jane Bratfield, >>baptised 3 Mar >>1793 at Compton Bassett. It would be very interesting if we >>could link >>the Nevada Lovelocks to the Lyneham Line! >> >>Regards, >> >>James >> >>Chris Knight wrote: >> >> >> >>>Daniel was my 3rd great grandfather and at the time of the 1851 >>>census, aged 58 and a gardener, lived in Wolverhampton >>> >>> >>(Brewood) with >> >> >>>his second wife and daughter Mary (my 2nd great grandmother) by an >>>earlier marriage. He married his second wife in >>> >>> >>Wolverhampton in 1847. >> >> >>>Daniel's birthplace is given as Compton Basset and I believe him to >>>have been descended from the line of Abraham Lovelock and Priscilla >>>Greenaway. His daughter Mary was born abt 1824 in >>> >>> >>Gloucester according >> >> >>>to an 1861 census entry for her. >>> >>>I wonder if anyone might have a clue about Mary's mother Daniel's >>>first wife - and whether he may have had other children by her? >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Chris Knight >>> >>> >>> >>==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== >>Lovelock family history Web pages: >>http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ >> >>============================== >>View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your >>ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > >==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== >Lovelock family history Web pages: >http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > >============================== >OneWorldTree - The World's largest family tree. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13971/rd.ashx > > > > >

Hi James > Returning to the Lovelocks in Glamorgan file, we don't have an > explanation of the 4 Lovelock burials at Oystermouth which Robert > recently provided from the NBI. Perhaps John (bur 17 Mar 1811) is the > brother of Daniel bap 2 Jan 1713 at Cherhill, and the others are his > children (Daniel did also have a brother George, but he was bur at > Lyneham 3 Jan 1874). Quite possibly. However, with luck, the full burial record may just name the parents, remembering that the NBI is only an index of course. I wonder if the Oystermouth PR is available on film through the Mormons? > It would be interesting to hear from Richard Dowd and/or Jack > Lovelock > (I think they're both on the mailing list) about the early > part of the > Nevada Lovelock tree! Indeed it would!! Hopefully this new link will stimulate some more discussion on the list. Best Robert PS My apologies James. You have indeed eliminated the Daniel duplication in the latest version of the Nevada Lovelock fragment. I'm not sure now where I grabbed it from off the site. But obviously the wrong place! :-(