I have received this e mail from Heather Tayelor in South Africa. I thought the information on Charles Frederick might be useful to someone on the List. Best Wishes John Lovelock Hedgerley Bucks UK -----Original Message----- From: ctayelor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 31 March 2004 14:08 To: John Lovelock Subject: Re: Looking for Fred LOVELOCK Hi John No good news for you, I am afraid, Except to rule out the Newcastle Lovelocks. I looked at all the death notices country-wide, and only found 2 Lovelocks. Interestingly, some Loverocks, which I have never heard of. Charles Frederick b. Wiltshire in 1879. Died 1940 in Newcastle. Survived by wife Kate, who died in 1948. Children were Ronald Charles b. 1920 and Stanley Frederick in 1921. Kate And CF were married in London. The info might be of use to one of your contacts. I was hopeful when I saw the similarity of names, but alas. The death notices only go up to 1970, so maybe your Fred died later than tha if you saw him in 64. I did look at the LDS searching SA page. They suggest the Gen Soc of SA, Conrad Mercer's surname page and Heather MCAllister's home page, All can be found at Rootsweb, but no online facility at LDS. Also the Pretoria Archives are meant to be good, but I have never been there, as it is a bit far. Sorry I could not help more. Regards Heather Fred was born in Henley-on-Thames Oxfordshire in 1899. His father was William George Lovelock. I believe that Audrey, Bernard and Theresa were born in London.