Well! Well! Well! Another piece of The Lieflock Line jigsaw falls into place, I think. (Welcome news or not, James?) I believe this Charles Frederick was baptised at East Grafton on 29 Sep 1878, the son of Mary Lovelock (of West Grafton). His birth was registered in the Jul-Sep quarter of 1878 in the Hungerford RD. In the 1881 Census he was at West Grafton Lane Cottages, Great Bedwyn, with his mother Mary, and grandmother Charlotte Champion. Charlotte was of course the daughter of Thomas L and Sarah Dudman. Mary was Charlotte's illegitimate daughter. Charles Frederick is thus my second cousin, once removed. Charles Frederick had a sister, also illegitimate, baptised as Eveline Louisa at East Grafton on 5 Jun 1881. She was buried at East Grafton, but entered in the Register as Emily Louisa, on 7 September 1884. Apart from that I knew nothing, so thank you for the information, John, and of course thanks to Heather Taylor. Would she happen to know when Charles Frederick arrived in SA do you think? James - the only bits of the above currently in The Lieflock Line relate to Charlotte and to Mary's baptism (at the bottom of Page 10). Regards to all Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lovelock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:31 PM Subject: Charles Frederick Lovelock B 1879 Wiltshire > I have received this e mail from Heather Tayelor in South Africa. > > I thought the information on Charles Frederick might be useful to > someone on the List. > > Best Wishes > > John Lovelock > Hedgerley > Bucks > UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: ctayelor [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 31 March 2004 14:08 > To: John Lovelock > Subject: Re: Looking for Fred LOVELOCK > > Hi John > > No good news for you, I am afraid, Except to rule out the Newcastle > Lovelocks. > > I looked at all the death notices country-wide, and only found 2 > Lovelocks. Interestingly, some Loverocks, which I have never heard of. > > Charles Frederick b. Wiltshire in 1879. Died 1940 in Newcastle. Survived > by wife Kate, who died in 1948. Children were Ronald Charles b. 1920 and > Stanley Frederick in 1921. Kate And CF were married in London. The info > might be of use to one of your contacts. I was hopeful when I saw the > similarity of names, but alas.