Hi Brian From your death details, the IGI baptism of Edward Lovelock in 1811 at Kingsclere certainly looks like a match. I quite understand the problems of distance and time. After all, I live in Australia! Great that you have his death certificate. Obtaining a fiche reader sounds an excellent idea - provided you can obtain the fiche you need of course. Alteratively, you could go along to your local Mormon Family History Centre and order films of parishes of interest through them and view them there. Not all are filmed of course, but an awful lot are. Are you aware of the LDS internet site where you can check what films are available through the Mormons on www.familysearch.org? But then, your nearest LDS FHC might not be within practical travelling distance for you either. I guess I'm pretty lucky here. I have one just ten minutes drive from home - even though I live on the other side of the globe. I just checked the LDS site. They have lots on Kingsclere, including: Title: Parish registers, 1809-1920 Authors: Church of England. Parish Church of Kingsclere (Hampshire) (Main Author) Note Location Film Banns, 1809-1881 (fiche 1-3 out of a set of 4) FHL BRITISH Fiche 6344310 Baptisms, 1867-1920 (fiche 4 out of a set of 4) FHL BRITISH Fiche 6344311 Marriages, 1837-1873 (fiche 1-4 out of a set 5) FHL BRITISH Fiche 6344312 I wondered about purchasing fiche through the Hampshire RO so, just out of interest, I checked them out on http://www.hants.gov.uk Didn't find any fiche for sale there so tried Hampshire Genealogical Society on http://www.hantsgensoc.demon.co.uk/ They have the whole 1851 and 1891 census for Hampshire available in booklet form. and some monumental inscriptions for some parishes. No PRs though. Checked out a few links from these sites but couldn't locate any fiche of PRs for sale. So you might be out of luck there. Pity. A number of Record Offices and Family History Societies do offer fiche for sale. Perhaps they are available through some other commercial supplier? Phillimore's index to Hampshire marriage registers - £8.00 is available through the RO. Anyone on Lovelock list know? Anyhow, glad I could help a bit. Let's know how you go. Best wishes Robert -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- Thanks for the info from the IGI on Edward Lovelock,this seems very likely the Edward I have been looking for (now subject to confirmation) for your information if it is the right one which i reckon as a guess sounds like it is then his death details are in the Oct-Dec quarter of 1877 his death was recorded in the Kingsclere registration district aged 66 yrs yes i do live in the uk but i live a distance that is unpractical for travelling to and from the Hampshire RO due to amount of searching needed at present would need loads of vists,and due to other committitments on my time is limited at present however i am currently on the look out for a fiche reader to enable me to view records in my own time at home etc hopefully this will be over the next few weeks. regards brian p.s my intrest in Edward is that he is my 2nd gt grandfather