I think I may have found the problem. I finally got on to the LDS site and had a fiddle about. I discovered that if you simply use the first search engine that pops up and enter Wales as the country you get nothing. However, if you search for England and when you get your first names downloaded (none being from Wales) and then click the Refine search button, you get a different search window which allows you to specify the county. If you then enter Wales, it produces the Loveluck names. However, when I tried to repeat this search, I couldn't get back up this second search window which allows searching by counties - which would be very handy. In fact I've never seen it before. I only kept getting the first search window which steadfastly refuses to devulge any Lovelucks at all in Wales. Something very strange going on here. I will send to the LDS list and see what they make of it. Very odd. Perhaps there's something wrong with my browser. Could a few of you please try the LDS site: www.familysearch.org and see if you can bring up any Lovelucks in Wales? I'd be most interested to see how you fare. Best wishes Robert Sterry