In case anyone is interested: http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/transcription-tuesday-2019-familysearch-parish-registers Regards, Graham

Hello all, In Jul-Sep 1939 David A Healey married Margaret G B Fagents somewhere in the Staines Registration District. According to the 1939 Register, when the couple were living in Priory Road, Twickenham, Middlesex, Margaret later married a Lovelock. However, neither Free BMD nor Ancestry have any record of that marriage, either under the name Healey or Fagents. There does not seem to be any record of Margaret's death - she was born on 15 Jun 1918 - nor, indeed, of any Margaret G B born on that date. Can anyone provide any more information? Regards, Graham

Hello all, and a happy, healthy and productive New Year to all. The 2019 'What's New' page has already been garnished with a few entries, and as a 'matter arising' the first puzzle of the year has made itself apparent. Between 1850 and 1950 Free BMD lists the births of four young ladies with the name Alice A Lovelock: Alice Ann in 1867 Alice Annie in 1884 Alice A in Jan-Mar 1920 Alice A in Jan-Mar 1921 From 1867 to 1950 there are three deaths of interest: Alice Annie in 1887 aged 3 Alice A in 1932 aged 59 Alice A in 1936 aged 69 The death in 1887 seems likely to be the girl born in 1884, and the death in 1936 that of the girl born in 1867. The death in 1932 occurred on the Isle of Wight, and is the wife of William Hopkins Lovelock who had married Alice Annie Cooke on the Island in 1906. So what became of the young ladies born in 1920 and 1921? Are we to look forward to a centenary or two in the near future? Neither of them is identifiable in the 1939 Register, suggesting that they did not die before 1992, neither appears in Ancestry's listing of deaths up to 2007 nor in Findmypast's listing of deaths between 2007 and 2017, although we know the latter is incomplete. The 'Find a Will' website, which sometimes provides evidence of a death that the Findmypast listing does not include, has nothing to offer us in this case. If they emigrated we have not managed to capture those particular records. And so to the puzzle. Ancestry lists the following marriages of Alice A Lovelock: Apr-Jun 1942 in Blackburn RD, Lancashire Jul-Sep 1943 in Bridgwater RD, Somerset Jan-Mar 1950 in Lewisham RD, London Apr-Jun 1952 in Surrey North Eastern RD Quite possibly the young ladies born in 1920 and 1921 can account for two of those marriages, but who then are the other two brides? Are they ladies engaging in a second or later marriage perhaps? Not according to Free BMD which has only the William Hopkins Lovelock marriage mentioned above involving a bride named Alice A. We know from our 'Lovelocks in Lancashire' data that the 1942 bride was Alice Amelia Lovelock, and she married Albert Harrison. The Free BMD record of the 1952 marriage shows that Frank Eccles married a lady whose name was recorded as Alice A Lovelock, but also as Alice A Harrison. So it looks as though Alice Amelia and Albert had parted company. Alice Amelia Eccles died in Mar 1997, and her date of birth was 9 Feb 1921. She thus appears to be the daughter of William Lovelock and Annie Pett, who are recorded in Fragment E of our collection of Irish Fragments. Since the available evidence suggests that the other two ladies are still living please contact me off-list if you can throw any light on this conundrum regarding either of them who is still with us. Regards, Graham [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>

Hello Graham: This is in my family line, but it's very confusing and I don't have any answers at this time. I'll get back to you when I investigate further and if I can answer your questions. The very early part of your email is correct. Elizabeth Dear married William Lovelock first, and then after being widowed, she married James Blunt. I do have all the Lovelock/Blunt children listed, but I don't think I necessarily have their marriages listed. And from what you show -- it's very confusing. I do know that Elizabeth and William had two daughters named Louisa. The first I show as named Louisa Lovelock, and the second named Louisa Charlotte Lovelock. I'll look further and see what I can find for you. Best Wishes and Happy New Year! Charlotte Huggins On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:53 AM Graham Lovelock <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com> wrote: > ..... which is to say, that I find it curious but you may (be able to) > take a different view. > > If you check Free BMD Birth entries from 1837 to 1876 you will not find a > single Louisa Charlotte Lovelock. However, on 25 June 1874 Louisa Charlotte > the daughter of William and Elizabeth (nee Dear) Lovelock of Greenhill was > baptised in the church of St Mary, Harrow, Middlesex. It had been concluded > that the girl in question was registered at birth as just Louisa - as per > the Apr-Jun 1874 entry in the Hendon RD (ref 3a 111) - and the GRO Online > Index now confirms that her mother's maiden name was indeed Dear. > > William and Elizabeth had had another daughter in 1872 that they named > Louisa, but she died alas in 1873. It would seem that the couple decided on > the additional 'Charlotte' between registering the birth and the baptism. > > William died in 1876 and Elizabeth re-married in 1878 to a James Blunt. > Recorded as just plain Louisa the subject of this message was with James > and Elizabeth in 1881, as James' step-daughter, born in Greenford Green. By > 1891 she had entered into 'Service' and was with the Golding family in > Greenford Magna, but this time with Greenhill as her birthplace. > > Moving on to 1901 we reach the point where my curiosity was piqued, and > perhaps yours will be, too. We currently have Louisa recorded as the > 25-year-old wife of William Reading, born in Greenford, and living in > Eltham in Southeast London. With them was a son Herbert W, recorded as > being 8 years old, although this should have been 8 months. But now that we > can check Herbert's birth entry in the GRO Online Index we find that his > mother's maiden name was Betts, and sure enough the birth of a Louisa Betts > in Jan-Mar 1876 was recorded in the Brentford RD, which includes Greenford. > And for good measure the maiden name of the mother of Herbert's four > siblings is also recorded as Betts. > > I shall thus be deleting the 1901 and 1911 entries that we currently have > for Louisa Charlotte Lovelock. > > And in their place? Well, having said that Free BMD has no birth entry for > a Louisa Charlotte, it does have one marriage entry: > > Paddington RD, Apr-Jun 1892, Louisa Charlotte Lovelock married Ferdinand > Victor Toussaint Thomas. > > Which leads us to an entry for 28 Station Road, Walthamstow, Essex in > 1901, where we find: > > Fredk Thomas;Head;37;Grocer;Brighton, Sussex > Louisa Thomas;Wife;27;;Greenhill, Middx > Victor J Thomas;Son;11mos;Walthamstow, Essex > Fernand Thomas;Son;1mo;;Walthamstow, Essex > Elizbth Thomas;M i law, Wid;60;;Roxeth, Middx > Annie Thomas;Assisnt;24;Shop Assnt Grocer;Eastcote, Middx > > A notable situation for more reasons than one. Having been childless for > the first 7 years or so of their marriage Frederick and Louisa then managed > to produce two sons in apparently 10 months. But why is Elizabeth Thomas > recorded as Frederick's Mother in law, as there is no record of Elizabeth > Blunt (or Lovelock, or Dear if she chose to go back to one of those names) > marrying anyone with the surname Thomas in the gap between 1891 (when > Elizabeth Blunt is recorded as a Widow) and 1901? And what of Annie? Could > she be a sister, or a step-sister? Well, there is a birth entry for Annie > Thomas in the Brentford RD in Jul-Sep 1876 which appears to be the young > lady in question, but her mother's maiden name was Dear. She might be the > daughter of John Thomas and Elizabeth Dear who married in 1872 in the > Brentford RD ..... but another Elizabeth Dear? That hardly helps. > > By 1911 Frederick had decided to call himself Fernand Victor Thomas again, > and had given up the grocery trade to become a Law Clerk. Louisa seems to > have taken over their grocery business. But the 1911 Census entry raises > yet another puzzle. The couple declare they have had 5 children of whom one > has died, but the GRO Online Index only identifies 4 births where the > mother's maiden name was Lovelock. > > And then ..... the whole family seem to disappear. There was the death of > a Louisa C T Thomas in the Brentford RD in 1945 at the age of 71, but with > that third forename indicated could it actually be Louisa Charlotte? > > A curious case? > > Regards, > > Graham > > _______________________________________________ > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://lovelock.free.fr/ > Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: > http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lovelock@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Graham - me again! From my family tree, compiled years ago with the help from Penny (Joan Mildred), this is what I know. Florence Agnes Locklock, nee Berry (born 1868) married William Charles Lovelock (born 1866). They had 6 children. 1. William Lovelock who married Maud and had Dorothy. 2. Florence who married Harry Jupp and they had Lionel who married Mavis. Mavis and Lionel had a daughter, Susan, who married Andrew and they had 4 children, Chris, Michael, Emily and Elaine. 3. Leonard married May who had Iris and Vera. 4. Ivy married Eric Cunningham and their daughter was Audrey Patricia (known as Pat - she didn’t like her name!) Audrey married William Speller and I believe there was a son born but given up for adoption - info was never clear)… 5. Gwenneth married James Knopp 6. Ethel Kate (my great grandmother) married Ernest Victor Buckoke. They had two girls, Violet Ethel (my grandmother born 1915) and Joan Mildred. Violet (known also as Pat) married Ronald Wiliiam Midcalf and they had a son and daughter, Graham Douglas and Avrill Elaine. Joan married Peter Willows and had two sons, Murray and Duncan. Graham married Maria Elizabeth and had three children, Shareen, Marie Louise and Nathan. He later divorced Maria and married Ruth. Shareen married Colin Baker and they have two children, Morgan Kenya and Hudson James Avrill married Darryl Raymond Woodley and had a daughter, Lauren. They divorced and Avrill married Wessel Jacobus Ingram. Lauren married Matthew David William Ayers and (we) have two boys, Jonathan Matthew and Dale Michael. Murray married Heather Bell and they have two children, Shaun Barry and Kelly Shannon Shaun married Natalie Graham Kelly married Gregor Wilson and they have a son, Brody Cooper. Duncan married Rebecca and they have three children, Alexander Harrison, Georgia Elizabeth and Marcus Gabriel. I also have a few names but little info: Raymond Sidney Lovelock Thomas William Lovelock who married Edith Jones between Jan and March 1874. Hope this helps clear up some info… Regards, Lauren.

Hi Graham Joan Mildred Buckoke was my great-aunt (sister of my grandmother, Violet Ethel Midcalf, known as Pat), known to us as Penny. She married Peter Willows in 1951 and lived in Barkingside, London. She had two boys - Murray and Duncan. She passed away around the end of 2009. Hope this is helpful - she was a lovely lady, determined, kind but firm and a big Scrabble lover! Regards, Lauren Ayers

..... which is to say, that I find it curious but you may (be able to) take a different view. If you check Free BMD Birth entries from 1837 to 1876 you will not find a single Louisa Charlotte Lovelock. However, on 25 June 1874 Louisa Charlotte the daughter of William and Elizabeth (nee Dear) Lovelock of Greenhill was baptised in the church of St Mary, Harrow, Middlesex. It had been concluded that the girl in question was registered at birth as just Louisa - as per the Apr-Jun 1874 entry in the Hendon RD (ref 3a 111) - and the GRO Online Index now confirms that her mother's maiden name was indeed Dear. William and Elizabeth had had another daughter in 1872 that they named Louisa, but she died alas in 1873. It would seem that the couple decided on the additional 'Charlotte' between registering the birth and the baptism. William died in 1876 and Elizabeth re-married in 1878 to a James Blunt. Recorded as just plain Louisa the subject of this message was with James and Elizabeth in 1881, as James' step-daughter, born in Greenford Green. By 1891 she had entered into 'Service' and was with the Golding family in Greenford Magna, but this time with Greenhill as her birthplace. Moving on to 1901 we reach the point where my curiosity was piqued, and perhaps yours will be, too. We currently have Louisa recorded as the 25-year-old wife of William Reading, born in Greenford, and living in Eltham in Southeast London. With them was a son Herbert W, recorded as being 8 years old, although this should have been 8 months. But now that we can check Herbert's birth entry in the GRO Online Index we find that his mother's maiden name was Betts, and sure enough the birth of a Louisa Betts in Jan-Mar 1876 was recorded in the Brentford RD, which includes Greenford. And for good measure the maiden name of the mother of Herbert's four siblings is also recorded as Betts. I shall thus be deleting the 1901 and 1911 entries that we currently have for Louisa Charlotte Lovelock. And in their place? Well, having said that Free BMD has no birth entry for a Louisa Charlotte, it does have one marriage entry: Paddington RD, Apr-Jun 1892, Louisa Charlotte Lovelock married Ferdinand Victor Toussaint Thomas. Which leads us to an entry for 28 Station Road, Walthamstow, Essex in 1901, where we find: Fredk Thomas;Head;37;Grocer;Brighton, Sussex Louisa Thomas;Wife;27;;Greenhill, Middx Victor J Thomas;Son;11mos;Walthamstow, Essex Fernand Thomas;Son;1mo;;Walthamstow, Essex Elizbth Thomas;M i law, Wid;60;;Roxeth, Middx Annie Thomas;Assisnt;24;Shop Assnt Grocer;Eastcote, Middx A notable situation for more reasons than one. Having been childless for the first 7 years or so of their marriage Frederick and Louisa then managed to produce two sons in apparently 10 months. But why is Elizabeth Thomas recorded as Frederick's Mother in law, as there is no record of Elizabeth Blunt (or Lovelock, or Dear if she chose to go back to one of those names) marrying anyone with the surname Thomas in the gap between 1891 (when Elizabeth Blunt is recorded as a Widow) and 1901? And what of Annie? Could she be a sister, or a step-sister? Well, there is a birth entry for Annie Thomas in the Brentford RD in Jul-Sep 1876 which appears to be the young lady in question, but her mother's maiden name was Dear. She might be the daughter of John Thomas and Elizabeth Dear who married in 1872 in the Brentford RD ..... but another Elizabeth Dear? That hardly helps. By 1911 Frederick had decided to call himself Fernand Victor Thomas again, and had given up the grocery trade to become a Law Clerk. Louisa seems to have taken over their grocery business. But the 1911 Census entry raises yet another puzzle. The couple declare they have had 5 children of whom one has died, but the GRO Online Index only identifies 4 births where the mother's maiden name was Lovelock. And then ..... the whole family seem to disappear. There was the death of a Louisa C T Thomas in the Brentford RD in 1945 at the age of 71, but with that third forename indicated could it actually be Louisa Charlotte? A curious case? Regards, Graham

Hello all, We previously had a few scant details of two Lovelock casualties from the Second Boer War. Thanks to a report in the 'Manchester Evening News' of 12 Feb 1881 we now know of a casualty from the First Boer War. The details are accessible here: http://lovelock.free.fr/documents/Boer-War-Casualties.html If anyone has any suggestions for who the man might be please let us know. Regards, Graham [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>

Hello all, The GRO Online Index of Births does it again, and again it doesn't. That is to say, it reveals that the maiden name of the Patrick Levelock (sic) born in Manchester RD in Oct-Dec 1867 was Scriney, thus enabling the completion of the name of the lady who married the progenitor of our Irish Fragment A: http://lovelock.free.fr/documents/irish-descendant-fragments.html That enables us to find the marriage in 1865 of Bridget Scriney and Michael Lovelock, although he is recorded as Michael Livelock, just one more of the variations the Manchester Lovelock records seem to be subject to. And so to the puzzle. In 1871 Michael and Bridget were recorded in Oriel Street in Liverpool, together with daughters Catherine, aged 10, and Sarah A, aged 2. If one persists in checking variations one will eventually find Sarah Ann's birth in Jul-Sep 1869, with the surname Levelock, mother's name Scriney. Catherine takes a little more searching, but she eventually apparently comes to light as Catherine Lavlock, born in Oct-Dec 1860. However, this particular young lady's mother's maiden name (this is where the GRO Online Index doesn't help) is recorded as Mullen. Michael and Bridget had 4 more daughters: Margaret Jane (Levelock), Honora (Levalock), Mary Ellen (Levelock) and another Catherine (unusually registered as Lovelock!), with the mother's maiden name being recorded as Seriney, Scriney, Scriney and Scriney respectively. So we may conclude on balance that Bridget was Bridget Scriney. In 1861 she was a Servant to a Beer House Keeper in Manchester, recorded as Bridget Scrinea. So what are we to make of the Catherine born in 1860? In 1881 she was recorded as Catherine Lovelock, a Factory Hand boarding in Bradford with the McGrail family, and she died unmarried in the Prestwich RD (which included both Bradford and Manchester) in 1882, being buried in the Philips Park Cemetery, Manchester on 25 February. If she was Bridget's daughter why was her mother's maiden name recorded as Mullen? Mind you, there are some other oddities associated with Bridget. She appears to be the 4 year old, Ireland born, recorded in Manchester in 1851, and if so she was the daughter of another Bridget, who was apparently at the time a 30 year old married woman, also born in Ireland. Her husband was not recorded as part of the household. But who then was the Bridget Scriney who married John Gaffany on 28 July 1851 at St Peters, Ashton Under Lyne, declaring herself to be a spinster, of full age, the daughter of Peter Scriney? And after that ..... ? Free BMD has only 5 Scriney marriages between 1838 and 1901, all of them ladies. The name would appear to be unequivocally Irish in origin, with families of the name arriving in England in the 1840s perhaps, possibly as a result of the Great Famine. Regards, Graham

Hello all, Free BMD has the marriage in the Hillingdon RD in Jan-Mar 1981 of Ronald Lovelock and Hazel Lovelock. Alas the entry also rather confusingly states that Ronald Lovelock married Hazel Phillips. The transcription from the scan that was used is absolutely correct. There are only 3 Hazel Lovelock births in Free BMD from 1880 to 1965: Hazel V in Oct-Dec 1923 Hazel L in Oct-Dec 1927 Hazel in Apr-Jun 1937 The young lady born in 1937 unfortunately died in 1939, and there are marriage entries for the other two. I concluded that Hazel Phillips had at some point married another Lovelock, and for some reason her marriage to Ronald was recorded under both her maiden and previously-married names. But the only Lovelock-Phillips marriage in Free BMD is that of Ronald and Hazel. One of the unidentified testators in our Probate data is the Hazel Lovelock who died on 29 Jan 2005. Is she the lady who married Ronald? Her date of birth is recorded in the death registration entry as 19 Nov 1922, but you will have guessed that there is no birth entry in the last quarter of 1922 or the first quarter of 1923 of either a Hazel Lovelock or Hazel Phillips. A Hazel K Phillips was born in the 1923 quarter but she subsequently married a Mr Burnett. Can anyone throw any light on the origins of the participants in the 1981 marriage? Regards, Graham [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>

Hello all, Free BMD has the marriage in the Hillingdon RD in Jan-Mar 1981 of Ronald Lovelock and Hazel Lovelock. Alas the entry also rather confusingly states that Ronald Lovelock married Hazel Phillips. The transcription from the scan that was used is absolutely correct. There are only 3 Hazel Lovelock births in Free BMD from 1880 to 1965: Hazel V in Oct-Dec 1923 Hazel L in Oct-Dec 1927 Hazel in Apr-Jun 1937 The young lady born in 1937 unfortunately died in 1939, and there are marriage entries for the other two. I concluded that Hazel Phillips had at some point married another Lovelock, and for some reason her marriage to Ronald was recorded under both her maiden and previously-married names. But the only Lovelock-Phillips marriage in Free BMD is that of Ronald and Hazel. One of the unidentified testators in our Probate data is the Hazel Lovelock who died on 29 Jan 2005. Is she the lady who married Ronald? Her date of birth is recorded in the death registration entry as 19 Nov 1922, but you will have guessed that there is no birth entry in the last quarter of 1922 or the first quarter of 1923 of either a Hazel Lovelock or Hazel Phillips. A Hazel K Phillips was born in the 1923 quarter but she subsequently married a Mr Burnett. Can anyone throw any light on the origins of the participants in the 1981 marriage? Regards, Graham

Hello all, At 4 Brants Walk, Ealing, Middlesex in 1939 lived Leonard and May L Lovelock. Leonard and May Lilian were cousins who had married in 1921, and are members of the Second St Pancras Tree. Also at 4 Brants Walk were two persons the subject of 'officially closed records'. I believe they may be daughters of Leonard and May, and still living, I suspect. If anyone can confirm their identities please contact me off-list. As a matter of interest, also at 4 Brants Walk was a fifth person - Joan Mildred Buckoke, born 29 Feb 1925, and therefore, according to the calendar, only 3 years old! The reason I mention Joan, apart from her birthdate, is that when her birth was registered her mother's maiden name was recorded as Lovelock. This was a mistake, as her mother was actually Florence Agnes Berry - the mother of Leonard by her first marriage, and Joan was therefore Leonard's half-sister. Regards, Graham PS Congratulations if you have spotted the deliberate mistake above!

Hello all, In Apr-Jun 1941 Olive Lovelock from the Second St Pancras Tree married Douglas M Corke. This is consistent with the 1939 Register entry for Olive, which shows that she was later to marry someone named Corke (although you will find that Findmypast have her indexed as Alice having not yet implemented the correction I have submitted). Olive was still living with her parents in Wembley, Middlesex. Not far away, in Croydon, is a household consisting of Dorris F Corke, born 30 Dec 1890, Douglas M Corke, born 11 Jun 1914, and Angus G Corke, born 11 Feb 1918. A quick check with Free BMD reveals that Dorris F Frisby married Norman R Corke in the Croydon RD in Apr-Jun 1913. Checking further in Free BMD shows that Norman and Dorris had but two children: Alister Percy born Jul-Sep 1915 and Angus G born Jan-Mar 1918, both born in the Croydon RD. There is no record of the death of Alister P Corke between 1915 and 1940, and he does not appear in the 1939 Register. You can probably guess what's coming next. There is no record of the death of a Douglas M or Alister P Corke, nor of any Corke born on 11 Jun 1914 or 11 Jun 1915. Just as puzzling is that there is no death entry for Olive either. Can anyone confirm that Alister Percy Corke changed his name to Douglas M Corke, and tell us what became of him and his wife? Regards, Graham

Oh, this is definitely the right track, Ian. A Kathleen M L Wallace was born in the Portsmouth RD in Oct-Dec 1917, and both the death entry and the 1939 Register give her date of birth as 21 Sep 1917. In addition the 1939 entry includes Mary H Gear who was Kathleen's mother. I have made another search in Ancestry's records and find that I somehow missed the death of the man I presume was Kathleen's second husband: William Robert A Lovelock died on the Isle of Wight in September 1991, and the death entry gives his date of birth as 2 Jul 1912. Alas, that doesn't seem to help as neither Free BMD nor the GRO Online Birth Index have any such entry. Of course, he could have been born abroad, and, as he also does not appear in the 1939 Register, perhaps he was in the Services. He is not included in our collection of Overseas Births. Regards, Graham ________________________________ From: Ian Lovelock <ianlovelock@hotmail.com> Sent: 11 November 2018 17:23 To: Lovelock family history Subject: [LOVELOCK] Re: Plugging a gap ... Hi Graham Uncovered this marriage entry but not sure i'm on the right track: [cid:0e3e34e3-bb25-46ee-a53e-a61dd2dfe785] Best wishes Ian ________________________________ From: Graham Lovelock <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com> Sent: 11 November 2018 10:13 To: Lovelock mailing list Subject: [LOVELOCK] Plugging a gap ... Hello all, Trying to solve one of the outstanding non-attributed testators ..... Kathleen Mary Lovelock died on 28 Nov 2002, with Winchester as the Probate Registry. Could she be the Kathleen M L Cove who married William R A Lovelock in the Southampton RD in Apr-Jun 1974? If so the 1939 Register reveals that Cove was her previously-married name. If this is the right Kathleen, the next problem is who her husband was. There is no birth or death of a William R A Lovelock in the online records. Any help always appreciated. Regards, Graham _______________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flovelock.free.fr%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=%2BmcCpNA85PKIzl8VzFERyGMP7kWSj6PhgxYgf566dJE%3D&amp;reserved=0 Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Floveluck.net%2FLovelockTrees%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=KBlZxzIiSY%2B%2FHk7IhpjEcvFP8D6FVsvrQrXV0n0ssQo%3D&amp;reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=TDrddxJYe7aDCRUC5vcW8H2WxeOGE0SVxBbD2IwErt8%3D&amp;reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Flovelock%40rootsweb.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=76AIQORukY8yj4RXwDUoelVUDlb9b%2FOol7VdB6HHaOY%3D&amp;reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=HVzTuIvXg%2BhMYVejtT57eonf5HM5IkexCJ2IMbuJdH0%3D&amp;reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=eZo1KygBKMLlYtBxUiXQ%2BFEFqsE5nqDtXMgoQMNp1So%3D&amp;reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=NFJgtW6pPpeiFsepUuFA%2BgUyl1hhkoTOUdmJnaYaSOU%3D&amp;reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Graham Uncovered this marriage entry but not sure i'm on the right track: [cid:0e3e34e3-bb25-46ee-a53e-a61dd2dfe785] Best wishes Ian ________________________________ From: Graham Lovelock <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com> Sent: 11 November 2018 10:13 To: Lovelock mailing list Subject: [LOVELOCK] Plugging a gap ... Hello all, Trying to solve one of the outstanding non-attributed testators ..... Kathleen Mary Lovelock died on 28 Nov 2002, with Winchester as the Probate Registry. Could she be the Kathleen M L Cove who married William R A Lovelock in the Southampton RD in Apr-Jun 1974? If so the 1939 Register reveals that Cove was her previously-married name. If this is the right Kathleen, the next problem is who her husband was. There is no birth or death of a William R A Lovelock in the online records. Any help always appreciated. Regards, Graham _______________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flovelock.free.fr%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=%2BmcCpNA85PKIzl8VzFERyGMP7kWSj6PhgxYgf566dJE%3D&amp;reserved=0 Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Floveluck.net%2FLovelockTrees%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=KBlZxzIiSY%2B%2FHk7IhpjEcvFP8D6FVsvrQrXV0n0ssQo%3D&amp;reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=TDrddxJYe7aDCRUC5vcW8H2WxeOGE0SVxBbD2IwErt8%3D&amp;reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Flovelock%40rootsweb.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=76AIQORukY8yj4RXwDUoelVUDlb9b%2FOol7VdB6HHaOY%3D&amp;reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=HVzTuIvXg%2BhMYVejtT57eonf5HM5IkexCJ2IMbuJdH0%3D&amp;reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=eZo1KygBKMLlYtBxUiXQ%2BFEFqsE5nqDtXMgoQMNp1So%3D&amp;reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2ad127a2eaf4fe5e59508d647be634b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636775280370009230&amp;sdata=NFJgtW6pPpeiFsepUuFA%2BgUyl1hhkoTOUdmJnaYaSOU%3D&amp;reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello all, Trying to solve one of the outstanding non-attributed testators ..... Kathleen Mary Lovelock died on 28 Nov 2002, with Winchester as the Probate Registry. Could she be the Kathleen M L Cove who married William R A Lovelock in the Southampton RD in Apr-Jun 1974? If so the 1939 Register reveals that Cove was her previously-married name. If this is the right Kathleen, the next problem is who her husband was. There is no birth or death of a William R A Lovelock in the online records. Any help always appreciated. Regards, Graham

Hello Graham. I am a member of the Farnham tree. My line is Stephen to William to Thomas and then back to William then Stephen to me. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Graham Lovelock Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 6:22 AM To: Lovelock mailing list Subject: [LOVELOCK] FARNHAM TREE Hello all, Is anyone on the Mailing List a member of the Farnham Tree? Regards, Graham _______________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: http://lovelock.free.fr/ Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lovelock@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello all, Is anyone on the Mailing List a member of the Farnham Tree? Regards, Graham

Thanks very much, Mick. Appropriate amendments made. Only 65 more to go! Regards, Graham ________________________________ From: Michael Lovelock <michael.lovelock@hotmail.co.uk> Sent: 06 November 2018 17:06 To: Lovelock family history Subject: [LOVELOCK] Re: Lovelock Wills 1996 to 2018 Hello Graham The Violet Lovelock in the Wills List who died 6th October 2009 was my mother. She married William Henry Lovelock b 11 Nov 1926 died 16 Oct 2004 on 21 June 1952. They are both included in the Tangley Tree - my mother by her maiden name Violet Lovell. The extract is: 7-William Henry Lovelock b. 11 Nov 1922, d. Oct 2004 +Violet Lovell Hope this helps. Regards Mick Lovelock ________________________________ From: Graham Lovelock <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com> Sent: 06 November 2018 12:04 To: Lovelock mailing list Subject: [LOVELOCK] Lovelock Wills 1996 to 2018 Hello all, The details of all the LovelOck wills that are referenced on the 'Find A Will' website have been updated so that where we have been able to identify the testator their name is now linked to the appropriate entry in the gedcoms at Webtrees: http://lovelock.free.fr/documents/Wills%20from%201996%20onwards.html Wills from 1996 onwards<http://lovelock.free.fr/documents/Wills%20from%201996%20onwards.html> lovelock.free.fr Lovelock Family History web site Wills from 1996 onwards<http://lovelock.free.fr/documents/Wills%20from%201996%20onwards.html> lovelock.free.fr Lovelock Family History web site There are still 69 entries unattributed, which seems a little surprising considering how recent they all are. If you can identify any of the 69 please let me know and I will make the necessary amendments. Regards, Graham _______________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: http://lovelock.free.fr/ Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lovelock@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: http://lovelock.free.fr/ Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lovelock@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Graham The Violet Lovelock in the Wills List who died 6th October 2009 was my mother. She married William Henry Lovelock b 11 Nov 1926 died 16 Oct 2004 on 21 June 1952. They are both included in the Tangley Tree - my mother by her maiden name Violet Lovell. The extract is: 7-William Henry Lovelock b. 11 Nov 1922, d. Oct 2004 +Violet Lovell Hope this helps. Regards Mick Lovelock ________________________________ From: Graham Lovelock <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com> Sent: 06 November 2018 12:04 To: Lovelock mailing list Subject: [LOVELOCK] Lovelock Wills 1996 to 2018 Hello all, The details of all the LovelOck wills that are referenced on the 'Find A Will' website have been updated so that where we have been able to identify the testator their name is now linked to the appropriate entry in the gedcoms at Webtrees: http://lovelock.free.fr/documents/Wills%20from%201996%20onwards.html Wills from 1996 onwards<http://lovelock.free.fr/documents/Wills%20from%201996%20onwards.html> lovelock.free.fr Lovelock Family History web site There are still 69 entries unattributed, which seems a little surprising considering how recent they all are. If you can identify any of the 69 please let me know and I will make the necessary amendments. Regards, Graham _______________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: http://lovelock.free.fr/ Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/lovelock@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community