Hello all, Our small collection of Irish records includes the marriage in Belfast on 4 Sep 1909 of Cormack Rooney and Mary Jane Cunningham. Mary Jane's father is named as George Lovelock, Gardener, and she was recorded as a widow. A Mary Jane Lovelock may have married Francis Cunningham in the Devizes RD in Jan-Mar 1882. Does anyone know if the Mary Jane in each event is the same lady, and if so what her origins were? Regards, Graham
Hi, folks,I've forgotten exactly when this thread first started some years ago. James was the 'Lieflock' progenitor of the Armidale Lovelock family. In our last newsletter there was an article about Vera Lovelock (wife of Bill Lovelock) in that remarkable line of Anairwan Aboriginals. And yes, they descend from the first of James' two unions, in this case with the woman nicknamed Cockroach. After that there was another union with a half-caste woman whose descendants now count as 'white'. The one in that line with whom I've been in contact is Robyn Hand who has told me, among other things, that there have been several rugger players on her side of the family. James, originally from Wootton Rivers, arrived in New South Wales in 1835 convicted of sheep stealing (I think). There are place names around Kempsey NSW associated with him including Lovelock Creek, from which he was said to have saved the local vicar from drowning, and Lovelock Farm, later associated with the Powick family from Worcestershire. I've been in touch with many in Vera's family for years; it was they who first told me of their descent from James and the thread concerning him started when I passed that information on to the family historians on Roots Web. I've long wished that more research could be done to make the picture clearer. One inhibiting factor is Oz law. Only Aboriginals can look up their family history, but they're barred from looking at White connections, whereas Whites are likewise restricted to their records, so in a case where there is a mixed line there is always going to be a barrier interfering. One of my Facebook albums is devoted to Lovelock place names in the southern hemisphere here - https://www.facebook.com/yann.lovelock/media_set?set=a.10152696097167476.1073741835.685097475&type=3 The first two photos there are of the Armidale Lovelocks gathered when a park there was named after Vera. The other five are of Lovelock Creek and the country through which it flows, two of which were taken for me by Robyn. As a Lieflock myself, I particularly value this connection and would be very grateful if the story could be filled out further. Yann From: Geoff Simpson <Geoff.Simpson@environment.nsw.gov.au> To: Graham Lovelock <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com> Cc: "lovelock@rootsweb.com" <lovelock@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 10 March 2017, 15:12 Subject: Re: [LOVELOCK] James Lovelock Graham My brother Rod was at an Aboriginal Rugby League carnival last year and typed his name into a native title based organisation that traces family trees. According to their records - Our Nan (Ivy Henry's) father was Herbert Henry. His mum was Matilda Lovelock whose father was William Lovelock. Williams father was James Lovelock whose wife was an Aboriginal lady known only as cockroach. Did you know any of that at all? Sent from my iPhone On 9 Mar 2017, at 10:03 pm, Graham Lovelock <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com<mailto:lovelockgraham@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello Geoff, Where we think it ends up starts from here: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/individual.php?pid=I2952&ged=wilts-trees1 Of course we may not have the full story, so I for one am all ears as to what you can add. Regards, Graham ________________________________ From: Geoff Simpson <Geoff.Simpson@environment.nsw.gov.au<mailto:Geoff.Simpson@environment.nsw.gov.au>> Sent: 09 March 2017 06:04 To: lovelockgraham@hotmail.com<mailto:lovelockgraham@hotmail.com>; colinbm1@bigpond.com<mailto:colinbm1@bigpond.com>; lovelock@rootsweb.com<mailto:lovelock@rootsweb.com> Subject: James Lovelock James Lovelock born 1795 in England and died in Rollands Plains 1862 is my nans Great great grandfather I think. I’ve just googled Lovelock and found some stuff in the Lovelock archives and there are a few email addresses from 2010 which has led to you guys. Interested to see where it ends up? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email is intended for the addressee(s) named and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and then delete it immediately. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly and with authority states them to be the views of the NSW Office of Environment and Heritage. PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE PRINTING THIS EMAIL ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: http://lovelock.free.fr/ Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
We know, Geoff, that William's mother was known as Cockroach as that appears on his marriage certificate apparently. We also have 'Annie' as James' wifes' name, but no source is quoted for that. Also we have no record of Matilda. Graham ________________________________ From: Geoff Simpson <Geoff.Simpson@environment.nsw.gov.au> Sent: 09 March 2017 11:24 To: Graham Lovelock Cc: colinbm1@bigpond.com; lovelock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: James Lovelock Graham My brother Rod was at an Aboriginal Rugby League carnival last year and typed his name into a native title based organisation that traces family trees. According to their records - Our Nan (Ivy Henry's) father was Herbert Henry. His mum was Matilda Lovelock whose father was William Lovelock. Williams father was James Lovelock whose wife was an Aboriginal lady known only as cockroach. Did you know any of that at all? Sent from my iPhone On 9 Mar 2017, at 10:03 pm, Graham Lovelock <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com<mailto:lovelockgraham@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello Geoff, Where we think it ends up starts from here: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/individual.php?pid=I2952&ged=wilts-trees1 Of course we may not have the full story, so I for one am all ears as to what you can add. Regards, Graham ________________________________ From: Geoff Simpson <Geoff.Simpson@environment.nsw.gov.au<mailto:Geoff.Simpson@environment.nsw.gov.au>> Sent: 09 March 2017 06:04 To: lovelockgraham@hotmail.com<mailto:lovelockgraham@hotmail.com>; colinbm1@bigpond.com<mailto:colinbm1@bigpond.com>; lovelock@rootsweb.com<mailto:lovelock@rootsweb.com> Subject: James Lovelock James Lovelock born 1795 in England and died in Rollands Plains 1862 is my nans Great great grandfather I think. I’ve just googled Lovelock and found some stuff in the Lovelock archives and there are a few email addresses from 2010 which has led to you guys. Interested to see where it ends up? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email is intended for the addressee(s) named and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and then delete it immediately. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly and with authority states them to be the views of the NSW Office of Environment and Heritage. PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE PRINTING THIS EMAIL
Graham My brother Rod was at an Aboriginal Rugby League carnival last year and typed his name into a native title based organisation that traces family trees. According to their records - Our Nan (Ivy Henry's) father was Herbert Henry. His mum was Matilda Lovelock whose father was William Lovelock. Williams father was James Lovelock whose wife was an Aboriginal lady known only as cockroach. Did you know any of that at all? Sent from my iPhone On 9 Mar 2017, at 10:03 pm, Graham Lovelock <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com<mailto:lovelockgraham@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello Geoff, Where we think it ends up starts from here: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/individual.php?pid=I2952&ged=wilts-trees1 Of course we may not have the full story, so I for one am all ears as to what you can add. Regards, Graham ________________________________ From: Geoff Simpson <Geoff.Simpson@environment.nsw.gov.au<mailto:Geoff.Simpson@environment.nsw.gov.au>> Sent: 09 March 2017 06:04 To: lovelockgraham@hotmail.com<mailto:lovelockgraham@hotmail.com>; colinbm1@bigpond.com<mailto:colinbm1@bigpond.com>; lovelock@rootsweb.com<mailto:lovelock@rootsweb.com> Subject: James Lovelock James Lovelock born 1795 in England and died in Rollands Plains 1862 is my nans Great great grandfather I think. I’ve just googled Lovelock and found some stuff in the Lovelock archives and there are a few email addresses from 2010 which has led to you guys. Interested to see where it ends up? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email is intended for the addressee(s) named and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and then delete it immediately. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly and with authority states them to be the views of the NSW Office of Environment and Heritage. PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE PRINTING THIS EMAIL
Hello Geoff, Where we think it ends up starts from here: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/individual.php?pid=I2952&ged=wilts-trees1 Of course we may not have the full story, so I for one am all ears as to what you can add. Regards, Graham ________________________________ From: Geoff Simpson <Geoff.Simpson@environment.nsw.gov.au> Sent: 09 March 2017 06:04 To: lovelockgraham@hotmail.com; colinbm1@bigpond.com; lovelock@rootsweb.com Subject: James Lovelock James Lovelock born 1795 in England and died in Rollands Plains 1862 is my nans Great great grandfather I think. I’ve just googled Lovelock and found some stuff in the Lovelock archives and there are a few email addresses from 2010 which has led to you guys. Interested to see where it ends up?
James Lovelock born 1795 in England and died in Rollands Plains 1862 is my nans Great great grandfather I think. I've just googled Lovelock and found some stuff in the Lovelock archives and there are a few email addresses from 2010 which has led to you guys. Interested to see where it ends up? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email is intended for the addressee(s) named and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and then delete it immediately. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly and with authority states them to be the views of the NSW Office of Environment and Heritage. PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE PRINTING THIS EMAIL
Hello all, John Albert Lovelock died on 30 May 1993. He was born on 17 Sep 1908, and the GRO entry gives his mother's maiden name as King. The most likely marriage of his parents would appear to be that of Charles John Lovelock and Alice King in the Brentford RD in Apr-Jun 1900. I have been unable to identify Charles and Alice in either of the 1901 or 1911 Census Returns or in the 1939 Register. The latter does have a Chas J Lovelock who claimed to have been born on 28 Feb 1871 (the only Charles J in the Register old enough to have married in 1900), but there is no corresponding Free BMD birth entry. In fact there is no record of the birth of a Charles John Lovelock anywhere between 1850 and 1884, and the only John C (checking in case he reversed his forenames) was a John Clifford. The death of a Charles J aged 63 was recorded in the Brentford RD in Oct-Dec 1922 indicating a birth in 1859, which would explain the absence of Charles John from the 1939 Register, but not much else. An Alice J Lovelock aged 70 died in the Brentford RD in 1933, but if she was the wife of Charles her birth is not identifiable from just that. Can anyone throw any light on these mysteries? Regards, Graham
Hello Ken, How good to hear from you after what must be a number of years. Some fascinating ideas that you have put forward. However, with respect to James born in 1839 it seems that his mother's maiden name was recorded in the birth entry as Eyles, so it would appear that Hannah must indeed have been the mother. If Ann was using that surname at the time, James would not have been registered as a Lovelock, unless the father was a Lovelock and they convinced the Registrar to record the birth so. Obviously we would need a copy of the birth certificate to know for sure. I wonder how nobody had picked up on the Fleet Street baptism of Ann before? I spent a few years working in a building right next door to St Bride's, and our regular watering hole was The Od Bell which it is claimed was originally built to service the men who built the church. Both are still there. It seems very odd that the baptism took place there. One presumes that Hannah was in service somewhere in the parish, and James might also have been employed locally, but they must have felt a tug from their roots to take them back to Wiltshire not long afterwards. At least we now know why in the 1841 Census Ann declared that she had not been born in Wiltshire. Illegitimacy was so common in the early 19th Century that it may well not have been a reason for Sarah to apparently go un-baptised, so perhaps the entry has just not been deciphered from some poor handwriting, and the move from Wilcot to Pewsey was possibly more to do with James' trade than with trying to 'hide' a birth. Moving barely a mile and a half would have been unlikely to still any gossip, especially as Pewsey would have been the market town for Wilcot, so people from both would mingle on a regular basis. The Removal Order case is interesting, if difficult for me to understand. It looks as though Ann was born in Enford, settled in Wootton Rivers, but then became a burden on the Parish so they first of all wanted her moved back to Enford and then wanted her moved to Pewsey Workhouse. Wooton Rivers and Enford were both part of the Pewsey Union. This may be totally unconnected, but we have a record of Ann Lovelock 'of this parish' marrying James Turner at Collingbourne Kingston on 26 December 1846. In 1851 the couple were living in Enford, Ann aged 36 and born in Collingbourn, but in 1861 she was 46 and born in Enford. No trace of her in 1841, alas. Speculation is so hard to resist. Thank you for the compliment regarding the website, Ken - I do what I can. I think James will do the necessary regarding your new e-Mail address. Kind regards, Graham ________________________________ From: LOVELOCK <lovelock-bounces+lovelockgraham=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of SUE LOVELOCK <lovelocks6@btinternet.com> Sent: 25 February 2017 13:53 To: kenjoy13@outlook.com Cc: Lovelock List Subject: Re: [LOVELOCK] Ann Lovelock Eyles - a snippet Hi Ken, Many thanks for all the information. As you suggest, your data does raise some interesting questions (as happens all too often!). I'm not related to Ann Lovelock Eyles (my husband is a member of the Lyneham line), but I am interested in all the Lovelock family history research. It's really great to know that the snippet I found was of interest to someone on the mailing list. Kind regards Sue ----Original message---- >From : kenjoy13@outlook.com Date : 25/02/2017 - 12:03 (GMTST) To : lovelocks6@btinternet.com, lovelock@rootsweb.com Subject : Re Ann Lovelock Eyles - a snippet Hi all, Thank you Sue for finding that article about Ann Lovelock Eyles. She married John Dickman in 1840. Ann died during the voyage to Australia in 1855 & John remarried Ann's sister Jane in 1856. Note Ann's Marriage Certificate shows her name as Ann Lovelock Eyeles. In my opinion Ann was born on the 27/12/1817 and baptised on the 5/1/1818 at St Bride Fleet Street London with her parents recorded as James Loveluk & Hannah Eyley, whereas it should have given their names as James Lovelock & Hannah Eyles. I have James & Hannah's children as follows:- 1. Ann Lovelock Eyeles, born 27/12/1817, baptized 5/1/1818 St Bride Fleet Street London. Parents James Loveluk & Hannah Eyley 2. Maurice Lovelock c 16/4/1820 at Wilcot 3. William Lovelock c 5/5/1822 at Wilcot Buried 11/9/1841, aged 19 per the Lovelock Internet Site. 4. Mary Lovelock c 21/2/1824 at Wilcot, Buried 26/2/1838, aged 14 per the Lovelock Internet Site. 5. Martha Lovelock c 4/3/1827 at Wilcot. 6. Harriet Lovelock c 27/9/1830 at Wilcot 7. Jane Lovelock c 29/10/1832 at Wilcot Other Children 1. Sarah Lovelock born about 1835 no baptism found, buried 11/9/1841 per the Lovelock Internet Site.(aged 6-Wiltshire death index). 2. James Lovelock birth registered Dec Qtr 1839. 1.Hannah Lovelock was aged 45 when James Lovelock's birth was registered in 1839. Ann Lovelock was aged 21. Therefore it could be argued the mother of James Lovelock was Ann Lovelock due to the age of Hannah & Ann. 2. Sarah Lovelock was born about 1835.Hannah Lovelock was about 41 in 1835 & Ann Lovelock was about 17. It could also be argued due to the age of Hannah & Ann, Ann could also be the mother of Sarah, plus as no baptism seemed to have occurred could suggest the birth’s mother didn’t wish to be published. Between the baptism of Jane Lovelock in 1832 and the 1841 census the Lovelock family had relocated from Wilcot to Hollybush Lane Pewsey, which could have been due to the illegitimate birth of of Sarah Lovelock. Ann Lovelock married John Dickman on the 14/11/1840 at Pewsey & named their first daughter Sarah in 1843 & second son James in 1845. It could be conjectured they were named after Ann’s first two children about 1835 & 1839. For awhile I wondered was the above Ann Lovelock the girl mentioned in the following Removal Order below, but I don't think this is the case:- Wiltshire Rover Index. (Microfiche index, published Wiltshire FHS) NB - First Place mentioned is parish initiating document. Second (if mentioned) is place moved to (removal order) or birthplace. LOVELOCK, Ann. 1837, Removal Order. Wotton Rivers, Enford . LOVELOCK, Ann. 1838, Settlement Examination. Wotton Rivers, Enford. Age 22, single woman, servant, now with child. LOVELOCK, Ann 1838, Removal Order. Wotton Rivers, Pewsey Union. There were only 3 registered births of a Lovelock in the Pewsey area in the period from 1838. They were:- Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1838 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference LOVELOCK George Collingbourne History Centre HILLIER COLL/1/141 Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1839 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference LOVELOCK Henry Collingbourne History Centre YEATES COLL/1/478 LOVELOCK James Collingbourne History Centre EYLES COLL/1/473 1. The age of Ann Lovelock mentioned in the Removal Order states she was 22. Ann was 20 in 1838. 2. The birth of the child mentioned in the Removal Order could have been never officially registered. 3. The birth of the child mentioned in the Removal Order could have been a still birth & therefore not registered. Sue and Malcolm are you related to Ann Lovelock Eyles? I'm a direct descendant of John Dickman who married both Ann & Jane Lovelock. Ann was only known as Lovelock Eyles as her parents didn't marry until after Ann was born. Sue thanks again for the newspaper article. Regards Ken Dickman, Melbourne Australia. kenjoy13@outlook.com PS - Graham, the work you do for the Lovelock site is wonderful. If possible could you please change my email address from kenjoy13@hotkey.net.au to kenjoy13@outlook.com - Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: http://lovelock.free.fr/ Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Ken, Many thanks for all the information. As you suggest, your data does raise some interesting questions (as happens all too often!). I'm not related to Ann Lovelock Eyles (my husband is a member of the Lyneham line), but I am interested in all the Lovelock family history research. It's really great to know that the snippet I found was of interest to someone on the mailing list. Kind regards Sue ----Original message---- >From : kenjoy13@outlook.com Date : 25/02/2017 - 12:03 (GMTST) To : lovelocks6@btinternet.com, lovelock@rootsweb.com Subject : Re Ann Lovelock Eyles - a snippet Hi all, Thank you Sue for finding that article about Ann Lovelock Eyles. She married John Dickman in 1840. Ann died during the voyage to Australia in 1855 & John remarried Ann's sister Jane in 1856. Note Ann's Marriage Certificate shows her name as Ann Lovelock Eyeles. In my opinion Ann was born on the 27/12/1817 and baptised on the 5/1/1818 at St Bride Fleet Street London with her parents recorded as James Loveluk & Hannah Eyley, whereas it should have given their names as James Lovelock & Hannah Eyles. I have James & Hannah's children as follows:- 1. Ann Lovelock Eyeles, born 27/12/1817, baptized 5/1/1818 St Bride Fleet Street London. Parents James Loveluk & Hannah Eyley 2. Maurice Lovelock c 16/4/1820 at Wilcot 3. William Lovelock c 5/5/1822 at Wilcot Buried 11/9/1841, aged 19 per the Lovelock Internet Site. 4. Mary Lovelock c 21/2/1824 at Wilcot, Buried 26/2/1838, aged 14 per the Lovelock Internet Site. 5. Martha Lovelock c 4/3/1827 at Wilcot. 6. Harriet Lovelock c 27/9/1830 at Wilcot 7. Jane Lovelock c 29/10/1832 at Wilcot Other Children 1. Sarah Lovelock born about 1835 no baptism found, buried 11/9/1841 per the Lovelock Internet Site.(aged 6-Wiltshire death index). 2. James Lovelock birth registered Dec Qtr 1839. 1.Hannah Lovelock was aged 45 when James Lovelock's birth was registered in 1839. Ann Lovelock was aged 21. Therefore it could be argued the mother of James Lovelock was Ann Lovelock due to the age of Hannah & Ann. 2. Sarah Lovelock was born about 1835.Hannah Lovelock was about 41 in 1835 & Ann Lovelock was about 17. It could also be argued due to the age of Hannah & Ann, Ann could also be the mother of Sarah, plus as no baptism seemed to have occurred could suggest the birth’s mother didn’t wish to be published. Between the baptism of Jane Lovelock in 1832 and the 1841 census the Lovelock family had relocated from Wilcot to Hollybush Lane Pewsey, which could have been due to the illegitimate birth of of Sarah Lovelock. Ann Lovelock married John Dickman on the 14/11/1840 at Pewsey & named their first daughter Sarah in 1843 & second son James in 1845. It could be conjectured they were named after Ann’s first two children about 1835 & 1839. For awhile I wondered was the above Ann Lovelock the girl mentioned in the following Removal Order below, but I don't think this is the case:- Wiltshire Rover Index. (Microfiche index, published Wiltshire FHS) NB - First Place mentioned is parish initiating document. Second (if mentioned) is place moved to (removal order) or birthplace. LOVELOCK, Ann. 1837, Removal Order. Wotton Rivers, Enford . LOVELOCK, Ann. 1838, Settlement Examination. Wotton Rivers, Enford. Age 22, single woman, servant, now with child. LOVELOCK, Ann 1838, Removal Order. Wotton Rivers, Pewsey Union. There were only 3 registered births of a Lovelock in the Pewsey area in the period from 1838. They were:- Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1838 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference LOVELOCK George Collingbourne History Centre HILLIER COLL/1/141 Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1839 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference LOVELOCK Henry Collingbourne History Centre YEATES COLL/1/478 LOVELOCK James Collingbourne History Centre EYLES COLL/1/473 1. The age of Ann Lovelock mentioned in the Removal Order states she was 22. Ann was 20 in 1838. 2. The birth of the child mentioned in the Removal Order could have been never officially registered. 3. The birth of the child mentioned in the Removal Order could have been a still birth & therefore not registered. Sue and Malcolm are you related to Ann Lovelock Eyles? I'm a direct descendant of John Dickman who married both Ann & Jane Lovelock. Ann was only known as Lovelock Eyles as her parents didn't marry until after Ann was born. Sue thanks again for the newspaper article. Regards Ken Dickman, Melbourne Australia. kenjoy13@outlook.com PS - Graham, the work you do for the Lovelock site is wonderful. If possible could you please change my email address from kenjoy13@hotkey.net.au to kenjoy13@outlook.com - Thank you.
Hi all, Thank you Sue for finding that article about Ann Lovelock Eyles. She married John Dickman in 1840. Ann died during the voyage to Australia in 1855 & John remarried Ann's sister Jane in 1856. Note Ann's Marriage Certificate shows her name as Ann Lovelock Eyeles. In my opinion Ann was born on the 27/12/1817 and baptised on the 5/1/1818 at St Bride Fleet Street London with her parents recorded as James Loveluk & Hannah Eyley, whereas it should have given their names as James Lovelock & Hannah Eyles. I have James & Hannah's children as follows:- 1. Ann Lovelock Eyeles, born 27/12/1817, baptized 5/1/1818 St Bride Fleet Street London. Parents James Loveluk & Hannah Eyley 2. Maurice Lovelock c 16/4/1820 at Wilcot 3. William Lovelock c 5/5/1822 at Wilcot Buried 11/9/1841, aged 19 per the Lovelock Internet Site. 4. Mary Lovelock c 21/2/1824 at Wilcot, Buried 26/2/1838, aged 14 per the Lovelock Internet Site. 5. Martha Lovelock c 4/3/1827 at Wilcot. 6. Harriet Lovelock c 27/9/1830 at Wilcot 7. Jane Lovelock c 29/10/1832 at Wilcot Other Children 1. Sarah Lovelock born about 1835 no baptism found, buried 11/9/1841 per the Lovelock Internet Site.(aged 6-Wiltshire death index). 2. James Lovelock birth registered Dec Qtr 1839. 1.Hannah Lovelock was aged 45 when James Lovelock's birth was registered in 1839. Ann Lovelock was aged 21. Therefore it could be argued the mother of James Lovelock was Ann Lovelock due to the age of Hannah & Ann. 2. Sarah Lovelock was born about 1835.Hannah Lovelock was about 41 in 1835 & Ann Lovelock was about 17. It could also be argued due to the age of Hannah & Ann, Ann could also be the mother of Sarah, plus as no baptism seemed to have occurred could suggest the birth’s mother didn’t wish to be published. Between the baptism of Jane Lovelock in 1832 and the 1841 census the Lovelock family had relocated from Wilcot to Hollybush Lane Pewsey, which could have been due to the illegitimate birth of of Sarah Lovelock. Ann Lovelock married John Dickman on the 14/11/1840 at Pewsey & named their first daughter Sarah in 1843 & second son James in 1845. It could be conjectured they were named after Ann’s first two children about 1835 & 1839. For awhile I wondered was the above Ann Lovelock the girl mentioned in the following Removal Order below, but I don't think this is the case:- Wiltshire Rover Index. (Microfiche index, published Wiltshire FHS) NB - First Place mentioned is parish initiating document. Second (if mentioned) is place moved to (removal order) or birthplace. LOVELOCK, Ann. 1837, Removal Order. Wotton Rivers, Enford . LOVELOCK, Ann. 1838, Settlement Examination. Wotton Rivers, Enford. Age 22, single woman, servant, now with child. LOVELOCK, Ann 1838, Removal Order. Wotton Rivers, Pewsey Union. There were only 3 registered births of a Lovelock in the Pewsey area in the period from 1838. They were:- Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1838 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference LOVELOCK George Collingbourne History Centre HILLIER COLL/1/141 Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1839 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference LOVELOCK Henry Collingbourne History Centre YEATES COLL/1/478 LOVELOCK James Collingbourne History Centre EYLES COLL/1/473 1. The age of Ann Lovelock mentioned in the Removal Order states she was 22. Ann was 20 in 1838. 2. The birth of the child mentioned in the Removal Order could have been never officially registered. 3. The birth of the child mentioned in the Removal Order could have been a still birth & therefore not registered. Sue and Malcolm are you related to Ann Lovelock Eyles? I'm a direct descendant of John Dickman who married both Ann & Jane Lovelock. Ann was only known as Lovelock Eyles as her parents didn't marry until after Ann was born. Sue thanks again for the newspaper article. Regards Ken Dickman, Melbourne Australia. kenjoy13@outlook.com PS - Graham, the work you do for the Lovelock site is wonderful. If possible could you please change my email address from kenjoy13@hotkey.net.au to kenjoy13@outlook.com - Thank you.
Well done Sue, very interesting. -----Original Message----- From: "SUE LOVELOCK" <lovelocks6@btinternet.com> Sent: 24/02/2017 15:25 To: "Lovelock List" <lovelock@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LOVELOCK] Ann Lovelock Eyles - a snippet In case anyone is interested, I'm passing on a transcription of a brief notice from the Devizes and Wiltshire Gazette dated 13th October 1836: "I Ann Lovelock Eyles of Allington hereby declare that I have propagated and told several malicious reports tending to injure the character and reputation of Mrs Stratton of Shaw Farm and her brother Mr Thomas Skeate for which they have threatened to prosecute me; but upon my acknowledging the same to be wholly without foundation and inserting this in the Devizes Gazette and paying the expenses of the sae, they have kindly consented to forgive me: for which kindness I hereby humbly thank them. Witness my hand this 11th day of October 1836 - Ann Lovelock Eyles Witness to the signature of Ann Lovelock Eyles - Richard Stratton, Upavon, Wiltshire." We don't know if Mrs Stratton was an employer, a neighbour or a relative of some sort. And we certainly don't know what Ann had been saying about her and her brother! But it's always good to find out a little something about the lives of our various Lovelock ancestors. Kind regards Sue Lovelock ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: http://lovelock.free.fr/ Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello all, If you scan the Free BMD data from 1837 to 1868 you will the birth of just one Alfred Robert Lovelock, in Jan-Mar 1865. If you scan Free BMD for marriages of Alfred R Lovelock between 1838 and 1983 you will find only two - both of an Alfred Robert Lovelock, in Apr-Jun 1884 and Jul-Sep 1896. The one and only Alfred Robert was a member of the St Pancras (Main) Tree, and our current Webtrees file records his marriages to Jane Emily Willson (note the double 'l') in 1884 and to Caroline Elizabeth Westwood in 1896. So far so good. Turning now to our Yorkshire data from the 1939 Register there is an entry for 3 Studfield Grove, Sheffield of William L Lovelock, born on 24 Apr 1897. That takes us to the GRO Online data, which reveals that his full name was William Lawrence Lovelock, but more importantly that his mother's maiden name was Willson (note the double 'l' again). Three more pieces of information to take into account are that there was no Lovelock/Willson marriage between 1838 and 1897 apart from that of Alfred Robert and Jane Emily, there is no record of the marriage of Jane Emily between 1891 (when she appears in the Census with Alfred) and 1865 (when she would have been 100 years old) and there is no death of Jane Emily in the records. So if William Lawrence was the son of Alfred and Jane he must have been conceived no later than July 1896, no more than two months before his father married Caroline Westwood, two months in which Alfred either secured a divorce from Jane, or had the marriage annulled on some grounds. Or was the second marriage bigamous? Can anyone tie up any of the several loose ends in this tale? Regards, Graham
In case anyone is interested, I'm passing on a transcription of a brief notice from the Devizes and Wiltshire Gazette dated 13th October 1836: "I Ann Lovelock Eyles of Allington hereby declare that I have propagated and told several malicious reports tending to injure the character and reputation of Mrs Stratton of Shaw Farm and her brother Mr Thomas Skeate for which they have threatened to prosecute me; but upon my acknowledging the same to be wholly without foundation and inserting this in the Devizes Gazette and paying the expenses of the sae, they have kindly consented to forgive me: for which kindness I hereby humbly thank them. Witness my hand this 11th day of October 1836 - Ann Lovelock Eyles Witness to the signature of Ann Lovelock Eyles - Richard Stratton, Upavon, Wiltshire." We don't know if Mrs Stratton was an employer, a neighbour or a relative of some sort. And we certainly don't know what Ann had been saying about her and her brother! But it's always good to find out a little something about the lives of our various Lovelock ancestors. Kind regards Sue Lovelock
Hello all, I have been contacted by a relation of Percy O Purvis who married Betty May Lovelock in 1950. They had 3 children, so I am wondering if by chance any of them are subscribed to this list? My contact is keen to acquire a photograph of Percy, if possible. Can anybody help? Regards, Graham
Hello all, A short tale ..... The 1939 Register lists two Thomas Lovelocks who were born in 1895. One was in the Kingsclere and Whitchurch RD in Hampshire, the other in the borough of West Ham in Essex. The former entry quite clearly refers to Thomas Woodhouse Lovelock from the Kingsclere line, but gives his date of birth as 31 January 1895. The Free BMD entry is indexed in the Apr-Jun quarter, which should not have happened. So is the date wrong, or did his parents effectively break the law by reporting the birth late? The latter of the 1895 births is more of a puzzle. The date of birth is quoted as 4 May 1895, but the only birth of a Thomas registered in the Apr-Jun quarter is that of Thomas Woodhouse. Checking for deaths of a Thomas born in 1895 only produces Thomas W in Apr-Jun 1961. So who was the Thomas in Essex in 1939? With him then was Mary E Lovelock, and both were married, so the assumption is that they were man and wife (the Register does not categorically state so). In that case they appear to be the Thomas Lovelock and Mary E Humphreys who married in the West Ham RD in Apr-Jun 1926, and had three daughters. Does that help to identify him? Regards, Graham
Hi Graham. There is an E G Sephton living in the next village to Northop. Maybe worth someone making contact. 4 Kelsterton CT Connahs Quay Deeside Flintshire. Phone no 01244 810641. Most of the Lovelocks from Northop originated from Ireland. As you know my line originated from Wiltshire. Regards. Malcolm. -----Original Message----- From: "Graham Lovelock" <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com> Sent: 11/02/2017 16:46 To: "Lovelock mailing list" <lovelock@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LOVELOCK] Do you know John and Maggie? Hello all, Not a puzzle for once. John Stanley Sephton married Maggie Alice Lovelock on 28 June 1924 in Northop, Flintshire. I have been contacted by someone from the Sephton family who is desperately seeking photographs of John and Maggie. If you are able and willing to help please let me know. Kind regards, Graham ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: http://lovelock.free.fr/ Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Graham. Cant help with photos sorry. Maybe worth asking local papers if anything in their records. Did their names pop up in the Lovelock lists I provided for Flintshire. A couple of the papers are the Chronicle, Flintshire Leader and Daily post for example. Regards Malcolm. -----Original Message----- From: "Graham Lovelock" <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com> Sent: 11/02/2017 16:46 To: "Lovelock mailing list" <lovelock@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LOVELOCK] Do you know John and Maggie? Hello all, Not a puzzle for once. John Stanley Sephton married Maggie Alice Lovelock on 28 June 1924 in Northop, Flintshire. I have been contacted by someone from the Sephton family who is desperately seeking photographs of John and Maggie. If you are able and willing to help please let me know. Kind regards, Graham ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: http://lovelock.free.fr/ Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello all, Not a puzzle for once. John Stanley Sephton married Maggie Alice Lovelock on 28 June 1924 in Northop, Flintshire. I have been contacted by someone from the Sephton family who is desperately seeking photographs of John and Maggie. If you are able and willing to help please let me know. Kind regards, Graham
No closer to finding his birth, but the following info gives a few clues: Thomas Harold Lovelock, date of birth 4 Dec 1899, died Luton, Beds 1975. Canada Soliders of the 1st world War, Enlistment: August 15th, 1916 Thomas Harold LOVELOCK, Date of birth 4 December 1899 Place of birth, Treharris, Monmouthshire, Wales Next of Kin, Mother, Mrs Emily Lovelock, 139 King Street, Cwn(?) , Wales Incoming Passenger Lists to UK, 1919. Thomas H Lovelock, born abt 1899, residence Clifton, Broadstone There is a William Henry Lovelock, baptism 4 Aug 1894, son of Henry James & Emily in Monmouthshire. And if this is the same person, I think it explains why Emily may have changed surnames: 1902 (Wales) Henry James Bishop, Alias Henry James Lovelock, , birth date about 1875, sentenced to 2 years hard labour. 4 indictments , 3 for theft, one for indecent assault involving a young girl on 4 occasions. He pleaded guilty. (mentions previous crimes dating back to his youth in Wiltshire). Helen Melbourne, Australia -----Original Message----- From: LOVELOCK [mailto:lovelock-bounces+helmar=bigpond.net.au@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Graham Lovelock Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 11:40 PM To: Lovelock mailing list Subject: [LOVELOCK] Thomas Harold Lovelock Hello all, Here's one that I do not think we have explored before, but no doubt I shall be put right if wrong! It all starts with the marriage of Thomas Harold Lovelock (aged 20) to Eva Alice Cooper on 26 Aug 1919 in Broadstone, Dorset (in our Lovelocks in Dorset data). Search as you may you will not find the birth of a single Thomas Harold anywhere in the Free BMD data between 1837 and 1905. In fact the only 'near miss' is Thomas Harry J born in 1894, but he was my 'Uncle Harry', killed in 1918. Free BMD does have Harold Tom, born 1881, and Harold Thomas, born 1885, but both would obviously have been much older than 20 in 1919. Furthermore Thomas and Eva appear in the 1939 Register, living in Luton in Bedfordshire, when Thomas declared his birthdate to be 4 December 1899. There are some other clues in the Dorset marriage entry. Thomas claimed his father Henry was a deceased miner, and one of the witnesses was a William Henry Lovelock. Could the 'miner' indicate a Welsh connection, and could William Henry be a brother? Turning to Free BMD again there are a lot of potential candidates for William Henry, but one that leaps out is the birth registered in the Pontypool RD in Jul-Sep 1894. A quick check in the GRO Online data reveals that the mother's maiden name in that case was Jones. Further Free BMD rummaging turns up the marriage in Oct-Dec 1893 in the Pontypool RD of Henry James Lovelock and Emily Gwendoline Jones. Yet more Free BMD research identifies only three Henry James births between 1850 and 1877, which seems a reasonable timespan, and of the three two died within a year of their birth. That leaves only Henry James born in Apr-Jun 1872 in the Pewsey RD, I2996 in the Lieflock file at Webtrees. We already have him married to Emily Jones, but at present their family consists only of Gladys Gwendoline (born 1896) and Lily Clementina (born 1904). So on the balance of the evidence I was going to ask should we add William Henry and Thomas Harold to the family of Henry and Emily? That is until I came across a rather odd 1911 Census entry. The entry is for 36 Francis Street, Bargoed, South Wales and lists the following: Emily Gwendoline Jones; Head; 35, Widow (but married 17 years with 3 children, all still living);Charwoman;born Pontnewydd, Monmouthshire William Henry Jones;Son;16;Coal Miner, Hewer's Boy;born Pontnewydd, Monmouthshire Lily Clementine Jones;Daur;6;;born Abertillery, Monmouthshire Edna May Jones;Daur;4;;born Barnsley, Yorkshire As if that is not weird enough, a check in the GRO Online data reveals that Edna May's birth was indeed registered in the Barnsley RD in Jan-Mar 1907, but the mother's maiden name was recorded as Lovelock! I can not find a death entry for Emily's husband as either a Lovelock or a Jones. One wonders if he had died just before Edna was born, and reporting the birth in a distraught state Emily had confused her maiden and married names. But even so, she surely could not have failed to report her husband's death? And why resort to her maiden name after his death? Anyway, it is, I think, clear that William Henry should be added to the family, and indeed Edna May, but this gets us no further forward in identifying Thomas Harold. I did wonder if he had been registered as Thomas Harold Jones, but there is no 1899 birth in Free BMD if so, in either Oct-Dec 1899 or Jan-Mar 1900. Emily's recording of only 3 children in 1911, all of whom were with her, causes another problem for Gladys Gwendoline would seem then not to be her daughter, as she had died in 1897 so should have been implied, if not named, in the 1911 entry. If anyone can think of any other lines of enquiry please let us know. 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One just never knows where these puzzles might take us! Well dug out, Helen. Find my past has this from 'The Gloucester Citizen' of 13 Feb 1902: 'A remarkable system of alleged wholesale robbery was revealed at the Newport Police-court on Wednesday, when Henry James Lovelock, alias Bishop, who has been committed to the Monmouth Assizes by the Pontypool magistrates, was brought up from Usk gaol , under a writ of habeas corpus, to answer several charges of stealing passengers' luggage, the property of the Great Western Railway Company, as carriers, from the Newport railway station. Prisoner was committed for trial att he Monmouth Assizes next week.' and this from 20 Feb 1902: 'Monmouth Assizes: Henry James Bishop (26), labourer, pleaded guilty to two charges of larceny at Newport, in January last, and was sentenced to nine months' imprisonment with hard labour. There was another charge against prisoner of attempted assault on a little girl at Abersychan on December 31st. He was found guilty, and sentenced to two years' imprisonment with hard labour.' A veritable rogue, but then, it seems, he had started early. How about this from 'The Portsmouth Evening News' of 9 October 1886: 'Henry James Lovelock, 14, of 3, Park Street, Forton, was charged with stealing from the Marine Barracks a case of surgical instruments, value £2 2s - Corporal George Wright-Barfield, of the Royal Marine Light Infantry, stated that yesterday the prisoner's mother brought him to the barracks to see if he was big enough to pass as a drummer. Witness measured him, and soon after he was gone missed the case containing the instruments. - Prisoner was remanded until Tuesday.' He was brought up on remand on 16 October, pleaded guilty and fined 11s. In 1890 he was caught with his hand in a pub's till (reported on our Crime and Punishment page) and got 3 months with hard labour. I shall be adding to his entry on the C&P page! Where did you find your report, Helen? Incidentally, his mother married for a second time in 1882 to a Thomas Bishop, hence the alias presumably. The marriage was in the Alverstoke RD, Alverstoke, like Forton, being in the Gosport area just across the harbour from Portsmouth, which ties in with part of the above. However, that leads to another mystery because there is no unequivocal record of the death of Charlotte's first husband Henry Lovelock. He seems to have avoided being captured in the 1881 or 1891 Censuses, although in 1881 Charlotte claimed to still be married, when recorded in her parents house. Henry was born in West Lavington, the only Lovelock born there, around 1845 (his baptism year) so should be uniquely identifiable. Which means he is probably the Henry Lovelock in West Ham in 1901 who was born in Lavington, Wiltshire. His occupation was Carpenter, which fits with his children's baptism entries, but he was recorded as aged 60 and Single. Fibbing, surely? There is no trace of him for sure in 1911, but there was a 63 year old Henry in Pewsey in 1911, a Carpenter, born in Pewsey. We have no record of a baptism of a Henry in Pewsey until 1880, so I suspect this is the Lavington man, and if so he is probably the one who died in the Pewsey RD in 1923, at the reported age of 75, indicating a birth in 1848. Charlotte and Thomas Bishop were running a pub in Ramsbury in 1891, but then seem to disappear. Tortuous tales! Regards, Graham ________________________________ From: LOVELOCK <lovelock-bounces+lovelockgraham=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Helen Norton <helmar@bigpond.net.au> Sent: 09 February 2017 10:52 To: lovelock@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LOVELOCK] Thomas Harold Lovelock No closer to finding his birth, but the following info gives a few clues: Thomas Harold Lovelock, date of birth 4 Dec 1899, died Luton, Beds 1975. Canada Soliders of the 1st world War, Enlistment: August 15th, 1916 Thomas Harold LOVELOCK, Date of birth 4 December 1899 Place of birth, Treharris, Monmouthshire, Wales Next of Kin, Mother, Mrs Emily Lovelock, 139 King Street, Cwn(?) , Wales Incoming Passenger Lists to UK, 1919. Thomas H Lovelock, born abt 1899, residence Clifton, Broadstone There is a William Henry Lovelock, baptism 4 Aug 1894, son of Henry James & Emily in Monmouthshire. And if this is the same person, I think it explains why Emily may have changed surnames: 1902 (Wales) Henry James Bishop, Alias Henry James Lovelock, , birth date about 1875, sentenced to 2 years hard labour. 4 indictments , 3 for theft, one for indecent assault involving a young girl on 4 occasions. He pleaded guilty. (mentions previous crimes dating back to his youth in Wiltshire). Helen Melbourne, Australia -----Original Message----- From: LOVELOCK [mailto:lovelock-bounces+helmar=bigpond.net.au@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Graham Lovelock Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 11:40 PM To: Lovelock mailing list Subject: [LOVELOCK] Thomas Harold Lovelock Hello all, Here's one that I do not think we have explored before, but no doubt I shall be put right if wrong! It all starts with the marriage of Thomas Harold Lovelock (aged 20) to Eva Alice Cooper on 26 Aug 1919 in Broadstone, Dorset (in our Lovelocks in Dorset data). Search as you may you will not find the birth of a single Thomas Harold anywhere in the Free BMD data between 1837 and 1905. In fact the only 'near miss' is Thomas Harry J born in 1894, but he was my 'Uncle Harry', killed in 1918. Free BMD does have Harold Tom, born 1881, and Harold Thomas, born 1885, but both would obviously have been much older than 20 in 1919. Furthermore Thomas and Eva appear in the 1939 Register, living in Luton in Bedfordshire, when Thomas declared his birthdate to be 4 December 1899. There are some other clues in the Dorset marriage entry. Thomas claimed his father Henry was a deceased miner, and one of the witnesses was a William Henry Lovelock. Could the 'miner' indicate a Welsh connection, and could William Henry be a brother? Turning to Free BMD again there are a lot of potential candidates for William Henry, but one that leaps out is the birth registered in the Pontypool RD in Jul-Sep 1894. A quick check in the GRO Online data reveals that the mother's maiden name in that case was Jones. Further Free BMD rummaging turns up the marriage in Oct-Dec 1893 in the Pontypool RD of Henry James Lovelock and Emily Gwendoline Jones. Yet more Free BMD research identifies only three Henry James births between 1850 and 1877, which seems a reasonable timespan, and of the three two died within a year of their birth. That leaves only Henry James born in Apr-Jun 1872 in the Pewsey RD, I2996 in the Lieflock file at Webtrees. We already have him married to Emily Jones, but at present their family consists only of Gladys Gwendoline (born 1896) and Lily Clementina (born 1904). So on the balance of the evidence I was going to ask should we add William Henry and Thomas Harold to the family of Henry and Emily? That is until I came across a rather odd 1911 Census entry. The entry is for 36 Francis Street, Bargoed, South Wales and lists the following: Emily Gwendoline Jones; Head; 35, Widow (but married 17 years with 3 children, all still living);Charwoman;born Pontnewydd, Monmouthshire William Henry Jones;Son;16;Coal Miner, Hewer's Boy;born Pontnewydd, Monmouthshire Lily Clementine Jones;Daur;6;;born Abertillery, Monmouthshire Edna May Jones;Daur;4;;born Barnsley, Yorkshire As if that is not weird enough, a check in the GRO Online data reveals that Edna May's birth was indeed registered in the Barnsley RD in Jan-Mar 1907, but the mother's maiden name was recorded as Lovelock! I can not find a death entry for Emily's husband as either a Lovelock or a Jones. One wonders if he had died just before Edna was born, and reporting the birth in a distraught state Emily had confused her maiden and married names. But even so, she surely could not have failed to report her husband's death? And why resort to her maiden name after his death? Anyway, it is, I think, clear that William Henry should be added to the family, and indeed Edna May, but this gets us no further forward in identifying Thomas Harold. I did wonder if he had been registered as Thomas Harold Jones, but there is no 1899 birth in Free BMD if so, in either Oct-Dec 1899 or Jan-Mar 1900. Emily's recording of only 3 children in 1911, all of whom were with her, causes another problem for Gladys Gwendoline would seem then not to be her daughter, as she had died in 1897 so should have been implied, if not named, in the 1911 entry. If anyone can think of any other lines of enquiry please let us know. Regards, Graham ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: http://lovelock.free.fr/ Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lovelock family history Web pages: http://lovelock.free.fr/ Browse Lovelock trees on the Webtrees portal: http://loveluck.net/LovelockTrees/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELOCK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message