Hello all, I've updated the Lovelock Web pages to include Robert's latest version of the collected Lovelock records for Hampshire. Any comments and.or additional data are always welcome! Regards, James

Thanks Robyn for all the details. Sounds like you've been pretty thorough already in your own research. However, it will be very difficult to establish a definite connection back to Wiltshire without further information. As you may have noticed from my email address, I am also an Australian so I do know a little about the history of white settlement and how it impacted on the aboriginal culture. Where do you live Robyn? Can you readily access the NSW State archives or the State Library? Sounds like you might have done that already. There may be other records of James other than those you have already located eg newspapers, land records, coroners records, criminal records, rental books etc etc. I'm no expert in this area but I believe it would be worth searching for any other possible records in Australia. The Wiltshire Record Office (they're online) should be able to advise you if the relevant Quarter Sessions are available. However, I have a copy of Gibson's guide to Quarter Sessions Records. There are evidently 'calendars' of prisoners 1828-38 ('calendars' as you may know are brief summaries of main facts) for the whole county and 'Great Rolls' 1603-1955 available through Wiltshire RO. According to Gibson, 'Great Rolls' are complete except for an occasional year in C17 and include jury lists, presentments, indictments, recognizances, writs, depositions, etc. I'm not familar with Quarter Session records so I have no idea how useful they might be. But certainly worth checking. Hope this helps. Robert PS The Mormans may also have filmed relevant Quarter Sessions which you can order in through your local LDS Family History Centre. All LDS resources are on-line at www.familysearch.com and are also available for purchase on CD-ROM at a very economical price. I had a quick look for you. I thought these titles sounded interesting: Title: Court records, 1563-1884 Authors: Great Britain. Court of Quarter Sessions of the Peace (Wiltshire) (Main Author) Minute books (draft) 1824-1865 Minute books 1783-1787 FHL BRITISH Film 1526614 Indictment books 1829-1884 Prosecutors' orders books 1848 FHL BRITISH Film 1526615 Items 1-12 PPS Will broadcast this to Lovelock list in case they have any further ideas. Don't forget there may be local papers in England that have references to convicts being transported. If he had a wife and child, someone must have looked after them. They may have received 'parish relief' or may have finished up in the Poor House. The Wiltshire RO should be able to advise here as well. I'm afraid you will have to go into 'sleuth' mode on this one. It may not be easy to find the connections you are after. But you'll learn a lot and hopefully have a lot of fun trying. Best of luck. Let me know if I can help further. PPPS How do you know James had a wife and children back in England? > Hi Robert sorry I have not replied for so long as I have been > very busy > JAMES LOVELOCK DEATH CERT SAYS NOTHING AS HE WAS A CONVICT HE DIED AT > ROLLANDS PLAINS NSW 3.12.1862 NO MOTHER NO FATHER NO WIFE NO > KIDS HE LIVED > 26 YRS IN NSW MARRIAGE ENG THATS ALL. THERE IS NO BIRTH CERT > OF WILLIAM HIS > SON BECAUSE HE WAS 1/2 ABORIGINAL THERE IS NO RECORD ONLY HIS > MARRIAGE CERT > SAYS 15.7.1858 TO FANNY SPOKES AGE FOR HIM IS 19 AND HER 21 > WILLIAM'S FATHER > AS JAMES LOVELOCK AND MOTHER IS COCKROACH ABORIGINAL NATIVE > THATS ALL FANNY > WAS THE DAUGHTER OF JOHN SPOKES CONVICT AND ANN COATES > CONVICT ALSO.THE > RITES OF THE CHURCH OF SCOTLAND > JAMES WAS CONVICTED IN THE WHILTSHIRE QUARTER SESSIONS > 8.4.1834 FOR STEALING > 2 PIGS HE GOT 7 YRS ARRIVING AUSTRALIA ON THE SHIP ENGLAND 3 > 28.9.1835 FROM > PORTSMOUTH CONVICT NO 2212 INDEX 209 > THE CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP WAS THOMAS BACON SAILED 8.6.1834 230 > MALE CONVICTS > THERE IS NO QUARTER SESSIONS PAPERS HERE IN AUSTRALIA > WILLIAM DID'NT MARRY AN ABORIGNAL GIRL JAMES HAD AN AFFAIR > WITH HER WILLIAM > WAS 1/2 CAST YOU SEE THE CONVICTS WHERE TREATED VERY BADLY > AND IF THEY HAD > A WOMEM THEY WOULD LIKE TO MARRY THEY HAD TO ASK PERMISSION > TO THE GOVERMENT > AT THE TIME IF THEY WHERE LUCKY THEY WHERE ALOUD AND IF THEY > WHERE MARRIED > IN ENGLAND THEY WHERE NOT ALOUD TO MARRY HERE. > IF THERE IS ANY THING ELSE I CAN HELP YOU WITH PLEASE CALL ROBYN > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi everyone Have been down at Society of Australian Genealogists again and finished checking available indexes for Lovelocks in Hampshire. Didn't have time to check the remaining Phillimore Marriages - sorry Helen. However, anything that was surname indexed relating to Hampshire I checked. Found a couple more Marriage Allegations (and corrected two from last time as I was rather rushed at the time and managed to make a couple of transcription errors!), one entry from the Hampshire Hearth Tax Assessment 1665, a few marriages in the Isle of Wight and, rather more significantly, a will index produced by the Hampshire Record Office as follows: 1575 Will/Inventory, Lovelock (Lovelake), Thomas, Hurstbourne Tarrant/Vernham Dean, 'Lovelake' in I (1574B46/1-2) 1578 Inventory, Lovelock (Lovelake), John, Hurstbourne Tarrant/Vernham Dean (1578AD4) 1582 Will/ Inventory, Lovelock, Thomasina, Hurstbourne Tarrant/Vernham Dean, widow (1582A29/1-2) 1731 Inventory/Admin, Lovelock, Robert, Combe, yeoman (1731AD079/1-2) 1740 Will, Lovelock(Lovelack), James, Kingsclere/North Oakley (1740BO74) 1831 Admon, Lovelock, Elizabeth, Wherwell, widow (1831AD48) 1840 Admon, Lovelock, William, Whitchurch Freefolk, yeoman (1840AD53) 1843 Will, Lovelock, Thomas, Tadley, labourer (1843AD74) 1844 Admon, Lovelock, John, South Tidwell, labourer (1844AD55) 1845 Will/Court Paper/Codicil, Lovelock, John, Barton Stacey, labourer (1845AD67/1-3) It would be nice to have the full text of these wills if anyone feels like chasing them up sometime. Have updated the Lovelocks_in_Hampshire page with new info and whisked off to James to add to the Lovelock site. Any members of Lovelock list wishing to have their own copy should contact me individually (remember we can't use attachments on the list) and I'll be happy to send it through. Have started on indexes for Oxfordshire. There are very extensive surname indexed modern transcriptions of parish registers available on fiche (done by the prolific Oxfordshire FHS) so hopefully will turn up a Lovelock or two. My own Lovelock line includes parishes in Oxfordshire so I thought I'd see if I could find any additions. Have also ordered the BTs and PRs for Easton Royal through my local Mormon FHC to see if we can clear up those annoying variations in event detail. BTs are already in and I have checked them. Alas there are a large number of gaps in the BT record so it won't actually fill in the known gaps in the PRs (as I had hoped). So the BTs don't actually help much to confirm the accuracy of the event detail. Will have to wait for PRs. Best wishes and hope you are all still keen and busy doing your own research. I look forward to sharing your results. Robert - -------------------------------------------- Lovelock Family History http://www.ri.silicomp.fr/~loveluck/genealogy/lovelock/

Hi Robyn Sorry it's taken a while to get back to you. I actually want to run your enquiry past my 79 years old cousin Gwen Eastment. You may have written to her at some stage. She's been researching Lovelocks for 25 years. I seem to remember a connection to a Lovelock and an aboriginal girl. She is coming for lunch this Monday with her daughter Shaun so will ask her then. Sounds like you've got quite a few possibilities happening here and you may well be correct. However, I wonder if you could supply some additional info please: On the Australian death certificate of James Lovelock (1793/95-1862), it should state: where and when he died: name and surname, rank or profession: Cause of death etc: Name and surname of Father and Mother with rank or profession: Where and when buried: name and religion of minister: where born and how long in Australia: If deceased was married, at what age and to whom: Issue, in order, their Names and Ages: All this detail may be vital. Could I please also have all the detail on his transport and Quarter Session papers? Have you located the birth or baptism details of his son William who married the Aboriginal girl? Milton Lilbourne has a likely entry: 1793 Feb 24 Privately Baptised James son of Wm & Mary Lovelock as of course does Wootten Rivers: 1797 Nov 5 James Son of John & Elizabeth Lovelock I think the former is the more likely myself. This marriage in Wootton Rivers is also a possibility: 1831 May 13 James Lovelock of this parish, bachelor & Hannah Hillier of this parish, spinster. By Banns. Both signed. Witness: John Rawlings but I think the one you found married in 1826 is the more likely. But this may have been a second marriage. I'd look for an earlier marriage as well. Perhaps even this one in Wroughton: 1814 Oct 20 James Lovelock & Lucy Ball I could find no likely children of James baptised in Wiltshire - and no girl with a father James. Perhaps she was from an earlier marriage? There are certainly likely children born to a James Lovelock and Lucy in Wroughton. James was of course in his thirties if he married Fanny Rawlins suggesting an earlier marriage likely. But could not find any suitable burial of a Lucy Lovelock between 1815 and 1826. Let's see what the rest of the Lovelock list think about it. Will get back soon. Cheers Robert HI my name is Robyn I have e-mailed Malcolm and Graham and thet have advised me to try the others on the web page to see if they can help me trace James Lovelock He was a Convict sent to Australia on the 8.4.1834 I believe he was born about 1795 or 1793 I have just got his death cert. back and it says that he was 67 in 1862 and on his transport papers says he was 41yrs in 1834 I have looked though the Lovelock web page and I have found only two James. I was wondering if you would have any information about him He was married with one girl child when he was sentenced Whitshire Quarter Session. I did find a Fanny Lovelock died on the 3.11.1838 age 50 wife of tran/convict.Little Bedwyn Burials 1591-1837Whitshire FHS Modern Transcript. There is also a Marriage 1826 May 9 James Lovelock and Fanny Rawlins both of Savernaque Index 1728-1838 Wooton Rivers Marriages. The reason I would like to find his rele's is that he had one child in Australia called William Lovelock his wife here is unknown as she was an Aboriginal and they were not aloud to marry while they where still married at home ENG. There is about 100 descendants from him today Kind Regards Robyn

Hello all, I've completed the revamping of the Lovelock Web pages to use the Joust navigation menu. Please let me know if I've missed out links to any material, or if there are any other problems. The version with the navigation menu is now the default version available at: http://www.ri.silicomp.fr/~loveluck/genealogy/lovelock/ The old version is still available at: http://www.ri.silicomp.fr/~loveluck/genealogy/lovelock/index-old.htm but I probably won't maintain it, so in future there may not be links to new material from this page. If the new pages pose a problem for anyone, then I'm prepared to revert to the old form. Gadgets are nice, but the important thing is the data itself, and I want to make it easier to get at rather than the reverse! Regards, James

Hello all, I finally got around to adding some more contributed material to the Web pages. This includes: o Some Lovelock references from non-parish register sources, provided by Helen Norton o Updates to both the Wiltshire and Hampshire collections of Lovelock records from Robert. Here are Robert's comments on these files: rsterry@zip.com.au said: > Finally finished typing up Lovelock research at SAG (Society of > Australian Genealogists) last Saturday week. Added significantly to > Lovelocks_in_Wiltshire file (mainly from Wiltshire FHS Burial Indexes) > and a bit to Lovelocks_in_Hampshire. Both files are attached. > That completes all Wiltshire resources currently available through SAG > and about helf way through Hampshire resources. However, the resources > available for Hampshire are nowhere as extensive as those for > Wiltshire so won't be adding all that much. Should finish Hampshire > resources on next visit. As usual, the Wiltshire file has been expurgated, to eliminate potentially living individuals (births/baptisms after 1900, marriages after 1920). The Hants file didn't contain any offending material. The new material is linked to the main Web page in the appropriate sections, and under the "What's New" heading. Finally, I'm experimenting with some software (Joust) for easier navigation among the Web pages. To see what this looks like, point your browser at: http://www.ri.silicomp.fr/~loveluck/genealogy/lovelock/test.htm This is far from complete, but I'd like to get your reactions before going further with organising the material in this way. Let me know if you like this way of organising the material, and if it poses any problems (download and display speed, browser incompatibilities, etc.) Regards, James

This message is just to test whether the taglines are now working. If they are, there should be a pointer to the Lovelock web page at the end of the message. Sorry for any inconvenience! James

Hello all, I've added to the Lovelock web pages a note from Robert with "comments on Graham Lovelock's Comments on the Lieflock Line". Robert also suggests actions which could resolve some of the discrepancies. I converted Robert's original Word document to HTML, for browsing convenience, but I found that it doesn't print too well with Netscape (although it was OK with IE), so I've also included a link to the original Word document. I also had one more comment on the Lieflock line, from Malcolm Lovelock, who wrote: malcolm@lovelock95.freeserve.co.uk said: > I have had a glance at the notes on the Lieflock Line.With reference > to note c. I have Richard's Burial as 6/2/1888 aged 79 at Gt Bedwyn. I look forward to any further comments which will shed further light on the Lieflock Line! Regards, James

Hi all Finally finished typing up Lovelock research at SAG (Society of Australian Genealogists) last Saturday week. Added significantly to Lovelocks_in_Wiltshire file (mainly from Wiltshire FHS Burial Indexes) and a bit to Lovelocks_in_Hampshire. Have sent files to James Loveluck for posting on Lovelock website burt happy to send to anyone direct on request. That completes all Wiltshire resources currently available through SAG and about helf way through Hampshire resources. However, the resources available for Hampshire are nowhere as extensive as those for Wiltshire so won't be adding all that much. Should finish Hampshire resources on next visit. All the best Robert - -------------------------------------------- Lovelock Family History http://www.ri.silicomp.fr/~loveluck/genealogy/lovelock/

Hello all, I have updated the Lovelock web pages to include the following: o Updated Lovelocks in Berkshire by Parish (yet another new version from Robert!) This includes Lovelocks from Aldermaston. o Added Lovelocks from Hampshire provided by Robert Sterry. This includes records from the IGI and from the LDS British Isles CDs, about half the marriages from Phillimore's Indexes (courtesy of Helen Norton) and Hampshire Lovelocks from Boyd's Marriage Index plus other bits and pieces. Regards, James

Hello all, Robert sent me a copy of his file, so I'll be adding it to the Lovelock Web pages when I get round to it. However, I'm having a hard time keeping up with Robert, and I still haven't updated the Berkshire Lovelocks file which he sent me about 10 days ago! James

Hi Everyone Have completed the Lovelocks_in_Hampshire html file. This file includes all Lovelocks from Hampshire in the IGI and from the LDS British Isles CDs, about half the marriages from Phillimore's Indexes (courtesy of Helen Norton) and Hampshire Lovelocks from Boyd's Marriage Index plus other bits and pieces that I had. When I'm next at the Society of Australian Genealogists I'll see if they have any other Vital Records of any parishes in Hampshire which aren't already included. However, the IGI seems to have an excellent coverage of Hampshire. I can't send this as an attachment to the list. The list does not permit attachments. However, if you would like a copy, email me and I'll send a copy personally. Hope this file proves of value to our combined research efforts. Best wishes Robert Sterry PS I will attach the file in html format in a compressed form unless you tell me otherwise. - -------------------------------------------- Lovelock Family History http://www.ri.silicomp.fr/~loveluck/genealogy/lovelock/

Hi I am new to your list, I am researching these names in the London area. Abraham LOVELOCK Chr.14 October 1814 Bermondsey.marr.18 sep.1831 to Martha LLOYD Shoreditch ,London.looking for his death,also his parents and info back as far as I can get please. Their children were : William Henry b.1832: John Richard b.1833: Robert Thomas b1834: d.1883 marr. Mary Thompson BOYS 24 May 1858 Robert & Mary are my line through my maternal grandmother Letitia REEVE. Any help would be appreciated,thankyou. Gloria PARK gary.park@clear.net.nz

Hi Gary Great to hear from you. - ------------------------------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Park <gary.park@clear.net.nz> > To: > Date: Sunday, 7 May 2000 15:06 > Subject: Lovelocks > > > >Dear Mr. Sterry, > >I see you are researching the name LOVELOCK,I am hoping we may be able to > >help each other if we are on the same line. > > > >My Grandmother's father was a Peter REEVE,he married Letitia > Mary LOVELOCK > >1882 at St Olaves church Southwark Surrey. > >Her father was Robert Thomas LOVELOCK, > >His father was Abraham LOVELOCK, > >His father was Stephen LOVELOCK, > >His father might have been Abraham LOVELOCK. > > > >Do you have the same line? I would be grateful for any links you > may have, > >could send you all of mine if you wish.I found the above names at the > Family > >History Centre in London,can't guarantee they are correct as I couldn't > >afford to buy all the certificates,much as I'd have liked to. > > > >Yours Sincerely Gloria PARK 15379 # - ------------------------------------------------------------------- I can't place your line directly. However, you should check out the following URL: - -------------------------------------------- Lovelock Family History http://www.ri.silicomp.fr/~loveluck/genealogy/lovelock/ This site has a lot of combined Lovelock research. There is also a Lovelock "list" for those interested in researching the name 'Lovelock'. You can subscribe to your list in mail mode by sending a message to LOVELOCK-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe and nothing else. If you decide to unsubscribe, you send a similar message that contains unsubscribe and nothing else. Once you're subscribed, you can send messages to: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com I have already forwarded your query to the Lovelock list. However, in order for us to help, we will need all the info that you can muster on this line, including dates and places of events indicated above. If you have certificates, please include all info shown. Best wishes Robert

Hello all, Graham Lovelock sent me some very comprehensive "Notes on the Lieflock Line", containing additional information, corrections and comments on the Lieflock Line. Graham has done a very thorough job of cross-checking against his data, and it will take me some time to incorporate his comments into the Lieflock Line. Rather than keep everyone waiting, I've added Graham's notes "as is" to the Lovelock Web pages (see the "What's New" section, or the "Trees and Family Fragments" section). Graham also provided some notes on sources of his data, and I've linked these to the Web pages as well. Graham provided some additional fragments (which are referenced in his notes) but I haven't yet linked them to the Web pages, since they contain information on living persons. So in line with my policy of not including details of living persons on the Web pages, I'll "censor" these fragments before adding them. Thanks a lot Graham for these very interesting comments! Regards, James

Hello all, Well, we already have 9 subscribers to the Lovelock mailing list! I've just updated the Lovelock Web pages: http://www.ri.silicomp.fr/~loveluck/genealogy/lovelock/ to include Robert's latest "Lovelocks in Wiltshire by parish" file. This update includes data provide by Helen Norton as well a large number of transcribed/indexed parish registers published by the Wiltshire FHS, which Robert found at the Society of Australian Genealogists. Regards, James

Hi Jum and Noreen > Thanks very much. That is some website. In a quick search I found Hanna > Marie Lovelock married to William Swatton. My great grandmother, > Louisa Ann > Swatton was one of their children. She married a Kimmer. I have > just hooked > that line in with a lady in Australia who was looking for Kimmers. I will > get back into the info to-night and fish out some more info. Thanks again. > I don't think I can help you in any way,but if their is just ask. Keep in > touch. Jim & Noreen Galley. We live about 65 miles west of Toronto. Delighted you found the Lovelock site useful! There is now a Lovelock List. Brand new! You might be interested in joining. The purpose of the list is to discuss genealogy of the Lovelock and related names, and in particular Loveluck variant! You can subscribe to your list in mail mode by sending a message to LOVELOCK-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe and nothing else. If you decide to unsubscribe, you send a similar message that contains unsubscribe and nothing else. Once you're subscribed, you can send messages to: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com

Hi one and all (perhaps only one at this stage??) Thought I'd give the new list a test run. Have started working on Lovelocks_in_Hampshire along the same lines as Wiltshire and Berkshire. Any vital records for Berkshire which you have not previously sent most gratefully received. Best wishes Robert - -------------------------------------------- Lovelock Family History http://www.ri.silicomp.fr/~loveluck/genealogy/lovelock/

I visited the Lovelock site to-day and found a lot of useful information. My G Grandmother was Louisa Ann Swatton.Her mother was Hannah Maria Lovelock Born 17 March,1841,Great Bedwyn Wilts. She was the daughter of William & Lucy. It appears that William was born Abt 1799 but I can't locate anymore information. I would be glad to hear from anyone from this line of the family. Regards Jim Galley in Southern Ontario, Canada.

Hopefully this will be the first message sent to the Lovelock mailing list! James