Hi William I said I would get back to you after you last email. I have had a good look at the detail you have provided - thank you very much. I checked a couple of other sources for where you might find detail on the birth of Charlotte Lovelock abt 1819 in Maidenhead, Berkshire or her father William Lovelock, broker. I had a look at Lovelocks in Berkshire extracted from the 1851 census. This is complete for Berkshire. This is only an index so it won't show occupations. But it has the reference you need to check the original census. I noticed three possibilities: LOVELOCK William 59 Hungerford Kintbury HO107/1686 142 LOVELOCK William 59 Newbury Thatcham HO107/1685 57 LOVELOCK William 55 Newbury Speen HO107/1685 600 However, since Charlotte won't be living with him in 1851, it will be difficult to establish the link, unless it mentions he was a 'broker'. It's also of course quite possible that William came from Middlesex, perhaps even Shoreditch: St John the Baptist, Hoxton since it was common practice to marry in the home parish of the bride rather than the groom and Charlotte was of course married in Hoxton, Middlesex. I would have thought 'brokers' were more likely to be associated with the London area rather than Berkshire. But that's a bit of a guess. I checked Specialist Indexes and Marriage, Census and other Indexes, both by Jeremy Gibson. There is a marriage index, males only, which covers 95% of Berkshire, up to 1837. Fee is 2 pounds 50p per specific marriage enquiry. You need to send SAE or 3 IRCs. Address is: Mrs P Knight, Old Oak Cottage, The Pound, Cookham, Nr Maidenhead, Berks. SL6 9QE. This might help you find William if he is listed as a broker and was married in Berkshire. For Middlesex, Boyd's Marriage Index for London and Middlesex might be worth a check but it doesn't appear to include the Shoreditch parishes. You could check the 1851 for the Shoreditch area for William, broker. The East of London Family History Society was published indexes to names in the 1851. Vol 7 covers Shoreditch area. Hope some of that helps. Very best of luck Robert ---------------------------------------- Lovelock Web Site: www.ri.silicomp.fr/~loveluck/genealogy/lovelock

Hi I checked the Symantec site for a description of the sort of virus some of us have been experiencing. I believe it is a variant of W32.Badtrans.B@mm. More of a nuisance than a real problem. If you want to have a read about it, the relevant URL is: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.badtrans.b@mm.ht ml Nortons AntiVirus and other similar programs will as usual detect and remove with no problem. But I'm sure you'll all taking the necessary precautions, aren't you! Best wishes Robert

I can confirm Malcolm's warning - I got a message from him (subject Re: Updated files on the Web pages) which had a known virus (fun.mp3) - fortunately it was trapped by the virus checker on our email server. James M F Lovelock wrote: > > Hi All > > I think someone is trying to send us viruses. I have had e-mail off myself regarding Gloucester Census which I didn't send and an e-mail with an attachment off a Kylie Lovelock which was rejected due to a virus. I suggest we all watch all e-mails and attachments for a while. > > Regards > > Malcolm "L" >

Hi All I think someone is trying to send us viruses. I have had e-mail off myself regarding Gloucester Census which I didn't send and an e-mail with an attachment off a Kylie Lovelock which was rejected due to a virus. I suggest we all watch all e-mails and attachments for a while. Regards Malcolm "L"

Good evening all In case any of you are interested in the above, the following site has details that are not captured in our records: http://www.familyorigins.com/users/l/l/o/Scott-Lloyd/FAMO3-0001/d76.html#P5160 Regards Graham _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hi Sally, I just answered a query from Graham L on that one as follows. Cheers Robert Malcolm L and myself - as you will know from posts to the Lovelock list - have been extracting Lovelocks from the GRO ie civil registration index of BDMs in England and Wales which commenced in June 1837. I have just completed marriages 1837-1853 so this marriage should be there. Let me check .. There's only one Lovelock married in London in 4th quarter 1839. 1839, Lovelock, Charlotte, Shoreditch, II, 390, 4 Sounds like the right one. However, presumeably your Texas gentleman already has that certificate. If not, he should certainly obtain it. It would be helpful to know whether her age was shown on the certificate and whether she was a spinster. Sadly, according to my Phillimore's Parish Atlas, there are no registers available for Maidenhead, which indeed was a parish. However, some births and/or marriages from that parish are in the IGI for the years 1796-1823. However, I have already extracted all Lovelocks from the IGI for Berkshire and they are included in the Lovelocks in Berkshire file. There is only one Charlotte baptism entry in the Berkshire Lovelocks in the parish of Shaw with Donington: 1793 May 20 (born May 15) Charlotte of Wm & Charlotte Lovelock However, marrying at age 46 doesn't seem too likely. Certainly not for a first marriage. I'd be checking with the Berkshire Record Office just to make sure that there are no available registers for Maidenhead all the same. I'd like to check that 1881 census entry. What was Charlotte's married name? The more common the surname, the less likely it will be her. It would also be useful to try and pick up Charlotte and her family in early census to check her stated age. Ages tended to vary a lot between censuses. She may have been born in Maidenhead but baptised in a parish nearby. It would be useful to try and locate any brothers and sisters of Charlotte who may have been baptised elsewhere. The following parishes are within 3 miles of Maidenhead: Bray, Bisham, Cookham, Taplow and White Waltham. Some baptisms from Bray are in the IGI. Bisham Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1560-1812 (Modern Transcript) have been searched without finding any Lovelocks. The others have not been searched but registers are available at the Berkshire RO. Some may have been filmed by the Mormons. Check the LDS site for detail. > Hello all, > Someone on one of the other lists posted a query from > someone in Texas trying to find out about: > Charlotte LOVELOCK who married Joseph CHARLES December > 23,1839 in Shoreditch,London. > Both father's names were William, and Thomas CHARLES > and Elizabeth LOVELOCK were the witnesses.They think > Charlotte was born about 1819 in > Maidenhead,Berkshire.I know there are several on the > list with interests in Berkshire.I haven't checked the > LOVELOCK site yet but I will,I just thought the names > might be familiar to someone out there.The e-mail > address for the person in Texas who is doing the > research is <WmChas@aol.com>

Hello all, Someone on one of the other lists posted a query from someone in Texas trying to find out about: Charlotte LOVELOCK who married Joseph CHARLES December 23,1839 in Shoreditch,London. Both father's names were William, and Thomas CHARLES and Elizabeth LOVELOCK were the witnesses.They think Charlotte was born about 1819 in Maidenhead,Berkshire.I know there are several on the list with interests in Berkshire.I haven't checked the LOVELOCK site yet but I will,I just thought the names might be familiar to someone out there.The e-mail address for the person in Texas who is doing the research is <WmChas@aol.com> Hope this helps someone, Sally ===== LACK, MINNEY, JOHNSON, ROBERTS, WAITE, SPARROW, FREEMAN, MARTIN in Northamptonshire. KIRBY, SEATON in Rutland JUGGINS, BALLS in Bedford WOOD, CLARK in Yorkshire LOVELOCK, NICKLESS, BALL, COOK, FARMER, FISHER, ALDERMAN, GRIFFIN, DOLING, STROUD, WOOLDRIDGE, LAWS, SMITH in Hampshire _______________________________________________________ Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com

Owing to a virus pest persistently E Mailing me a virus which takes 15 minutes to download I have now deleted my Freeserve E mail address and am using NTL. Bill Lovelock

Hi All Have just completed checking LDS film 1040620 which contains Parish Register for Reading - St Marys Burials 1813-1880. Just a few. Fancy having a name like Abednego! Must have been hell at school! 1815 May 5 Abednego Lovelock, Pigney Lane, age 4 years 1816 Jan 24 Thomas Lovelock, Pigney Lane, age 6 mths 1829 Mar 8 George Lovelock, Coley St, 8 mths 1844 Mar 17 Anne Dovey Lovelock, Coley Street, age 61 1845 May 25 Harriet Lovelock, Coley St, age 21 In case your're wondering about my search strategy, I'm checking parishes for Lovelocks in Berkshire around Reading and Wallingford as these are the last two areas where the Berkshire Lovelock line peters out. Both parishes are on the border of Oxfordshire so any of the Oxfordshire parishes nearby will eventually need to be checked as well. There aren't too many resources to look at in the early 1700s so possible search strategies are fairly limited. Any suggestions from others on this Lovelock list are always welcome. I'm not sure if the Berkshire Wills we have are complete. That's a good source for the period of course albeit limited to the few Lovelocks who had enough of an estate to leave a Will. Parish records might have something - but these are terribly slow to go through and none are indexed. Court Rolls? Perhaps. But again mostly limited to land transactions and disputes so only a few of the wealthier ones will appear. Some may be indexed. It actually gets quite interesting scratching around in this period without any census or GRO to reference - as I'm sure many of you will agree! Best wishes Robert

Many thanks Allen! James in sunny Grenoble! (We've been having a very fine Indian summer for about a month now - very pleasant sunny warm weather. I'm sure it won't last!) Ableth@aol.com wrote: > > Hello list, > Just a quick one for JAMES as I had it in front of me while reading this > Digest. > J. Loveluck Aberavon was trading with the boat Ribbleton out of Aberavon in > 1872. > Regards Allen in sunny Aberavon. >

Hello list, Just a quick one for JAMES as I had it in front of me while reading this Digest. J. Loveluck Aberavon was trading with the boat Ribbleton out of Aberavon in 1872. Regards Allen in sunny Aberavon.

Hello all, James Loveluck wrote: > The Web pages have been updated with the latest Berkshire > Lovelock records from Robert. This version includes additional > records for Reading St Giles - one marriage and a number of > burials. > I omitted to mention that this latest version of the Berkshire Lovelock file also includes a few records for Reading St Lawrence. As Robert had mentioned in an earlier mail, he had extracted Lovelock records from the Bishop's Transcripts for this parish, with rather meagre results. Regards, James

Sorry to divert the List from its true purpose but the above is not over yet - still have Angkor Wat and Sihanoukville to do next week! Will try to make recompense in some way when I get back - perhaps see if I can follow up on the Farm matter in some way. Regards to all Graham _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hello all, The Web pages have been updated with the latest Berkshire Lovelock records from Robert. This version includes additional records for Reading St Giles - one marriage and a number of burials. As usual, the new file can be accessed firectly from the "What's New" page, or via Sources -> Berkshire -> Lovelocks in Berkshire by Parish Regards, James

Hi Everyone Have just completed LDS Film 88343 Marriages Reading, St Giles 1754-1812 with following results: 1790 Apr 25 Thomas Lovelock of this parish and Sarah Walker of this parish by Licence, both signed. Wit: Silas Lovelock, Joseph Boyle 1791 Feb 14 Edward Hawkins of this parish and Lucy Lovelock of the same, by banns, both signed. Wit: Ann Fennemore, Maria Fennemore 1795 Oct 15 John White of this parish and Elizabeth Lovelock of this parish, by banns, both put their marks. Wit: Joseph Baylis, Charles Walker 1798 Nov 29 William Cottrell of this parish and Ann Lovelock of this parish, by banns, both signed. Wit: Thos Harbor, Joseph Baylis 1799 April 7 John Hearsey of this parish and Lucy Munday of this parish, by banns, he signed and she put her mark. Wit: Wm Cottrell, Jane Lovelock 1807 July 28 Richard Lovelock of this parish and Ann Cheesman of the same, by banns, he put his mark and she signed. Wit: Elizabeth Clark, Joseph Baylis, Dawn Cheesman Best wishes Robert

Hi Everyone I am currently building my own web site,that includes all my surname intrests including LOVELOCK I am on the lookout for the LOVELOCK family crest/coat of arms that i could use if anyone has an image or photo of such that is not subject to any copyright laws who would be willing to scan and send to me i would be more than appreciate it. and of course i will give you a mention as the source as well on the site site should be launched and live on the www very soon now,just final constrution left best wishes to all LOVELOCK researchers _________________________________ Brian Weston-S-Mare, Somerset, UK Virus Protection By Norton Anti-Virus 2001 greyhound@crowe49.freeserve.co.uk _________________________________

Hi Brian I have no direct information to help on your search for Lovelock's in Kingsclere at this present time, but I would like to make you aware Robert is gathering a lot of Gro information on birth's, deaths and marriages, which may prove helpful when it comes available. He's finding it very time consuming so you may have to wait a little while, but some good information may come from it. Regards Malcolm "L"

hello everyone just reposting my LOVELOCK intrests LOVELOCK ------ Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK LOVELOCK ------- Kingsclere (Ashford hill,Woodlands) _________________________________ Brian Weston-S-Mare, Somerset, UK Virus Protection By Norton Anti-Virus 2001 greyhound@crowe49.freeserve.co.uk _________________________________

Hi fellow Lovelock researchers Have just completed searching for Lovelocks in Reading-St Lawrence [Bishop's Transcript: LDS Film 1279466] with the following rather disappointing results: Reading, St Lawrence Baptisms 1606-07, 1612, 1615-17, 1619, 1620-23, 1628-31, 1635, 1661-63, 1668-82, 1685-87, 1689-93, 1695, 1698, 1700-1812 (BTs) 1813 May 14 Henry son of Mary Lovelock. Base born. Reading, St Lawrence Marriages 1606-07, 1612, 1615-17, 1619, 1620-23, 1628-31, 1635, 1661-63, 1668-82, 1685-87, 1689-93, 1695, 1698, 1700-1754(BTs) 1806 May 20 Francis Lovelock & Ann Marshall Reading, St Lawrence Burials 1606-07, 1612, 1615-17, 1619, 1620-23, 1628-31, 1635, 1661-63, 1668-82, 1685-87, 1689-93, 1695, 1698, 1700-1812 (BTs) 1785 Sep 27 John Lovelock s. of John and Martha (from St Giles) On the same film were BTs for Reading, St Mary, Marriages 1754-1812. One possible marriage: 1789 May 28 John Froome to Mary Lovelek(?) B. Have sent updated Lovelocks in Berkshire File as usual through to James. Best wishes to you all Robert Sterry

Hi All Thanks to every one for their interest and help. I was just trying to cut corners and get some pointers of some Parishes in Flintshire and Denbighshire which may contain Lovelock's. I hoped the IGI may have been useful, never mind. I will just persevere and search through the indexes of the Modern Parish Transcripts for any Lovelock's. Once again Thanks!!!! Malcolm "L" P.S Every time I visit the LDS site and carry out a Lovelock search, all I seem to get is a message, unable to carry out a search due to maintenance.(that's why I thought it would be better to get paper copies)