Hello list. Sorry to continue with Margam Abbey MI`s but I know it is important to some. All we have to find know is a second marriage for D.E. Marendaz and a Catherine. Proving hard owing to two things. St. Catherine's Index in very poor condition for first few years. And Margam Abbey Parish Registers proving hard to get at as the are only in the Abbey for years after 1837? Best Regards Allen in Aberavon.

For those interested in the Glamorgan Lovelucks/Lovelocks, I've made soem recent updates to the LovelUck Web pages, http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/loveluck/index.html Here are the details from the "What's New" page: * 17-Jan-03: Updated the page containing open questions and issues concerning Loveluck family history <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/loveluck/loveluck-questions.htm> to include some responses and relevant information from Allen Blethyn, Lynne Davis, Catherine Lovelock, Robert Sterry together with bits I dug out myself. * 17-Jan-03: Made some corrections and additions (provided by Allen Blethyn) to the MIs for the Abbey Church of St Mary, Margam <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/loveluck/mis-st-marys-margam.htm>. * 8-Jan-03: On the Family Tree page <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/loveluck/family-tree.htm>, updated to the latest version (V3.02) of the Java Applet, which has some new features - the index can be switched on and off, and the applet starts faster because it uses libraries (jar files). Also, I managed to produce a gedcom file (using PAF) which is handled better by the Java applet. The Java applet does not handle all gedcom 5.0 tags, but a gedcom 4.0 compatible file is handled much better. The notes and sources can now be visualised (in the "List" view) although the presentation is still not perfect. Thanks to all those who contributed! Regards, James

It really is marvellous to have a "man on the spot"! Many thanks Allen for your graveyard investigation. I'll remove the spurious refereence to Catherine on the Web page with the Margam MIs. This still doesn't explain how Catherine Marendaz shows up in the census records for 1841, 1851, 1881 and 1891, since the MI claims that she died in 1836! Unless David Emmanuel Marendaz married a second Catherine. Thanks a lot for filling in the blanks in the MI for this gravestone (A20). I'll include the details on the Web page. Thanks again Allen! Sunny and cold (-5 deg C in the morning) in Grenoble for the last couple of days, but a bit warmer (4 deg) and cloudier today! Regards, James Ableth@aol.com wrote: >Hello list, >Grave D74. MARGAM ABBEY. >The Surname on this grave is in all cases spelt MARENDAZ. and not as reported >in Glam FHS MI`s as Marendez. >More important is the fact that the bottom line in the same Glam MI`s >regarding Catherine does not exist on the stone in question.? > >That was the reason why I went there to check owing to the same Catherine >being mentioned on Grave A20. Margam. > >The above grave is the grave on James`s site regarding JENKIN BEVAN >On James`s site owing to it being taken from a photograph, he has included >some ? ?. >Here are the missing ? ? in order >H.M.Customs. >Nov.28th.1896. aged 49 years [ at no. 9 Courtland Terrece Port Talbot.] >25th.September 1913. aged 57 years. > >No mason`s mark, but it looks very familiar to me? >Best Regards Allen in Aberavon. > > >

Hello list, Grave D74. MARGAM ABBEY. The Surname on this grave is in all cases spelt MARENDAZ. and not as reported in Glam FHS MI`s as Marendez. More important is the fact that the bottom line in the same Glam MI`s regarding Catherine does not exist on the stone in question.? That was the reason why I went there to check owing to the same Catherine being mentioned on Grave A20. Margam. The above grave is the grave on James`s site regarding JENKIN BEVAN On James`s site owing to it being taken from a photograph, he has included some ? ?. Here are the missing ? ? in order H.M.Customs. Nov.28th.1896. aged 49 years [ at no. 9 Courtland Terrece Port Talbot.] 25th.September 1913. aged 57 years. No mason`s mark, but it looks very familiar to me? Best Regards Allen in Aberavon.

found on 1929 electoral roll 10 Gladstone Terrace Battersea Arthur william Thomas Lovelock Charles Henry Lovelock George Lovelock Isabel Lovelock Percy Walter Lovelock Thomas Lovelock Charlotte Elizabeth Ryan Thomas William Ryan I think this is the family of Thomas Lovelock son of George and Eliza Lovelock of East Grafton Best wishes Jean Gilmore

Answer - no. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Lovelock" <lovelockgraham@hotmail.com> To: <LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: Re: Error messages > No such received here (so will I get one now?). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Loveluck" <james.loveluck@numericable.fr> > To: <LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:23 AM > Subject: Error messages

No such received here (so will I get one now?). ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Loveluck" <james.loveluck@numericable.fr> To: <LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:23 AM Subject: Error messages

James is rather reticent about his Lovelock roots His father was Tom Lovelock born c.1870 He had a brother Fred age unknown He married and had two children names unknownHis wife died and he married Nell March in 1914 james was born on 26 july 1919 at his grandmother March`s house at Letchworth best wishes to all from Jean Gilmore

Thanks Jean, that's interesting. Berkshire is very much Lovelock country of course! However, Robert's latest Berkshire Lovelocks file has scarcely any entries for Wantage - just a few marriages and burials in the 16th and 17th centuries! Any chance that you could get a bit more information, e.g. grandfather's name and approx. date of birth. Regards, James Jean GILMORE wrote: >I have corresponded with James and know that his fathers family came from Wantage in Berkshire Best wishes for the New Year Jean Gilmore > > > > >

Hello List, Error message same with me, started about a month ago, causes a few hours delay. I was told on other lists that it applied to AOL Users only. Best Regards Allen in clear skied warming up Aberavon.

Hello all, Each time I send a message to the Lovelock mailing list recently, I receive an error message from Rootsweb, of the form: Your message To: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Updated Berkshire Lovelocks file Sent: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:02:44 -0000 did not reach the following recipient(s): LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com on Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:15:56 -0000 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=ICON;l=ICON010301101015CNL9N1ZH In fact, the messages do appear on the list, but its a bit annoying to get the error messages all the time. Before trying to understand what's going wrong, I wanted to check whether I am the only one who is experiencing the problem, or whether everyone who sends messages to the list is getting the error messages. Maybe I haven't paid my dues :-( Regards, James ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello all, I've updated the file "Lovelocks in Berkshire by Parish" to correspond to the latest one provided by Ropbert Sterry. As usual, I've removed baptisms later than 1902 and marriages later than 1922. The complete file can be obtained on request from Robert or myself. The file is linked to Sources->Berkshire->Lovelocks in Berkshire by Parish and is also linked to the "What's New" page. Here is the description, taken from Robert's message: 10-Jan-03: Updated the file Lovelocks in Berkshire by Parish to the latest version provided by Robert Sterry This version includes all the wonderful Berkshire Lovelock marriages that John Lovelock kindly obtained from the Berkshire FHS from their latest Marriage Index into the Lovelocks in Berkshire file. Of the 162 Lovelock marriage entries, 63 were new! The combined vital records (mostly BDMs) for Lovelocks in Berkshire now represents over 80% of the approx 180 church parishes in Berkshire! A pretty impressive resource by any standard. Quite a few non-conformist records are also included. Many thanks to Robert and John for their excellent work! Following Allen's example, here are the local weather conditions in Grenoble: cold (-3 deg C) and dry but we had our first sprinkling of snow in the valley yesterday. This after several weeks of very mild weather, with temperatures as high as 19 deg C. Regards, James

Thanks a lot Allen - I didn't have the information about the marriage of John Loveluck Marendaz/Maranday and Lydia Griffiths. Lydia and two of the children also show up in the 1851 census (still at Penllergaer schoolhouse) - I couldn't figure out who this family was without the missing information you provided: Census of Parcel Penderi Ref H.O. 107/2465 E.D.3C. Address: Penllergaer Schoolroom Marendaz Lydia Head (Widow?) 46 Schoolmistress Gla Swansea (c.1805) Marendaz John Son 17 Grocer's apprentice Gla Swansea (c. 1834) Marendaz George Son 12 Scholar Gla Swansea (c.1839) You allude to John Loveluck Marendaz "getting into a spot of trouble". I found out about this in the article by A. Leslie Evans "The Marendaz and Thomas Families of Glamorgan", which contains the following phrase: "It seems likely that the John Loveluck Marendaz, a traveller for the Evan Evans' Brewery at Neath, who embezzled his employer's money in 1843, was a brother to Francis" [You'll find a copy of Leslie Evans' article on the Loveluck Web pages, under Documents->Marendaz & Thomas Families.] Captain DMK Marendaz (g grandson of DE Marendaz junior) was obviously embarrassed by this wayward ancestor, since in a reply to Leslie Evans' article he wrote: "No one of my family have heard of another son or John Lovelock Marendaz, nether has any descendants ever been heard of such a man, or his place of baptism, marriage or burial" [I got a copy of this document from the NLW] I hope Allen and I don't bore the other listers with our Glamorgan tales! Regards to all, James Ableth@aol.com wrote: >Hello List, >Mainly for James but all comments welcomed at all times. > >The Marendaz name as spelt by David Emanuel MARENDAZ when he signed his own >name on Margam Register at his marriage dated 9th.of Sept. 1798. >Ann signed as Lovluck, in the prefence of D. ? Loveluck and Edward Loveluck. > >Married by Licence by the well known local vicar John Hunt. > >But the main point of my writing today is about their son John Loveluck >Marendez b.1806. Margam. >He turned up for me today on the Glam FHS. Pre 1837 marriage list as John >Loveluck Maranday marrying Lydia Griffiths at St. Mary Swansea in 1826. >Lucky for the name Loveluck. > >1841. Glam FHS. CD Census . Butter St. Neath Town. >With Evan Evans. 45. spirit merchant. John Marendaz 35 male servant. > >So here he was living away from his wife of 15 yrs married. >We will see a little later John getting himself into a spot of trouble here >in Neath. > >So to his wife Lydia, >1841. Census Penllergaer schoolhouse. Llangyfelach. [Swansea ] >Lydia Marender 36. schoolmistress. >Mary Ann Marender 12. >Henry Marender 10. >John Marender 8. >Sefton Marender 6. >George Marender 2. > >What is interesting about this in 1841 is that the above schoolhouse is next >to Penllergaer House which is the family home of the gentry Llewellyn family >who are related to the Talbot family of Margam Park. > >I am still working on the MI of Grave of Catherine wife of David Emanuel >Marendaz, I am making slow progress there James. > >Best Regards Allen in freezing Aberavon > > >==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== >Lovelock family history Web pages: >http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

I have corresponded with James Ephraim Lovelock and his family came from Wantage in Berkshire BestWISHES for the New Year Jean Gilmore

I have corresponded with James and his family came from Wantage in Berkshire Best wishes for the New Year Jean Gilmore

I have corresponded with James and his family originated in Wantage Berkshire

I have corresponded with James and know that his fathers family came from Wantage in Berkshire Best wishes for the New Year Jean Gilmore

Hello List, Mainly for James but all comments welcomed at all times. The Marendaz name as spelt by David Emanuel MARENDAZ when he signed his own name on Margam Register at his marriage dated 9th.of Sept. 1798. Ann signed as Lovluck, in the prefence of D. ? Loveluck and Edward Loveluck. Married by Licence by the well known local vicar John Hunt. But the main point of my writing today is about their son John Loveluck Marendez b.1806. Margam. He turned up for me today on the Glam FHS. Pre 1837 marriage list as John Loveluck Maranday marrying Lydia Griffiths at St. Mary Swansea in 1826. Lucky for the name Loveluck. 1841. Glam FHS. CD Census . Butter St. Neath Town. With Evan Evans. 45. spirit merchant. John Marendaz 35 male servant. So here he was living away from his wife of 15 yrs married. We will see a little later John getting himself into a spot of trouble here in Neath. So to his wife Lydia, 1841. Census Penllergaer schoolhouse. Llangyfelach. [Swansea ] Lydia Marender 36. schoolmistress. Mary Ann Marender 12. Henry Marender 10. John Marender 8. Sefton Marender 6. George Marender 2. What is interesting about this in 1841 is that the above schoolhouse is next to Penllergaer House which is the family home of the gentry Llewellyn family who are related to the Talbot family of Margam Park. I am still working on the MI of Grave of Catherine wife of David Emanuel Marendaz, I am making slow progress there James. Best Regards Allen in freezing Aberavon

Thanks to John and Michael for keeping a sharp eye on the New Year Honours! Even though James E. Lovelock is well known, in family history terms he remains a bit of a mystery. Does anyone know of a connection with other Lovelock branches? Regards, James John Lovelock wrote: >Happy New Year Lovelock Listers. > >Spotted in The Times Tuesday 31st December 2002: > >ORDER OF THE COMPANIONS OF HONOUR > >James Ephraim Lovelock > >Scientist, inventor and author, services to global environmental science. > >Best Wishes > >John Lovelock > > > > >==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== >Lovelock family history Web pages: >http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

Hello Colin, Malcolm Lovelock already provided Lovelock extracts from the the 1851 census for GLS, which you'll find on the page Sources -> Gloucestershire -> Lovelock Extracts from the Gloucestershire 1851 census. This includes those you provided and quite a few additional records. Thanks anyway - I certainly don't want to discourage you! Regards, James Colin P Borrott-Maloney wrote: >Hi Lovies >Some Lovelock's from 1851 census Gloucestershire >See link for full Enumerators entry - > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/GLSontheweb.htm > >LOVELOCK Harriet Widow 40 ? Pauper Cam / Cam 51 >LOVELOCK Sarah SinL 80 Annuitant Stonehouse /Randwick 51 >LOVELOCK Emma Servant 16 / Cam 51 >LOVELOCK John 40 Ag Lab Shipton le Moyne /Shipton le Moyne 51 >LOVELOCK Martha Servant 31 Oaksey / Gloucs: Holy Trinity 51 >LOVELOCK Isaac 73 Ag. Lab Bitton / Bitton 51 > >Happy hunting >Col > > > >