Hi all This is the first bogus family history email I have received with a virus attached. So be cautious of opening attachments. (Natually I have not forwarded the attached virus!) And make sure you've got antivirus software running and regularly UPDATE the virus signatures for it. Then you'll have no problems! Best wishes Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Turnbull [mailto:brady@another.com] > Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2003 8:27 PM > To: undisclosed-recipients: > Subject: [BORDER] Thomas Turnbull > > > Hello, > Searching for marriage confirmation on Thomas Turnbull > b-mar.30,1802 @ Roxburgh,Sct. to William Turnbull and Mary > nee Beattie.I have the following options. m-Helen Purves > 11-19-1822 Melrose m-Isabel Black 12-12-1823 Melrose m-Mary > Beattie 12-19-1824 Kirktown m-Isabella Miller 10-25-1924 Jedburgh > > Regards, > Jack Turnbu >

Great to hear from you Jen. I'll give your particular query some thought and get back to you. In the meantime, you will undoubtedly be interested in the Lovelock website: ------------------------------------------ Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ There is also a lively Lovelock discussion list. I will copy your query to the list. The list coordinator, James Loveluck, will send you instructions on how to join if you're interested. The members are always very happy to help with Lovelock enquiries and research. Best wishes Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: Jen Foley [mailto:jenfoley@tpg.com.au] > Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2003 9:19 PM > To: rsterry@zip.com.au > Subject: Family History - Lovelock > > > Dear Robert > > Today I checked through the Genealogical Directory 2003 and > discovered your details for LOVELOCK: all. > > My ancestor is Robert Lovelock, born 18/10/1818 London. He > married Jane > Currie 26/09/1847. The children of the Lovelock's were: > Robert (who > married Bridget Baldwin), Elizabeth, John, Stephen, Jane, > Eliza, Abraham, Martha, Mary, Susan, Diana, William & Lucy > (twins), James, Edward. > > I have yet to discover how Robert arrived in Australia but I > believe his parents to be Stephen & Elizabeth Lovelock. > > Robert is my great-great-great-grandfather. I would be very > grateful for any information you can share. > > Looking forward to hearing from you, > > Kind regards, > > Jennifer Foley. >

Iam looking for the parents and sibling descendents of Frederick John. I cannot find any information about his birth or marriage to Eliza Jane Tillman. He ended up living in Merton Surrey at least from 1930 onwards. He died in Surbiton Surrey on 28th Dec 1943. He had 4 children the eldest Frederick William, my husbands grandfather, was born in Streatham nearby to Merton. Rumour has it that Frederick John's father was born in Malmesbury as well. He had a brother Charles who was a dairy farmer in the 1930s living in Earley outside Reading. Frederick John was a builder. Any informantion would be most appreciated.Thank you. Sian Lovelock

The "Hobart Town Courier" 26 June 1854 p.2 col.6 (reporting English news) noted: On Saturday morning, April 1, a very destructive fire occurred at Smelmore Farm, in the occupation of Mr. Lovelock, at Chively, near Newbury, which consumed the entire homestead, five valuable horses, and other live stock. The loss of farm produce is very considerable. It is supposed to be the work of some incendiary. with best wishes Dianne Snowden Richmond Tasmania (Aus).

The "Hobart Town Courier" 26 June 1854 p.2 col.6 (reporting English news) noted: On Saturday morning, April 1, a very destructive fire occurred at Smelmore Farm, in the occupation of Mr. Lovelock, at Chively, near Newbury, which consumed the entire homestead, five valuable horses, and other live stock. The loss of farm produce is very considerable. It is supposed to be the work of some incendiary. with best wishes Dianne Snowden Richmond Tasmania (Aus). >

Welcome to the Lovelock list Sian. The reason why Malmesbury does not feature is possibly because it never made the IGI or Boyd's Marriage Index or the Pallot Marriage Index. So unless someone had a reason to search that particular parish, it would be left untouched. However, the original registers are available from 1591-1870 at the Wiltshire Record Office. It has not evidentally been filmed by the Mormons so can't be viewed outside the Hampshire RO or the Society of Genealogists in London who also have a copy. There is also evidentally a local marriage index 1590-1837. I'm not sure what time period you're interested in for Lovelocks in Malmesbury. But here's all the Lovelock GRO entries for the Malmesbury Registration District that have been extracted to date: Event Year Surname Forenames Reg District Vol Page Qtr/Mo Age Birth 1865 Lovelock Henry Malmesbury 5a 87 2 Birth 1865 Lovelock Henry Malmesbury 5a 87 2 Birth 1874 Lovelock Alfred Charles Malmesbury 5a 47 1 Birth 1876 Lovelock Albert Malmesbury 5a 46 2 Birth 1876 Lovelock Elizabeth Malmesbury 5a 55 2 Death 1849 Lovelock Ellen Malmesbury VIII 248 4 Death 1849 Lovelock Ellen Malmesbury VIII 247 4 Death 1891 Lovelock George Malmesbury 5a 27 1 15? Death 1892 Lovelock Martha Malmesbury 5a 29 2 72 Death 1896 Lovelock John Malmesbury 5a 28 1 67 Death 1898 Lovelock Mary Ann Malmesbury ? 29 4 73 Death 1907 Lovelock Thomas Malmesbury ? ? 1 71? Death 1926 Lovelock Sarah Malmesbury 5a 46 3 82 Death 1931 Lovelock William J Malmesbury 5a 79 1 52 Hope this helps Best wishes Robert > Her husband is a Surrey Lovelock whose father was also born > in Surrey. His grandfather and any generations before that > are proving very difficult to track down. After several > probing family interviews Sian now believes that her > husband's Lovelock grandfather and great-grandfather may have > haled from Malmesbury. I know we have no, or very little, > data from Malmesbury, but can not remember why this is. > > Can anyone remind me, and do we have anybody else with > Malmesbury connections who might be able to help Sian out?

Greetings all Visited the Society of Australian Genealogists in Sydney yesterday and completed extracting marriage from Boyd's Marriage Index 1500-1837. I had previously only completed to 1750. Most of these marriages I already had included in the Lovelocks by Parish compiled files for the respective counties with the exception of the following: 1817 LOVELOCK Jn & Mary PAIN Compton HANTS 1826 LOVELOCK Mary & Wm CARTER Compton HANTS 1830 LOVELOCK Chas & Mary An COOK Compton HANTS 1763 LOVELOCK Abra & Mary YOUNG Cherington GLOS 1774 LOVELOCK Mary & Ric DAVIS Great Badminton GLOS 1761 LOVELAKE Jn & Christian KING Sparsholt BERKS I will email to James separately the complete Lovelock extractions for Boyd's 1500 - 1837 together with the updates of the counties of Gloucestershire, Hampshire and Berkshire. If any of you would like a copy (I cannot attach a document when posting to the list) please email me separately. Hope you're all going well with your own research. Best wishes Robert from a rather cloudy and cool winter's afternoon in Kurrajong, NSW, Australia.

Many thanks Mike and Alison for your contribution. I have forwarded a copy to James Lovelock in Cornwall. I am sure he will be delighted to discover the Lovelock Listers have traced his lineage back to 1780. Best Wishes John Lovelock Hedgerley Buckinghamshire -----Original Message----- From: Michael E Turner [mailto:M.E.Turner@hull.ac.uk] Sent: 10 July 2003 10:20 To: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Lovelocks in Cornwall On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:33:40 +0200 James Loveluck <james.loveluck@numericable.fr> wrote: Sorry to take so long to respond to this correspondence trail (and this is the third time I have tried this morning to make a response since my local system is playing up - so apologies for any multiple posting that gets through). I was alerted to the reference to Winchfield in Hampshire and so my wife Alison extracted the following from her files (most, if not all of which should be on the website). Mike and Alison Turner DETAILS AS FOLLOWS Re James Lovelock born 1832 in Winchfield, son of Richard and Hannah Lovelock. It seems likely he is the James you are looking for and the census age is wrong. There are no other James Lovelocks baptised in Winchfield. James's father, Richard, was baptised in Crondall, Hampshire on 7th July 1791 together with his brother Daniel. They were the sons of James Lovelock and Hannah Newman (marr.Jun 13 1780 Crondall) Richard married Hannah Hounson in Crondall on Apr 10 1819. Both Richard and Daniel ended up in Winchfield. 1841 Census Winchfield Richard Lovelock 45 agr. lab Hannah Lovelock 40 Susan Lovelock 20 Samuel Lovelock 15 William Lovelock 13 David Lovelock 10 Mary Ann Lovelock 4 Selina Lovelock 2 There's also a James aged 8 in Winchfield, not with his family. (this part of the census was almost illegible, so I didn't record who he was living with.) 1851 census Winchfield Richard Loblock 60 agr. lab. b. Crondall Anna Loblock 54 b. Binsted James Loblock 18 b. Winchfield Mary Ann Loblock 14 b. Winchfield Selina Loblock 11 b. Winchfield 1861 Census Winchfield Richard Lovelock wid. 68 lab Hannah Lovelock was buried in Winchfield on Oct 1 1853 aged 55 Richard Lovelock was buried on Nov 1 1870 aged 78 Re marriage of James Lovelock there is a marriage in Basingstoke 1859 Dec quarter. This seems likely as his wife Rachael (1881 census) was born in Hook near Basingstoke and the date fits well with their children's ages. ********************************************************************* > Hello John, > > I think I found the family in the 1881 census, living at Kiln House, > Charlton, Berks. > > The date of birth of Tom A(rthur) Lovelock is given as 1874, which is > close to what James stated. There is also a younger brother Frederick, > who must be "uncle Fred". The father's occupation is given as "brick > burner" and the eldest son as "brick maker". It seems that the parents > (James' grandparents) were from Hampshire. See details below. > > I looked in the "Lovelocks in Hampshire" file for the baptism of James > (grandfather) at WInchfield. There is a baptism as follows: > > 1832 Jul 1 James s. of Richard and Hannah Lovelock > > but this is about 7 years out if the census data is anything like > correct. I didn't find a record for the marriage either. > > Regards, > > James > > ------------- > > Dwelling: Kiln House > Census Place: Charlton, Berkshire, England > Source: FHL Film 1341314 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1291 Folio > 47 Page 11 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > James LOVELOCK M 42 M Winchfield, Hampshire, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Brick Burner > Rachael LOVELOCK M 41 F Hook, Hampshire, England > Rel: Wife > William LOVELOCK U 21 M Noteley Squires, Hampshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Brick Maker > Francis E. LOVELOCK U 12 M East Challow, Berkshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Labourer > Selina G. LOVELOCK U 10 F East Challow, Berkshire, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Tom A. LOVELOCK U 7 M Charlton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Edith F. LOVELOCK U 6 F Charlton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Frederick C. LOVELOCK 3 M Charlton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Son > John MARTIN U 33 M Drayton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Brick Maker > James HAWKINS U 24 M West Ilsley, Berkshire, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Labourer And Berks Militiaman > > > John Lovelock wrote: > > > Hi James > > > > > > > > James Lovelock has advised me that his father's name is Tom ( Thomas) > > Arthur. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately he hasn't provided the place of birth but his letter > > indicates that this event took place at Farnborough near Wantage in > > 1872 and he was one of 13 children. > > > > > > > > Can any Listers find him on the 1881 Census? > > > > > > > > I also asked James if he knew anything about the Lovelocks of Polperro > > in South East Cornwall. Whilst on holiday in the area a couple of > > years ago I noticed several shops in the village run by Lovelocks and > > was told by another shopkeeper that there was quite a Colony of > > Lovelocks! > > > > > > > > James said that he was aware of this enterprising branch of the family > > but did not know anyone there. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any knowledge of this branch and when they moved to > > the area? > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Loveluck [mailto:james.loveluck@numericable.fr] > > Sent: 23 June 2003 20:17 > > To: John Lovelock > > Cc: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: James Lovelock > > > > > > > > Hello John, > > > > Well this is certainly an interesting connection - your announcement > > in the Newbury News is turning out to be very fruitful! > > > > Its unfortunate that James Lovelock doesn't give quite enough > > information to track down his Lovelock branch, or at least not in the > > letter which you forwarded. It would be nice to have a least the first > > name of his father, and perferably his place of birth. > > > > In fact, I have some credit left at 1837online, so I did a lookup for > > Lovelock births in 1919, and found the corresponding record in the 3rd > > quarter, for Hitchin RD, vol. 3a, page 1145. > > > > Perhaps you could suggest to James that he take a look at the Lovelock > > Web site, and that he browse around to see if he can find any likely > > ancestors! I'd be more than happy to help him out! > > > > John Lovelock wrote: > > > >Dear James > > > > > > > >I received a fascinating letter from James Lovelock (from his home in > > > >Cornwall) on Friday and e mailed him requesting his permission to > > > >circulate the contents of his letter to The List. James has since given > > > >me permission to share his genealogy and I therefore reproduce his > > > >letter in full below: > > > > > > > >" Dear John Lovelock 17 June > > > >2003 > > > > > > > >A friend who lives in Newbury passed on your announcement in the Newbury > > > >News about a reunion of the Lovelock families. Although I am not > > > >personally much interested in genealogy I thought you might like the few > > > >details of my family history for your data base. > > > > > > > >My father's family came from the Latin Down area on the hills above > > > >Wantage, nearest village Farnborough.Grandfather worked at the > > > >Brickworks owned by the Lousley family. Father, born 1872 died 1956, was > > > >one of 13 children. He moved to Brixton London in his teen age. I was > > > >born at Letchworth Garden City, my mother's home, in 1919. > > > > > > > >As a child I remember an Uncle Fred Lovelock, who also lived in Brixton, > > > >and an aunt Lilly who lived in Didcot and was married to a Herman. There > > > >were also cousins living in Portsmouth. My father's sister Clara lived > > > >close by and she was married to Frank Guichard. > > > > > > > >The only other point of interest is that there is some evidence of Inuit > > > >(Baffin Island) ancestry in my father's family. In my case the Blood > > > >Group Laboratory of Boston USA were prepared to say the odds were over a > > > >million to one that my ancestry included an Inuit. > > > > > > > >I hope that this information is helpful, if not just transfer it to the > > > >bin. > > > > > > > >With all best wishes > > > > > > > >>From James Lovelock CH CBE CChem FRS " > > > > > > > > > > > >Best Wishes > > > > > > > >John Lovelock > > > >Hedgerley > > > >Buckinghamshire > > > >England > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: James Loveluck [mailto:james.loveluck@numericable.fr] > > > >Sent: 06 January 2003 17:24 > > > >To: John Lovelock > > > >Cc: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Subject: Re: New Year Honours > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks to John and Michael for keeping a sharp eye on the New Year > > > >Honours! Even though James E. Lovelock is well known, in family history > > > >terms he remains a bit of a mystery. Does anyone know of a connection > > > >with other Lovelock branches? > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > >James > > > > > > > >John Lovelock wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Happy New Year Lovelock Listers. > >> > >> > >> > >>Spotted in The Times Tuesday 31st December 2002: > >> > >> > >> > >>ORDER OF THE COMPANIONS OF HONOUR > >> > >> > >> > >>James Ephraim Lovelock > >> > >> > >> > >>Scientist, inventor and author, services to global environmental > >> > >> > >> > >science. > > > > > > > >>Best Wishes > >> > >> > >> > >>John Lovelock > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > >> > >>Lovelock family history Web pages: > >> > >>http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/> > >> > >> > >> > >>============================== > >> > >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >> > >> > >> > >records, go to: > > > > > > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > > > >Lovelock family history Web pages: > > > >http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/> > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ---------------------------------------- Michael E Turner Professor of Economic History Department of History University of Hull Cottingham Road Hull HU6 7RX Tel: (44)(0) 1482 465913 Fax: (44)(0) 1482 466126 Web: http://www.hull.ac.uk/history/homepage.html Email: M.E.Turner@hull.ac.uk ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:33:40 +0200 James Loveluck <james.loveluck@numericable.fr> wrote: Sorry to take so long to respond to this correspondence trail (and this is the third time I have tried this morning to make a response since my local system is playing up - so apologies for any multiple posting that gets through). I was alerted to the reference to Winchfield in Hampshire and so my wife Alison extracted the following from her files (most, if not all of which should be on the website). Mike and Alison Turner DETAILS AS FOLLOWS Re James Lovelock born 1832 in Winchfield, son of Richard and Hannah Lovelock. It seems likely he is the James you are looking for and the census age is wrong. There are no other James Lovelocks baptised in Winchfield. James's father, Richard, was baptised in Crondall, Hampshire on 7th July 1791 together with his brother Daniel. They were the sons of James Lovelock and Hannah Newman (marr.Jun 13 1780 Crondall) Richard married Hannah Hounson in Crondall on Apr 10 1819. Both Richard and Daniel ended up in Winchfield. 1841 Census Winchfield Richard Lovelock 45 agr. lab Hannah Lovelock 40 Susan Lovelock 20 Samuel Lovelock 15 William Lovelock 13 David Lovelock 10 Mary Ann Lovelock 4 Selina Lovelock 2 There's also a James aged 8 in Winchfield, not with his family. (this part of the census was almost illegible, so I didn't record who he was living with.) 1851 census Winchfield Richard Loblock 60 agr. lab. b. Crondall Anna Loblock 54 b. Binsted James Loblock 18 b. Winchfield Mary Ann Loblock 14 b. Winchfield Selina Loblock 11 b. Winchfield 1861 Census Winchfield Richard Lovelock wid. 68 lab Hannah Lovelock was buried in Winchfield on Oct 1 1853 aged 55 Richard Lovelock was buried on Nov 1 1870 aged 78 Re marriage of James Lovelock there is a marriage in Basingstoke 1859 Dec quarter. This seems likely as his wife Rachael (1881 census) was born in Hook near Basingstoke and the date fits well with their children's ages. ********************************************************************* > Hello John, > > I think I found the family in the 1881 census, living at Kiln House, > Charlton, Berks. > > The date of birth of Tom A(rthur) Lovelock is given as 1874, which is > close to what James stated. There is also a younger brother Frederick, > who must be "uncle Fred". The father's occupation is given as "brick > burner" and the eldest son as "brick maker". It seems that the parents > (James' grandparents) were from Hampshire. See details below. > > I looked in the "Lovelocks in Hampshire" file for the baptism of James > (grandfather) at WInchfield. There is a baptism as follows: > > 1832 Jul 1 James s. of Richard and Hannah Lovelock > > but this is about 7 years out if the census data is anything like > correct. I didn't find a record for the marriage either. > > Regards, > > James > > ------------- > > Dwelling: Kiln House > Census Place: Charlton, Berkshire, England > Source: FHL Film 1341314 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1291 Folio > 47 Page 11 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > James LOVELOCK M 42 M Winchfield, Hampshire, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Brick Burner > Rachael LOVELOCK M 41 F Hook, Hampshire, England > Rel: Wife > William LOVELOCK U 21 M Noteley Squires, Hampshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Brick Maker > Francis E. LOVELOCK U 12 M East Challow, Berkshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Labourer > Selina G. LOVELOCK U 10 F East Challow, Berkshire, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Tom A. LOVELOCK U 7 M Charlton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Edith F. LOVELOCK U 6 F Charlton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Frederick C. LOVELOCK 3 M Charlton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Son > John MARTIN U 33 M Drayton, Berkshire, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Brick Maker > James HAWKINS U 24 M West Ilsley, Berkshire, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Labourer And Berks Militiaman > > > John Lovelock wrote: > > > Hi James > > > > > > > > James Lovelock has advised me that his father's name is Tom ( Thomas) > > Arthur. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately he hasn't provided the place of birth but his letter > > indicates that this event took place at Farnborough near Wantage in > > 1872 and he was one of 13 children. > > > > > > > > Can any Listers find him on the 1881 Census? > > > > > > > > I also asked James if he knew anything about the Lovelocks of Polperro > > in South East Cornwall. Whilst on holiday in the area a couple of > > years ago I noticed several shops in the village run by Lovelocks and > > was told by another shopkeeper that there was quite a Colony of > > Lovelocks! > > > > > > > > James said that he was aware of this enterprising branch of the family > > but did not know anyone there. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any knowledge of this branch and when they moved to > > the area? > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Loveluck [mailto:james.loveluck@numericable.fr] > > Sent: 23 June 2003 20:17 > > To: John Lovelock > > Cc: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: James Lovelock > > > > > > > > Hello John, > > > > Well this is certainly an interesting connection - your announcement > > in the Newbury News is turning out to be very fruitful! > > > > Its unfortunate that James Lovelock doesn't give quite enough > > information to track down his Lovelock branch, or at least not in the > > letter which you forwarded. It would be nice to have a least the first > > name of his father, and perferably his place of birth. > > > > In fact, I have some credit left at 1837online, so I did a lookup for > > Lovelock births in 1919, and found the corresponding record in the 3rd > > quarter, for Hitchin RD, vol. 3a, page 1145. > > > > Perhaps you could suggest to James that he take a look at the Lovelock > > Web site, and that he browse around to see if he can find any likely > > ancestors! I'd be more than happy to help him out! > > > > John Lovelock wrote: > > > >Dear James > > > > > > > >I received a fascinating letter from James Lovelock (from his home in > > > >Cornwall) on Friday and e mailed him requesting his permission to > > > >circulate the contents of his letter to The List. James has since given > > > >me permission to share his genealogy and I therefore reproduce his > > > >letter in full below: > > > > > > > >" Dear John Lovelock 17 June > > > >2003 > > > > > > > >A friend who lives in Newbury passed on your announcement in the Newbury > > > >News about a reunion of the Lovelock families. Although I am not > > > >personally much interested in genealogy I thought you might like the few > > > >details of my family history for your data base. > > > > > > > >My father's family came from the Latin Down area on the hills above > > > >Wantage, nearest village Farnborough.Grandfather worked at the > > > >Brickworks owned by the Lousley family. Father, born 1872 died 1956, was > > > >one of 13 children. He moved to Brixton London in his teen age. I was > > > >born at Letchworth Garden City, my mother's home, in 1919. > > > > > > > >As a child I remember an Uncle Fred Lovelock, who also lived in Brixton, > > > >and an aunt Lilly who lived in Didcot and was married to a Herman. There > > > >were also cousins living in Portsmouth. My father's sister Clara lived > > > >close by and she was married to Frank Guichard. > > > > > > > >The only other point of interest is that there is some evidence of Inuit > > > >(Baffin Island) ancestry in my father's family. In my case the Blood > > > >Group Laboratory of Boston USA were prepared to say the odds were over a > > > >million to one that my ancestry included an Inuit. > > > > > > > >I hope that this information is helpful, if not just transfer it to the > > > >bin. > > > > > > > >With all best wishes > > > > > > > >>From James Lovelock CH CBE CChem FRS " > > > > > > > > > > > >Best Wishes > > > > > > > >John Lovelock > > > >Hedgerley > > > >Buckinghamshire > > > >England > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: James Loveluck [mailto:james.loveluck@numericable.fr] > > > >Sent: 06 January 2003 17:24 > > > >To: John Lovelock > > > >Cc: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Subject: Re: New Year Honours > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks to John and Michael for keeping a sharp eye on the New Year > > > >Honours! Even though James E. Lovelock is well known, in family history > > > >terms he remains a bit of a mystery. Does anyone know of a connection > > > >with other Lovelock branches? > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > >James > > > > > > > >John Lovelock wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Happy New Year Lovelock Listers. > >> > >> > >> > >>Spotted in The Times Tuesday 31st December 2002: > >> > >> > >> > >>ORDER OF THE COMPANIONS OF HONOUR > >> > >> > >> > >>James Ephraim Lovelock > >> > >> > >> > >>Scientist, inventor and author, services to global environmental > >> > >> > >> > >science. > > > > > > > >>Best Wishes > >> > >> > >> > >>John Lovelock > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > >> > >>Lovelock family history Web pages: > >> > >>http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/> > >> > >> > >> > >>============================== > >> > >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >> > >> > >> > >records, go to: > > > > > > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > > > >Lovelock family history Web pages: > > > >http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/> > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ---------------------------------------- Michael E Turner Professor of Economic History Department of History University of Hull Cottingham Road Hull HU6 7RX Tel: (44)(0) 1482 465913 Fax: (44)(0) 1482 466126 Web: http://www.hull.ac.uk/history/homepage.html Email: M.E.Turner@hull.ac.uk

BlankHi, Whilst looking through the parish registers for Whitchurch, Hampshire this morning came across the following entries. They may, of course, already be known. 1745 Dec 18. Thomas Lovelock buried. 1749 May 28 Widow Lovelock buried. 1740 Jan 30 James Excell and Mary Lovelock of Whitchurch were married. Keith Taylor St. Albans

Good evening all. I hope I have persuaded a lady by the name of Sian Davies to join the list. Her husband is a Surrey Lovelock whose father was also born in Surrey. His grandfather and any generations before that are proving very difficult to track down. After several probing family interviews Sian now believes that her husband's Lovelock grandfather and great-grandfather may have haled from Malmesbury. I know we have no, or very little, data from Malmesbury, but can not remember why this is. Can anyone remind me, and do we have anybody else with Malmesbury connections who might be able to help Sian out? She is presently able to research essentially only from her keyboard, so this needs to be born in mind. One of the frustrations she has found is that mysteriously none of the 1881 or 1901 Census information seems to relate to these Malmesbury denizens. But I will allow her to amplify the tale. Regards from a Yate enjoying pleasant evening sunshine Graham

Hello Steve, Thanks for your contributions to the list! TnS750@aol.com wrote: >By the way -isnt it time you Lovelocks organised >(i) a ONe Name Study with GOONS > I discussed this possibility long ago with Robert Sterry, and if I remember correctly one has to pay to register with GOONS, and the advantages of registering seemed somewhat nebulous, but if this is not the case I'm willing to be persuaded! >(ii) a y chromasome DNA study with Professor Sykes of Oxford ancestors ? > Personally I would be very interested in this, since I'd like to demonstrate the hypothetical connection of my Glamorgan LovelUck branch with the Wiltshire LovelOcks. However, it would require a bunch of confirmed Wiltshire Lovelock descendants to take part. >Steve Tanner , in sunny Carmarthen Wales > > > So you're not far from Loveluck country (Glamorgan)! Regards, James

Graham in deepest Yate again, clearly without enough to do ........... Do we not have anyone with a particular interest in the Shalbourne Lovelocks? It's just that there seems to be a fair bit of information available on them and yet we do not have an appropriate "Fragment".

Good evening, all On the subject of Cornwall Lovelocks, has everyone else spotted the Wiltshire link in the 1881 Census? The relevant entry is: RG11 2279 F88 P18 Duck Street, Cawsand, Rame, Cornwall William Lean Head 62 Bigbury, Devon Fisherman Ann Lean Wife 61 Huish, Devon William Brown Gd-Son 12 Rame, Cornwall Annie Lovelock Gd-Daur 3 Swindon, Wilts Regards Graham

Hi James Message of thanks from James Lovelock. Dear John, Many thanks to you both for the family information. My father told me that my grandfather worked at a Brickworks near Wantage which was I think owned by the Lousley family. Perhpas he moved there from Hampshire. Best wishes, James

Thanks Steve. I did not respond to your thoughts on these subjects as I thought that James Loveluck may wish to comment as Mailing List co-ordinator. Best Wishes John -----Original Message----- From: TnS750@aol.com [mailto:TnS750@aol.com] Sent: 02 July 2003 18:21 To: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Cornish Lovelocks as of 2001 Hi John Maybe they commute to Polperro. Its a pretty crowded little place-not much room for residential property . Maybe they just drive in to manage their businesses . What about thoughts on the footnote to my previous message ? Steve ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello John, I think I found the family in the 1881 census, living at Kiln House, Charlton, Berks. The date of birth of Tom A(rthur) Lovelock is given as 1874, which is close to what James stated. There is also a younger brother Frederick, who must be "uncle Fred". The father's occupation is given as "brick burner" and the eldest son as "brick maker". It seems that the parents (James' grandparents) were from Hampshire. See details below. I looked in the "Lovelocks in Hampshire" file for the baptism of James (grandfather) at WInchfield. There is a baptism as follows: 1832 Jul 1 James s. of Richard and Hannah Lovelock but this is about 7 years out if the census data is anything like correct. I didn't find a record for the marriage either. Regards, James ------------- Dwelling: Kiln House Census Place: Charlton, Berkshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341314 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1291 Folio 47 Page 11 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James LOVELOCK M 42 M Winchfield, Hampshire, England Rel: Head Occ: Brick Burner Rachael LOVELOCK M 41 F Hook, Hampshire, England Rel: Wife William LOVELOCK U 21 M Noteley Squires, Hampshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Brick Maker Francis E. LOVELOCK U 12 M East Challow, Berkshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Labourer Selina G. LOVELOCK U 10 F East Challow, Berkshire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Tom A. LOVELOCK U 7 M Charlton, Berkshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Edith F. LOVELOCK U 6 F Charlton, Berkshire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Frederick C. LOVELOCK 3 M Charlton, Berkshire, England Rel: Son John MARTIN U 33 M Drayton, Berkshire, England Rel: Lodger Occ: Brick Maker James HAWKINS U 24 M West Ilsley, Berkshire, England Rel: Lodger Occ: Labourer And Berks Militiaman John Lovelock wrote: > Hi James > > > > James Lovelock has advised me that his father's name is Tom ( Thomas) > Arthur. > > > > Unfortunately he hasn't provided the place of birth but his letter > indicates that this event took place at Farnborough near Wantage in > 1872 and he was one of 13 children. > > > > Can any Listers find him on the 1881 Census? > > > > I also asked James if he knew anything about the Lovelocks of Polperro > in South East Cornwall. Whilst on holiday in the area a couple of > years ago I noticed several shops in the village run by Lovelocks and > was told by another shopkeeper that there was quite a Colony of > Lovelocks! > > > > James said that he was aware of this enterprising branch of the family > but did not know anyone there. > > > > Does anyone have any knowledge of this branch and when they moved to > the area? > > > > Best Wishes > > > > John > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Loveluck [mailto:james.loveluck@numericable.fr] > Sent: 23 June 2003 20:17 > To: John Lovelock > Cc: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: James Lovelock > > > > Hello John, > > Well this is certainly an interesting connection - your announcement > in the Newbury News is turning out to be very fruitful! > > Its unfortunate that James Lovelock doesn't give quite enough > information to track down his Lovelock branch, or at least not in the > letter which you forwarded. It would be nice to have a least the first > name of his father, and perferably his place of birth. > > In fact, I have some credit left at 1837online, so I did a lookup for > Lovelock births in 1919, and found the corresponding record in the 3rd > quarter, for Hitchin RD, vol. 3a, page 1145. > > Perhaps you could suggest to James that he take a look at the Lovelock > Web site, and that he browse around to see if he can find any likely > ancestors! I'd be more than happy to help him out! > > John Lovelock wrote: > >Dear James > > > >I received a fascinating letter from James Lovelock (from his home in > >Cornwall) on Friday and e mailed him requesting his permission to > >circulate the contents of his letter to The List. James has since given > >me permission to share his genealogy and I therefore reproduce his > >letter in full below: > > > >" Dear John Lovelock 17 June > >2003 > > > >A friend who lives in Newbury passed on your announcement in the Newbury > >News about a reunion of the Lovelock families. Although I am not > >personally much interested in genealogy I thought you might like the few > >details of my family history for your data base. > > > >My father's family came from the Latin Down area on the hills above > >Wantage, nearest village Farnborough.Grandfather worked at the > >Brickworks owned by the Lousley family. Father, born 1872 died 1956, was > >one of 13 children. He moved to Brixton London in his teen age. I was > >born at Letchworth Garden City, my mother's home, in 1919. > > > >As a child I remember an Uncle Fred Lovelock, who also lived in Brixton, > >and an aunt Lilly who lived in Didcot and was married to a Herman. There > >were also cousins living in Portsmouth. My father's sister Clara lived > >close by and she was married to Frank Guichard. > > > >The only other point of interest is that there is some evidence of Inuit > >(Baffin Island) ancestry in my father's family. In my case the Blood > >Group Laboratory of Boston USA were prepared to say the odds were over a > >million to one that my ancestry included an Inuit. > > > >I hope that this information is helpful, if not just transfer it to the > >bin. > > > >With all best wishes > > > >>From James Lovelock CH CBE CChem FRS " > > > > > >Best Wishes > > > >John Lovelock > >Hedgerley > >Buckinghamshire > >England > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: James Loveluck [mailto:james.loveluck@numericable.fr] > >Sent: 06 January 2003 17:24 > >To: John Lovelock > >Cc: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com> > >Subject: Re: New Year Honours > > > > > >Thanks to John and Michael for keeping a sharp eye on the New Year > >Honours! Even though James E. Lovelock is well known, in family history > >terms he remains a bit of a mystery. Does anyone know of a connection > >with other Lovelock branches? > > > >Regards, > > > >James > > > >John Lovelock wrote: > > > > > >>Happy New Year Lovelock Listers. >> >> >> >>Spotted in The Times Tuesday 31st December 2002: >> >> >> >>ORDER OF THE COMPANIONS OF HONOUR >> >> >> >>James Ephraim Lovelock >> >> >> >>Scientist, inventor and author, services to global environmental >> >> >> >science. > > > >>Best Wishes >> >> >> >>John Lovelock >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== >> >>Lovelock family history Web pages: >> >>http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/> >> >> >> >>============================== >> >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> >> >> >records, go to: > > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > >Lovelock family history Web pages: > >http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/> > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237> > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks Steve Remarkably there are no Polperro Lovelocks - has the Colony moved to pastures new?! Best Wishes John Lovelock Hedgerley Buckinghamshire -----Original Message----- From: TnS750@aol.com [mailto:TnS750@aol.com] Sent: 02 July 2003 15:54 To: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Cornish Lovelocks as of 2001 Hi John Here is a list of the Lovelocks in Cornwall as of 2001 electoral roll : 1. FRANCO LOVELOCK 87 TREVITHICK TREVITHICK ESTATE ST. MERRYN PADSTOW CORNWALL PL288NN 2. TRACY A LOVELOCK 13 DANIELL ROAD TRURO CORNWALL TR1 2BZ 3. JOHN L LOVELOCK 6 FORE STREET LOSTWITHIEL CORNWALL PL220BP 4. MARY P LOVELOCK 6 FORE STREET LOSTWITHIEL CORNWALL PL220BP 5. SAMANTHA J LOVELOCK VICTORIA HOUSE EAST STREET NEWQUAY CORNWALL TR7 1EE 6. JULIE L LOVELOCK THE ANNEXE 26 HEADLAND ROAD NEWQUAY CORNWALL TR7 1HN 7. EMMA K LOVELOCK MILLADON FM TRERULEFOOT SALTASH CORNWALL PL125BU 8. PATRICIA D LOVELOCK 2 TREWEESE ROAD QUETHIOCK LISKEARD CORNWALL PL143SW 9. MATTHEW J LOVELOCK TOWN PLACE ST. NEOT LISKEARD CORNWALL PL146NR 10. RICHARD J LOVELOCK 28 STEPHENS ROAD LISKEARD CORNWALL PL143SX 11. SUSAN C LOVELOCK 28 STEPHENS ROAD LISKEARD CORNWALL PL143SX 12. ETHEL M LOVELOCK ROSE COTTAGE PONSONGATH COVERACK HELSTON CORNWALL TR126SQ 13. JOYCE M LOVELOCK 16 TRENETHICK AVENUE HELSTON CORNWALL TR138LU 14. JEREMY O LOVELOCK 5 BELMONT ROAD HELSTON CORNWALL TR138UA 15. PATINA V LOVELOCK 5 BELMONT ROAD HELSTON CORNWALL TR138UA 16. LEONARD G LOVELOCK 80 FORE STREET PRAZE CAMBORNE CORNWALL TR140JU 17. PAULINE LOVELOCK 80 FORE STREET PRAZE CAMBORNE CORNWALL TR140JU 18. CAROL LOVELOCK THE KLOOF TRESAVEAN LANNER REDRUTH CORNWALL TR166JW 19. RICHARD G LOVELOCK THE KLOOF TRESAVEAN LANNER REDRUTH CORNWALL TR166JW 20. LINDA J LOVELOCK 22 BARRIPPER ROAD CAMBORNE CORNWALL TR147QW 21. STEPHEN E LOVELOCK 22 BARRIPPER ROAD CAMBORNE CORNWALL TR147QW 22. JAMES E LOVELOCK COOMBE MILL ST. GILES-ON-THE-HEATH LAUNCESTON CORNWALL PL159RY 23. JOHN C LOVELOCK COOMBE MILL ST. GILES-ON-THE-HEATH LAUNCESTON CORNWALL PL159RY 24. PHILLIP D LOVELOCK MILLADON FM TRERULEFOOT SALTASH CORNWALL PL125BU 25. ETHEL M LOVELOCK ROSE COTTAGE GWENTER ROAD COVERACK HELSTON CORNWALL TR126SJ In general, Tracys and Samanthas tend to be too young to know much about Family History , while Ethels are getting on a bit -they may know a lot , but dont have Email. A compromise is to contact Lindas-who are invariably my age (58) . Have fun ! By the way -isnt it time you Lovelocks organised (i) a ONe Name Study with GOONS (ii) a y chromasome DNA study with Professor Sykes of Oxford ancestors ? Steve Tanner , in sunny Carmarthen Wales ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi John Maybe they commute to Polperro. Its a pretty crowded little place-not much room for residential property . Maybe they just drive in to manage their businesses . What about thoughts on the footnote to my previous message ? Steve

Hi James James Lovelock has advised me that his father's name is Tom ( Thomas) Arthur. Unfortunately he hasn't provided the place of birth but his letter indicates that this event took place at Farnborough near Wantage in 1872 and he was one of 13 children. Can any Listers find him on the 1881 Census? I also asked James if he knew anything about the Lovelocks of Polperro in South East Cornwall. Whilst on holiday in the area a couple of years ago I noticed several shops in the village run by Lovelocks and was told by another shopkeeper that there was quite a Colony of Lovelocks! James said that he was aware of this enterprising branch of the family but did not know anyone there. Does anyone have any knowledge of this branch and when they moved to the area? Best Wishes John -----Original Message----- From: James Loveluck [mailto:james.loveluck@numericable.fr] Sent: 23 June 2003 20:17 To: John Lovelock Cc: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: James Lovelock Hello John, Well this is certainly an interesting connection - your announcement in the Newbury News is turning out to be very fruitful! Its unfortunate that James Lovelock doesn't give quite enough information to track down his Lovelock branch, or at least not in the letter which you forwarded. It would be nice to have a least the first name of his father, and perferably his place of birth. In fact, I have some credit left at 1837online, so I did a lookup for Lovelock births in 1919, and found the corresponding record in the 3rd quarter, for Hitchin RD, vol. 3a, page 1145. Perhaps you could suggest to James that he take a look at the Lovelock Web site, and that he browse around to see if he can find any likely ancestors! I'd be more than happy to help him out! John Lovelock wrote: Dear James I received a fascinating letter from James Lovelock (from his home in Cornwall) on Friday and e mailed him requesting his permission to circulate the contents of his letter to The List. James has since given me permission to share his genealogy and I therefore reproduce his letter in full below: " Dear John Lovelock 17 June 2003 A friend who lives in Newbury passed on your announcement in the Newbury News about a reunion of the Lovelock families. Although I am not personally much interested in genealogy I thought you might like the few details of my family history for your data base. My father's family came from the Latin Down area on the hills above Wantage, nearest village Farnborough.Grandfather worked at the Brickworks owned by the Lousley family. Father, born 1872 died 1956, was one of 13 children. He moved to Brixton London in his teen age. I was born at Letchworth Garden City, my mother's home, in 1919. As a child I remember an Uncle Fred Lovelock, who also lived in Brixton, and an aunt Lilly who lived in Didcot and was married to a Herman. There were also cousins living in Portsmouth. My father's sister Clara lived close by and she was married to Frank Guichard. The only other point of interest is that there is some evidence of Inuit (Baffin Island) ancestry in my father's family. In my case the Blood Group Laboratory of Boston USA were prepared to say the odds were over a million to one that my ancestry included an Inuit. I hope that this information is helpful, if not just transfer it to the bin. With all best wishes >From James Lovelock CH CBE CChem FRS " Best Wishes John Lovelock Hedgerley Buckinghamshire England -----Original Message----- From: James Loveluck [mailto:james.loveluck@numericable.fr] Sent: 06 January 2003 17:24 To: John Lovelock Cc: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: New Year Honours Thanks to John and Michael for keeping a sharp eye on the New Year Honours! Even though James E. Lovelock is well known, in family history terms he remains a bit of a mystery. Does anyone know of a connection with other Lovelock branches? Regards, James John Lovelock wrote: Happy New Year Lovelock Listers. Spotted in The Times Tuesday 31st December 2002: ORDER OF THE COMPANIONS OF HONOUR James Ephraim Lovelock Scientist, inventor and author, services to global environmental science. Best Wishes John Lovelock ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237