On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:47:27 +0100 daphneking wrote: > Probably not the same Coopers or Barkers, but my Lovelocks have > contacts with these families. > > Thomas Lovelock of Crondall, Hants. b. 1817 m. Mary Ann Cooper of > Hartley Wintney, Hants b. 1827 > > Thomas Lovelock b. 1852 0f Hartley Wintney m. Maria Jane Barker of > Sulham, Berks. b. 1854. Siblings. Sarah; Eliza Margaretta; Edward > Edgington; Henry William; Kezia; Isabella. Hello Daphne Sorry, I don't have any of these names in my Heckfield data. Apart from the Occomore connections which are in the Lovelock files on the Website my only other Lovelock connection in the north east of Hampshire is Elizabeth Lovelock (born about Nov 1696 at Swallowfield) who married Jonathan Lewington (also born about 1696) on 18 Oct 1716. I have recorded a number of children for this couple. A 2xgt-grandaughter, Martha, was to marry Charles Nevill(e) at Heckfield on 17 Oct 1835 and one of their daughters, Eliza, married Charles Barker at Mattingley on 14 Sep 1872 and in doing so became my gt-grandparents. I have no idea at present who Elizabeth Lovelock's parents were or if she is listed any where on the Lovelock website. I would be interested in any info about her. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

I have been browsing the Lovelock website to see if I can find any mention of the twiglet I have from Kingsclere without any success. My interst in the Lovelock stems from the marriage of Lovelocks into my Cooper & Foster families. I also have a more remote interest with the marriage of my step-grandfather John Hart to an Occomore, a descendant of a Lovelock marriage. The twiglet I have looks like this To the 5th generation. William Lovelock ca 1780 &1810 Ann Tucker 1. Edward Lovelock ca 1811-ca 1877 &1834 Mary Ann May ca 1815 1.1. Joseph Lovelock ca 1846-/1910 &1869 Mary Jeffery ca 1851 1.1.1. Harriet Ann Lovelock ca 1870 1.1.2. Edwin John Lovelock ca 1872 1.1.3. Martha Lovelock ca 1875 1.1.4. Mary Elizabeth Lovelock ca 1877 1.1.5. Joseph David Lovelock ca 1880 1.1.6. Beatrice Eugenia Lovelock ca 1882 &1910 Alresford Cooper ca 1873-ca 1948 1.1.6.1. David Geoffrey Cooper ca 1913 1.1.6.2. Mary Cooper ca 1914 &1934 William Leslie Dolton ca 1903 1.1.6.3. Nora Gladys Cooper ca 1915 &1933 Reginald Edward Gillman ca 1911 1.1.6.4. George Cooper ca 1918 1.1.6.5. Maurice Cooper 1919-1974 &1941 Olive Winifred Lane 1921 1.1.6.5.1. David John Cooper ca 1942- 1.1.6.5.2. Diane Irene Cooper 1947-1947 1.1.6.5.3. Brian Arthur Cooper ca 1951- 1.1.6.5.4. Margaret Euginee Cooper ca 1954- 1.1.6.6. Cecil Cooper 1920 1.1.6.7. Hilda Cooper ca 1921 1.1.7. Harry Lovelock ca 1885-1885 1.1.8. Sydney Alfred Jeffery Lovelock ca 1886 1.1.9. George Lovelock ca 1888 &1915 Eliza Maria Hutchins ca 1889 1.1.9.1. Violet Ruby Lovelock ca 1917- 1.1.10. Thomas Edward Lovelock ca 1891 1.2. Mary Jane Lovelock ca 1848 1.3. Elizabeth Lovelock ca 1850 1.4. John Lovelock ca 1852-1877 &1873 Julia Smith ca 1855 1.4.1. Ismay Annie Lovelock 1874 1.4.2. William Charles Lovelock ca 1876-/1881 1.5. Thomas Lovelock ca 1855-1942 &1874 Eliza Foster ca 1857-1921 1.5.1. Martha A Lovelock ca 1880 1.6. Alfred Edwin Lovelock 1858-1859 1.7. Stephen Alfred Lovelock ca 1866 1.8. Sarah Ann Lovelock 1872 1.9. Julia Lovelock 2. John Lovelock ca 1813 3. Hannah Lovelock ca 1815 4. Mary Lovelock ca 1820 -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E)

Hi Paul I think we were in touch a while ago, weren't we? One chap I know who is also descended from the Shipton Moyne Lovelocks is : Geoffrey Isaac address: "Blaenyr Oerfa" Tynygraig , Ystrad Meurig , Ceredigion, SY 25 6AH \tel: 01974 261589 EMAIL ; fhmage @lineone.net -at least that was his email when I contacted him in November 2001 , Geoffrey , who is 72 , is descended from Elizabeth Lovelock b 1799 Shipton Moyne who married John Rickards . I am from Elizabeths sister Maria, who married my 2xgreat Charles Tanner . As you know, Elizabeth and Maria were both daughters of Thomas Lovelock and his wife Mary nee Saunders. I believe that Thomas's father was Richard ... but have been stuck on any further links ... Another person from the same line is : Janet Taulbut 40 Crawte Avenue Holbury Southampton SO 45 2GQ who is also from the Rickard marriage . Janet and I exchanged info a couple of years ago -I dont have an email address for her . Cheers for now Steve Tanner from a steamy Carmarthen

Is there anyone else out there who is a descendent of the Shipton Moyne branch of the family? SM = Shipton Moyne My descent is Ggrandfather William Arthur born SM 30/12/1860 m Eva Georgina Hullance (of Alderton Wiltshire, his half brother's sister in law) Derby 1888, GGgrandfather John born SM 15/5/1812 m Ann Little SM 1859 (John's second wife, first was Ann Workman m SM 14 Oct 1833)GGGgrandfather Thomas m Mary Saunders SM 16 Jun 1799 no other dates, GGGGgrandfather Richard m Mary White 15 Sep 1777 Hankerton no other dates. Paul Whitaker in Derby __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

Hello Graham Thank you for responding. I don't know exactly where gf William was in 1901. I would assume that he was in London. He was born in Stoke Newington - 1867 He married Emma Eliza Atkins in 1894 at Bow Common She was born in Bromley - 1875 Children - Mary Jane - 1894 Bromley William, George, Lily, Daisy Then Harry - 1902 in West Ham Stephen (my father) - 1904 in South Leyton Then John, Walter, and Edward. The next information that I have is that they are in Oshawa, Canada in 1924. I have been a little frustrated with the lack of information, but will keep plugging along. Any pointers would be helpful. Thanks again Mike Lovelock

I’m afraid I can’t help you, Mike, with respect to any research on your line. However, we are aware of the two following Census entries which provide a link between Pewsey and Staffordshire, and curiously in 1901 between Pewsey, Staffordshire and Stoke Newington. Can you provide any background? In the 1881 Census: RG11 2788 F64 P23 Tettonhallwood Road Tettonhall Staffs James Lovelock Head 34 Coachman General Pewsey, Wilts Eunice Lovelock Wife 34 Exton, Rutland Florence Lovelock Daur 8 London James W Lovelock Son 5 Billbrook, Staffs In the 1901 Census: RG13 2621 F81 P17 Kingpersley Gardens Biddulph Leek Charles Lovelock Head 42 Evangelist C of E Pewsey Mary Ann Lovelock Wife 46 Wisbeach (sic), Cambs Sylvia May Edna Lovelock Daur 12 Newington, London Ruth Eva Kent Lovelock Daur 10 Luton, Beds Walter E Ernest Lovelock Son 8 Newington, London Cecil C Maspers Boarder 18 Apprentice Iron Turning Sutton, Surrey John Percy Prince Boarder 21 Apprentice Iron Turner (Forge) Stoke on Trent, Staffs By the way, where was your grandfather in 1901, as, if I read our records properly, he does not appear to have been in London. Have we missed something? Regards Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mykeinon" <michael.lovelock@sympatico.ca> To: <LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:31 AM Subject: Family Line > > > Hello Loveys > > I have been reading for a while now and quickly came to the conclusion > that I was not part of your Lovelock branch but greatly enjoyed reading the news > as it came. > My father, Steve Lovelock was born in South Leyton, Essex - 1904 > His father, William Lovelock was born in Stoke Newington - 1867 > His father Thomas Lovelock was born in Stafford - 1843, according to the 1881 > census. > Does anyone in the group know of anyone researching this line? > I would appreciate a pointer as I am having a difficult time finding information. > > Thank you. > > Mike Lovelock > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

On the subject of sources, I learned from the Glamorgan mailing list that the IGI section on the FamilySearch Web pages has been enhanced - see details below. James This was copied from the Family Search website. Thanks to the Manchester Mailing List and the List Owners E & W for this information. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Updated International Genealogical Index of the International Genealogical Index is now available on the FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service (FamilySearch Internet). This new version contains the following enhancements: * More Names. More names have been added to the index. These names were received since the last release in January 2000. * Regular updates. The index will be updated as new information is received. Note: There are no current plans to update the International Genealogical Index on compact disc. * Individuals linked into families. Some individuals are linked into families and can be displayed on family groups and pedigree charts. The number of linked individuals is relatively small but is expected to grow significantly in the future. You can also download family group records and pedigree charts. * Additional event information. All events that were in original user submissions are now displayed and can be used as search criteria. * Improved searching. You can now search the index by given name, surname and state, and more types of events, even across regions. The processes used to find individuals in spite of spelling and other differences in the name have also been improved. * Information to describe the source. When you display an individual¹s records, you will see messages that describe the source of the information.

Hello all, I've updated the "Lovelocks Alive 2004" Web page to include some pretty photos of the Bear and the canal (courtesy of John Lovelock) and a street plan, all sent to me by Jeremy Lovelock. Regards, James

Back again ....... In some off-list correspondence I have speculated with Sian as to where other records on Frederick John might be found. There is no parish of Chelworth, and looking at the map I would guess that if he was baptised it would either be in Crudwell or Oaksey. We have no data on the Website from either parish. HOWEVER, .... some recent perusing of the 1881 Census data courtesy of the LDS turned up the following two records: Source Information: Dwelling The Street Census Place Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Family History Library Film 1341488 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2025 / 29 Page Number 7 Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation John LOVELOCK Head M Male 50 Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Carpenter Mary A. LOVELOCK Wife M Female 53 Hankerton, Wiltshire, England and this one: Source Information: Dwelling Earls Corner Census Place Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Family History Library Film 1341488 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2025 / 30 Page Number 9 Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Ann RICKETTS Head W Female 81 Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Mark RICKETTS Son U Male 40 Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Agl Labourer George LOVELOCK Visitor U Male 62 Oaksey, Wiltshire, England Carpenter I do not believe we generally knew of these Lovelocks, although the information will not be new to you all I expect. After my last visit to the Trowbridge office I certainly have no intention of returning there this week, but anyone braver than me, or with alternative access to records might like to volunteer to do a search of Oaksey and Crudwell? Regards Graham In a Yate as hot and muggy as anywhere in the UK I suspect. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sian davies" <c.j.davies@telco4u.net> To: <LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:24 PM Subject: Frederick John Lovelock b Chelworth, Malmesbury > Many thanks to all who have been helping me find the birthplace of Frederick John. I now have his birth certificate and he was born in Chelworth. Registration District Malmesbury. > Whilst I was in hospital I had an email from Paul asking if Frederick might be linked to his ancestors from Shipton Mallet. As my son deleted the email before I got home I have been unable to reply. If you would get in touch again Paul I can email you. You must be thinking me very rude! > Graham who has been so helpful thinks this maybe a new line. Frederick's parents were James Lovelock and Jane Bruid or possibly Brerid, the middle bit is a bit difficult to read in the copper plate writing, but it is definitely Br id and he was born 20th August 1870. > > I have booked The Bear and am looking forward to meeting more of the family next year. > > Sincerely > > Sian > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Good evening all. This is just to let any of you know who have not yet discovered it that the FreeCen site went live recently. Its address is: http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl The data will be drawn from the 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, and 1891 Census Returns. At present they only have LOVELOCK data in their 1891 records, and I have extracted all this (a mere 10 records) and sent it to James, for eventual inclusion, perhaps, on the Website. We will obviously need to keep a watching brief on this resource as it grows, but you may find other non-Lovelock data on there which will help your researches. Happy hunting! Regards Graham

Many thanks to all who have been helping me find the birthplace of Frederick John. I now have his birth certificate and he was born in Chelworth. Registration District Malmesbury. Whilst I was in hospital I had an email from Paul asking if Frederick might be linked to his ancestors from Shipton Mallet. As my son deleted the email before I got home I have been unable to reply. If you would get in touch again Paul I can email you. You must be thinking me very rude! Graham who has been so helpful thinks this maybe a new line. Frederick's parents were James Lovelock and Jane Bruid or possibly Brerid, the middle bit is a bit difficult to read in the copper plate writing, but it is definitely Br id and he was born 20th August 1870. I have booked The Bear and am looking forward to meeting more of the family next year. Sincerely Sian

Hello Loveys I have been reading for a while now and quickly came to the conclusion that I was not part of your Lovelock branch but greatly enjoyed reading the news as it came. My father, Steve Lovelock was born in South Leyton, Essex - 1904 His father, William Lovelock was born in Stoke Newington - 1867 His father Thomas Lovelock was born in Stafford - 1843, according to the 1881 census. Does anyone in the group know of anyone researching this line? I would appreciate a pointer as I am having a difficult time finding information. Thank you. Mike Lovelock

Well done Graham!! What tenacity in that heat!! I guess the family 'rumour' re Malmesbury was not correct. But the negative searches are still a useful addition to our knowledge. I think Sian will really have to try and locate the marriage certificate of Frederick John Lovelock and Eliza Jane Tillman. Since Frederick William is the eldest, it would be logical to start looking at the GRO indexes from the date of his birth and work backwards. Hopefully they had their first born within a few years of their marriage. To save the cost of obtaining too many certificates, once she finds a likely marriage, she can check the volume and folio numbers for the same year and quarter for Elizabeth Jane Tillman. If they match, there's an excellent change that she's found the right marriage. Then she can order the certificate. That's what I'd do anyway. What do the rest of you think? Best wishes Robert > As it happened, I was able to visit the Record Office at > Trowbridge late yesterday, wherein the temperature under that > metal roof must have been approaching 100 degrees Fahrenheit, > and check out a few records. > I wonder where to suggest Sian might look next? > Iam looking for the parents and sibling descendents of > Frederick John. I > cannot find any information about his birth or marriage to > Eliza Jane Tillman. He ended up living in Merton Surrey at > least from 1930 onwards. He died in Surbiton Surrey on 28th > Dec 1943. He had 4 children the eldest Frederick William, my > husbands grandfather, was born in Streatham nearby to Merton. > Rumour has it that Frederick John's father was born in > Malmesbury as well. He had a brother Charles who was a dairy > farmer in the 1930s living in Earley outside Reading. > Frederick John was a builder. Any informantion would be most > appreciated.

I have now had further discussions with the Manager at The Bear Hotel in Hungerford and wish to clarify the procedure for booking places at the Event and accommodation at The Bear. EVENT BOOKINGS Event Bookings should be sent to Janet and Jeremy Lovelock. Janet and Jeremy are preparing a Booking Form and copies can be obtained by e mailing jlovelock@tesco.net or telephoning 01269-842336. HOTEL ACCOMMODATION AT THE BEAR To book accommodation at the special rate ( £46.50 per person for one night's Bed & Breakfast Accommodation and £35.00 for two or more nights ) e mail the Manager ( Mr McNicoll ) quoting 'Lovelock Party ' to sales.bear@ramadajarvis.co.uk. For added security please note that this e mail address can only be viewed by Mr McNicoll. Alternatively Telephone 01488-682512. Credit Card details will be requested but the Account will not be charged until the event in June next year. Accommodation can be cancelled up to 7 days before the event at no charge thereafter cancellations incur charges on a sliding scale ( to be advised ). I enquired about single occupancy of rooms and was advised that the Hotel has 3 single bedrooms and these would be filled first. Once these are full a Supplement of £10 per night may be charged ( at the Manager's discretion ) for single occupancy of a double or twin bedded room. Best Wishes John Lovelock Event Co-ordinator Hedgerley buckinghamshire

As it happened, I was able to visit the Record Office at Trowbridge late yesterday, wherein the temperature under that metal roof must have been approaching 100 degrees Fahrenheit, and check out a few records. I checked the Baptisms for Malmesbury (the Abbey Church of Saint Peter and Saint Paul) from 7 June 1838 to 27 April 1879 and found NO LOVELOCK entries. On the off-chance that Sian's great-grandfather-in-law haled from around Malmesbury rather than in it I also checked the following for LOVELOCK Baptisms, and again found NO entries: Easton Grey : 11 Aug 1850 to 01 May 1892 Great Somerford : 27 Jan 1867 to 06 Jun 1880 Little Somerford: 31 Mar 1861 to 23 Sep 1877 Hullavington : 05 Feb 1860 to 21 Sep 1879 Westport St Mary : 06 Oct 1867 to 04 May 1873 Charlton St Peter : 07 Jan 1869 to 28 Oct 1888 Stanton St Quintin : 02 Aug 1869 to 29 Mar 1883 James - you may wish to add the above to the "No findings" part of the Wiltshire Sources Page? I wonder where to suggest Sian might look next? Regards Graham (In a Yate which has not yet been reached by all that precipitational wet-stuff they have promised us, and which in consequence is still in a slightly molten state!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "sian davies" <c.j.davies@telco4u.net> To: <LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: Frederick John Lovelock b20 Aug 1870 in Malmesbury > Iam looking for the parents and sibling descendents of Frederick John. I cannot find any information about his birth or marriage to Eliza Jane Tillman. He ended up living in Merton Surrey at least from 1930 onwards. He died in Surbiton Surrey on 28th Dec 1943. He had 4 children the eldest Frederick William, my husbands grandfather, was born in Streatham nearby to Merton. Rumour has it that Frederick John's father was born in Malmesbury as well. He had a brother Charles who was a dairy farmer in the 1930s living in Earley outside Reading. Frederick John was a builder. Any informantion would be most appreciated.Thank you. Sian Lovelock > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Gang This maybe of interest to someone. Pigot & Co 1830 Berkshire SURNAME FIRSTNAME AREA PAGE Lovelock Francis Hungerford 35 Lovelock Job Wallingford 59 Lovelock Job Wallingford 59 Lovelock Richard Newbury 44 Lovelock William Wallingford 59 Lovelock Wm Wallingford 59 From http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pobjoyoneill/tradedir/brk1830/brk1830.htm

Further to my message yesterday please note that the Event will take place on Saturday 12th not 14th June. Best Wishes John Lovelock Hedgerley Bucks UK

Hello all, I've now started a Web page for information about the "Lovelocks Alive 2004" event. You will find a link to it in the sidebar and also on the home page (Introduction) as well as on the What's New page. I haven't included the details of costs and accomodation arrangements, which were provided in the recent message from John. Book now while places are available! James

Hello all, I've made some updates to the Web pages to include Lovelock extracts from the Boyd's Marriage Index, provided by Robert Sterry. Details are as follows (see also the "What's New" page): 15-Jul-03: Updated the following files to the latest versions provided by Robert Sterry: (this update includes extracts from Boyd's marriage index) Lovelocks in Berkshire by Parish Lovelocks in Hampshire by Parish Lovelocks in Gloucestershire by Parish 15-Jul-03: Added the following file provided by Robert Sterry: Lovelock Extracts from Boyd's Index (also included in county files as above) More to follow .... Regards, James

Greetings Lovelock Listers from a Hot and Sunny London. I am pleased to advise you that the event venue has now been selected. The Planning Group met in Hungerford last Friday and following an inspection of the facilities at The Bear Hotel agreed that this would be the perfect venue for our Lovelock Family History Gathering next year. The Bear Hotel is run by the International Hotel Company Jarvis details of which cancan be found on their Website: www.ramadajarvis.co.uk <http://www.ramadajarvis.co.uk/> The Hotel was once owned by Henry VII and Henry VIII and during the coaching era was a popular stopping point for coaches travelling from London to Bath. There are 41 comfortable bedrooms, many of which overlook the River Dunn. James Loveluck is setting up a special Lovelocks Alive 2004 page on the Lovelock Website which will be available shortly. The cost per person will be £40 and includes: * Morning Presentations/Displays * Buffet Lunch * Half Day ( Afternoon ) Coach Excursion To Wiltshire Villages associated with early Lovelock families * Three Course Dinner ( with a Guest Speaker ) The Hotel are offering a discounted accommodation ( Bed & Breakfast ) rate for stays of two nights or more for people who wish to stay at the venue. The rate ( per person ) for a single night is £ 46.50 and for two or more nights is £35.00 per person. To take advantage of this discount bookings must be made through Janet and Jeremy Lovelock. If you wish to stay in other local accommodation please ensure that you have booked your place at the event first. To book your place at the Event please send a ( non-refundable ) deposit (Cheque/International Money Order to be made payable to J Lovelock ) in the sum of £15 with the balance of £25 payable by the 10th May 2004. Please note that payments for accommodation should be made in full. Please indicate if you have any special requirements e.g. dietary. Bookings should be sent to: Janet and Jeremy Lovelock Llwyn Y Wennol Milo Llandybie AMMANFORD Carmarthenshire SA18 3NZ United Kingdom Telephone: 01269-842336 E Mail : jlovelock@tesco.net We have to restrict numbers attending the event to 75 people which is the capacity of the Meeting Room. Therefore an early booking is recommended to avoid disappointment. For visitors staying at the Hotel ( or nearby ) on the Saturday night it may be possible ( subject to demand ) to arrange a half day cruise on the Kennet and Avon Canal on the Sunday morning ( with Buffet Lunch ) aboard the Narrow Boat 'Rose of Hungerford'. If you would be interested in this excursion please advise Janet and Jeremy when booking your place at the event. Best Wishes John Lovelock - Event Co-ordinator Graham Lovelock - Excursions Janet & Jeremy Lovelock- Bookings Hedgerley Yate Milo Llandybie Buckinghamshire Gloucestershire Carmarthenshire U.K. UK UK