In the 1881 UK Census of Wootton Rivers (WR) the following household occurs: John Aldridge Head M Male 65 WR Carrier Martha Aldridge Wife M Female 60 WR William A. Aldridge Son U Male 16 WR Charlotte Lovelock Daur M Female 29 WR James Lovelock Gr Son Male 8 WR Robert Lovelock Gr Son Male 1 Peckham ((Kent)) Surrey I found that Charlotte Aldridge was christened in WR on 11 Apr 1852 (parents John and Martha Aldridge), and FreeBMD suggests that the marriage of Charlotte Aldridge to a Henry Lovelock was recorded in Pewsey Q3 1871. In the WR baptism's I found 1872 Jun 2 Henry James son of Henry and Charlotte Lovelock, Abode: Wootton Rivers, Carpenter 1876 Sep 3 Thomas son of Henry & Charlotte Lovelock, Abode: Wootton Rivers, Carpenter 1880 Oct 2 Robert William Oliver (of) Henry & Charlotte Lovelock, Abode: Peckham Linder, Carpenter My question: To which of the Lovelock branches does this fragment belong? I was unable to locate these Lovelocks in the 1891 UK census. Thanks. David Lovelock

I am sure someone will be able to put me right if I am in error, but is the "rule" not that if both parents turn up to register the birth they will both be named on the certificate, even though not married? Presumably the GRO clerks would have noted the different surnames, concluded that the parents were not married, and thus, following GRO rules, would have entered the mother's surname as the child's. This raises an interesting question: if one's surname is not actually recorded on the Birth Certificate, when does one "officially" acquire a surname? Do the GRO records have any true status in law in this respect? Regards Graham Yate S Glos From: Grahame Arnold <maybach@md850.fsnet.co.uk> Reply-To: maybach@md850.fsnet.co.uk To: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Hartley Wintney Lovelocks - fragment Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:17:32 +0200 (CEST) Another fragment has come my way which may be of interest to someone. The website gives an excellent list of HW Lovelock BMD's 1837-1881, 1 of these entries is as follows, in full: Birth, 14th August 1858. Father : James Smith. Mother : Mary Ann Lovelock, Hartley Wintney. The GRO registers show this child as having the Lovelock name, but from the certificate it is not possible to tell. Obviously this was an "out-of-wedlock" occasion, however it turned out not to be a direct connection although an indirect one is likely, given so many in HW! Grahame Arnold, Ottershaw, Surrey UK ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

Another fragment has come my way which may be of interest to someone. The website gives an excellent list of HW Lovelock BMD's 1837-1881, 1 of these entries is as follows, in full: Birth, 14th August 1858. Father : James Smith. Mother : Mary Ann Lovelock, Hartley Wintney. The GRO registers show this child as having the Lovelock name, but from the certificate it is not possible to tell. Obviously this was an "out-of-wedlock" occasion, however it turned out not to be a direct connection although an indirect one is likely, given so many in HW! Grahame Arnold, Ottershaw, Surrey UK

Well spotted Dianne! I realized my mistake this morning and was about to send a correction. A classic error of relying on my memory rather than my Diary. Best Wishes John Lovelock -----Original Message----- From: Dianne Snowden [mailto:dsnowden@tassie.net.au] Sent: 11 September 2003 00:17 To: John Lovelock Subject: Re: Lovelocks Alive 2004 - Update September 2003 Hi John - it is the 12 June still and not the 14 June, isn't it? Dianne in Richmond (Tasmania Australia) John Lovelock wrote: May I take this opportunity to thank all the Lovelock Listers who have contacted Janet and Jeremy Lovelock to book places at the Lovelock Gathering in Hungerford Berkshire on the 14th June next year.

John, Congratulations! You've done a very good job on this line. Would you mind if I added it to the "Lovelock fragments"? Regards, James John Lewis wrote: >On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:51:07 -0700 >David Lovelock wrote: > > >>On the Lovelock Family History website >>(http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/), >> >> > >Thanks to info on this website I have been able to put together a more >comprehensive Lovelock tree for the Kingsclere Lovelocks. It looks >like: > >Descendants of Francis Lovelock >To the 7th generation. > >Francis Lovelock ca 1720 &1743 Ann Payne >1. James Lovelock 1744 & Mary ? >1.1. Mary Lovelock ca 1761 >2. Francis Lovelock 1745 &1781 Ann Webb >2.1. William Lovelock 1783 &1810 Ann Tucker >2.1.1. Edward Lovelock ca 1811-ca 1877 &1834 Mary Ann May ca 1815 >2.1.1.1. Sarah Ann Lovelock 1835 >2.1.1.2. William Lovelock 1837 >2.1.1.3. Martha Lovelock ca 1840 >2.1.1.4. Edward Lovelock ca 1843 &ca 1866 Hannah N.. +/1881 >2.1.1.4.1. Stephen Alfred Lovelock ca 1866 >2.1.1.4.2. Alfred Lovelock ca 1867 >2.1.1.4.3. Agnes Lovelock 1870 >2.1.1.4.4. Sarah Ann Lovelock 1872 >2.1.1.4.5. Julia Lovelock >2.1.1.5. Joseph Lovelock ca 1845-/1910 &1869 Mary Jeffery ca 1851 >2.1.1.5.1. Harriet Ann Lovelock ca 1870 >2.1.1.5.2. Edwin John Lovelock ca 1872 >2.1.1.5.3. Martha Lovelock ca 1875 >2.1.1.5.4. Mary Elizabeth Lovelock ca 1877 >2.1.1.5.5. Joseph David Lovelock ca 1880 >2.1.1.5.6. Beatrice Eugenia Lovelock ca 1882 &1910 Alresford Cooper ca >1873-ca 1948 >2.1.1.5.6.1. David Geoffrey Cooper ca 1913 >2.1.1.5.6.2. Mary Cooper ca 1914 &1934 William Leslie Dolton ca 1903 >2.1.1.5.6.3. Nora Gladys Cooper ca 1915 &1933 Reginald Edward Gillman >ca 1911 >2.1.1.5.6.4. George Cooper ca 1918 >2.1.1.5.6.5. Maurice Cooper 1919-1974 &1941 Olive Winifred Lane 1921 >2.1.1.5.6.5.1. David John Cooper ca 1942- >2.1.1.5.6.5.2. Diane Irene Cooper 1947-1947 >2.1.1.5.6.5.3. Brian Arthur Cooper ca 1951- >2.1.1.5.6.5.4. Margaret Euginee Cooper ca 1954- >2.1.1.5.6.6. Cecil Cooper 1920 >2.1.1.5.6.7. Hilda Cooper ca 1921 >2.1.1.5.7. Harry Lovelock ca 1885-1885 >2.1.1.5.8. Sydney Alfred Jeffery Lovelock ca 1886 >2.1.1.5.9. George Lovelock ca 1888 &1915 Eliza Maria Hutchins ca 1889 >2.1.1.5.9.1. Violet Ruby Lovelock ca 1917- >2.1.1.5.10. Thomas Edward Lovelock ca 1891 >2.1.1.6. Mary Jane Lovelock ca 1848 >2.1.1.7. Elizabeth Lovelock ca 1850 >2.1.1.8. John Lovelock ca 1852-1877 &1873 Julia Smith ca 1855 >2.1.1.8.1. Ismay Annie Lovelock 1874 >2.1.1.8.2. William Charles Lovelock ca 1876-/1881 >2.1.1.9. Thomas Lovelock ca 1855-1942 &1874 Eliza Foster ca 1857-1921 >2.1.1.9.1. Martha A Lovelock ca 1880 >2.1.1.10. Alfred Edwin Lovelock 1858-1859 >2.1.2. John Lovelock ca 1813-/1860 &1849 Rebecca Dance ca 1817 >2.1.3. Hannah Lovelock ca 1815-1820 >2.1.4. Tracy Lovelock 1820 >2.1.5. Mary Lovelock 1823 >2.1.6. Anthony Lovelock 1825-1834 >2.2. Thomas Lovelock ca 1785 &1805 Sarah Lane >2.3. Joseph Lovelock ca 1787 >2.4. Sarah Lovelock ca 1790 &1819 William Spicer >2.5. Hannah Lovelock ca 1794-1795 >2.6. George Lovelock ca 1797 &1823 Caroline Smith >3. Giles Lovelock 1750 &1772 Elizabeth Chandler >4. Richard Lovelock ca 1752-1836 & Theodosia x ca 1750-1825 >4.1. Jane Lovelock ca 1781 >4.2. Anne Lovelock ca 1783 >4.3. Richard Lovelock ca 1785 & Ann ? >4.3.1. Charlotte Lovelock ca 1808 >4.4. Sarah Lovelock ca 1787 >4.5. Francis Lovelock ca 1791-1791 >4.6. Sarah Lovelock ca 1792-1793 >4.7. George Lovelock ca 1794 >5. Amy Lovelock 1763 & ? ? &1791 Thomas Philpot >5.1. Thomas Lovelock ca 1790 >5.2. Jane Philpot ca 1792 &1812 James Moore >5.3. William Philpot ca 1793 &1812 Olive Winkworth >6. Thomas Lovelock ca 1766 > >I had hoped that Francis would be the un-named child bapt. at St. >Mary, Kingsclere on 28 Aug 1715 but I think it is more likely this was >the Mary buried on 25 Jul 1716 as the next girl bapt. on 8 Apr 1720 >was also called Mary. > >So am still looking for parents of Francis who could have been born >about 1720. Incidentally the Kingsclere & Hannington Lovelocks are >both the same family (or rather the ones listed in the 1780-1812 >Bishops Transcripts are) > >I have family connections into the Kingsclere Lovelocks through >marriage into my Cooper and Foster lines, plus I am descended directly >on my maternal Grandmother's line from an Elizabeth Lovelock born in >Swallowfield, Berks about Nov 1696 who married Jonathan Lewington on >18 Oct 1716. > > >

I'm pleased that the information was useful. I think that I'm to blame for the irreverent remark about the Xmas gifts, but I'd be happy to share the blame with Robert :-) Concerning your earlier question about living Lovelocks in Wotton Rivers, as Graham mentioned, we used to have a Wootton Rivers "correspondent", but he seems to have disappeared. I'll dig out his email address and check whether its still valid. He may also be able to help you with general informaiton about Wootton Rivers. Regards, James David Lovelock wrote: >On the Lovelock Family History website >(http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/), under >"Trees and Fragments", "Wilts Trees & Fragments", and then at the bottom of >the page "comments on fragments", we read >"5. According to the PR extracts, David and Harriet L managed to have 3 >children bap 25 December: Ann in 1852, Elizabeth in 1854 and James in 1856! >They were obviously keen on Xmas gifts!" > >As well as being a wonderful website, this is a great observation. In 1881, >David L was the parish clerk/clark of St Andrews. Could he have held that >position in the 1850s? (How could I find out?) Would this suggest that the >Xmas day baptism was special treatment, or was it just that a particular day >in mid-March was a very special occasion in the Lovelock household? (It is >not their wedding anniversary.) > >David Lovelock (David L's 2nd GGS) > > > >==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== >Lovelock family history Web pages: >http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

May I take this opportunity to thank all the Lovelock Listers who have contacted Janet and Jeremy Lovelock to book places at the Lovelock Gathering in Hungerford Berkshire on the 14th June next year. The response to date has been very encouraging. For the benefit of people who have recently subscribed to The List details of the Event and a Booking Form are on the Lovelock Web Site. In the run up to the occasion I intend to send a Monthly Bulletin to give you an updates on how the Event is developing. If in the meantime you have any questions please contact me or other members of the organising group: Janet and Jeremy Lovelock jlovelock@tesco.net Graham Lovelock lovelockgraham@hotmail.com Best Wishes John Lovelock Hedgerley Buckinghamshire

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:51:07 -0700 David Lovelock wrote: > On the Lovelock Family History website > (http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/), Thanks to info on this website I have been able to put together a more comprehensive Lovelock tree for the Kingsclere Lovelocks. It looks like: Descendants of Francis Lovelock To the 7th generation. Francis Lovelock ca 1720 &1743 Ann Payne 1. James Lovelock 1744 & Mary ? 1.1. Mary Lovelock ca 1761 2. Francis Lovelock 1745 &1781 Ann Webb 2.1. William Lovelock 1783 &1810 Ann Tucker 2.1.1. Edward Lovelock ca 1811-ca 1877 &1834 Mary Ann May ca 1815 2.1.1.1. Sarah Ann Lovelock 1835 2.1.1.2. William Lovelock 1837 2.1.1.3. Martha Lovelock ca 1840 2.1.1.4. Edward Lovelock ca 1843 &ca 1866 Hannah N.. +/1881 2.1.1.4.1. Stephen Alfred Lovelock ca 1866 2.1.1.4.2. Alfred Lovelock ca 1867 2.1.1.4.3. Agnes Lovelock 1870 2.1.1.4.4. Sarah Ann Lovelock 1872 2.1.1.4.5. Julia Lovelock 2.1.1.5. Joseph Lovelock ca 1845-/1910 &1869 Mary Jeffery ca 1851 2.1.1.5.1. Harriet Ann Lovelock ca 1870 2.1.1.5.2. Edwin John Lovelock ca 1872 2.1.1.5.3. Martha Lovelock ca 1875 2.1.1.5.4. Mary Elizabeth Lovelock ca 1877 2.1.1.5.5. Joseph David Lovelock ca 1880 2.1.1.5.6. Beatrice Eugenia Lovelock ca 1882 &1910 Alresford Cooper ca 1873-ca 1948 2.1.1.5.6.1. David Geoffrey Cooper ca 1913 2.1.1.5.6.2. Mary Cooper ca 1914 &1934 William Leslie Dolton ca 1903 2.1.1.5.6.3. Nora Gladys Cooper ca 1915 &1933 Reginald Edward Gillman ca 1911 2.1.1.5.6.4. George Cooper ca 1918 2.1.1.5.6.5. Maurice Cooper 1919-1974 &1941 Olive Winifred Lane 1921 2.1.1.5.6.5.1. David John Cooper ca 1942- 2.1.1.5.6.5.2. Diane Irene Cooper 1947-1947 2.1.1.5.6.5.3. Brian Arthur Cooper ca 1951- 2.1.1.5.6.5.4. Margaret Euginee Cooper ca 1954- 2.1.1.5.6.6. Cecil Cooper 1920 2.1.1.5.6.7. Hilda Cooper ca 1921 2.1.1.5.7. Harry Lovelock ca 1885-1885 2.1.1.5.8. Sydney Alfred Jeffery Lovelock ca 1886 2.1.1.5.9. George Lovelock ca 1888 &1915 Eliza Maria Hutchins ca 1889 2.1.1.5.9.1. Violet Ruby Lovelock ca 1917- 2.1.1.5.10. Thomas Edward Lovelock ca 1891 2.1.1.6. Mary Jane Lovelock ca 1848 2.1.1.7. Elizabeth Lovelock ca 1850 2.1.1.8. John Lovelock ca 1852-1877 &1873 Julia Smith ca 1855 2.1.1.8.1. Ismay Annie Lovelock 1874 2.1.1.8.2. William Charles Lovelock ca 1876-/1881 2.1.1.9. Thomas Lovelock ca 1855-1942 &1874 Eliza Foster ca 1857-1921 2.1.1.9.1. Martha A Lovelock ca 1880 2.1.1.10. Alfred Edwin Lovelock 1858-1859 2.1.2. John Lovelock ca 1813-/1860 &1849 Rebecca Dance ca 1817 2.1.3. Hannah Lovelock ca 1815-1820 2.1.4. Tracy Lovelock 1820 2.1.5. Mary Lovelock 1823 2.1.6. Anthony Lovelock 1825-1834 2.2. Thomas Lovelock ca 1785 &1805 Sarah Lane 2.3. Joseph Lovelock ca 1787 2.4. Sarah Lovelock ca 1790 &1819 William Spicer 2.5. Hannah Lovelock ca 1794-1795 2.6. George Lovelock ca 1797 &1823 Caroline Smith 3. Giles Lovelock 1750 &1772 Elizabeth Chandler 4. Richard Lovelock ca 1752-1836 & Theodosia x ca 1750-1825 4.1. Jane Lovelock ca 1781 4.2. Anne Lovelock ca 1783 4.3. Richard Lovelock ca 1785 & Ann ? 4.3.1. Charlotte Lovelock ca 1808 4.4. Sarah Lovelock ca 1787 4.5. Francis Lovelock ca 1791-1791 4.6. Sarah Lovelock ca 1792-1793 4.7. George Lovelock ca 1794 5. Amy Lovelock 1763 & ? ? &1791 Thomas Philpot 5.1. Thomas Lovelock ca 1790 5.2. Jane Philpot ca 1792 &1812 James Moore 5.3. William Philpot ca 1793 &1812 Olive Winkworth 6. Thomas Lovelock ca 1766 I had hoped that Francis would be the un-named child bapt. at St. Mary, Kingsclere on 28 Aug 1715 but I think it is more likely this was the Mary buried on 25 Jul 1716 as the next girl bapt. on 8 Apr 1720 was also called Mary. So am still looking for parents of Francis who could have been born about 1720. Incidentally the Kingsclere & Hannington Lovelocks are both the same family (or rather the ones listed in the 1780-1812 Bishops Transcripts are) I have family connections into the Kingsclere Lovelocks through marriage into my Cooper and Foster lines, plus I am descended directly on my maternal Grandmother's line from an Elizabeth Lovelock born in Swallowfield, Berks about Nov 1696 who married Jonathan Lewington on 18 Oct 1716. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E)

David He certainly could have, but it is notable that although he put himself down as "Bricklayer and Parish Clerk" in 1881, in 1851, 1861 and 1871 he only entered "Bricklayer". I suspect that he was not the clerk in the 1850s. However, a relative of Harriet's may well have been. We need the assistance of the other WR subscribers here. I do not know how to find out who was the clerk for the time of interest - perhaps such information is part of the current parish records? Graham L From: "David Lovelock" <lvlck@cox.net> Subject: David Lovelock (c 1814 Wootton Rivers) > ..... under "Trees and Fragments", "Wilts Trees & Fragments", "comments on fragments" > "5. According to the PR extracts, David and Harriet L managed to have 3 > children bap 25 December: Ann in 1852, Elizabeth in 1854 and James in 1856! > They were obviously keen on Xmas gifts!" > > As well as being a wonderful website, this is a great observation. In 1881, > David L was the parish clerk/clark of St Andrews. Could he have held that > position in the 1850s? (How could I find out?) Would this suggest that the > Xmas day baptism was special treatment, or was it just that a particular day > in mid-March was a very special occasion in the Lovelock household? (It is > not their wedding anniversary.) > > David Lovelock (David L's 2nd GGS)

On the Lovelock Family History website (http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/), under "Trees and Fragments", "Wilts Trees & Fragments", and then at the bottom of the page "comments on fragments", we read "5. According to the PR extracts, David and Harriet L managed to have 3 children bap 25 December: Ann in 1852, Elizabeth in 1854 and James in 1856! They were obviously keen on Xmas gifts!" As well as being a wonderful website, this is a great observation. In 1881, David L was the parish clerk/clark of St Andrews. Could he have held that position in the 1850s? (How could I find out?) Would this suggest that the Xmas day baptism was special treatment, or was it just that a particular day in mid-March was a very special occasion in the Lovelock household? (It is not their wedding anniversary.) David Lovelock (David L's 2nd GGS)

Daphne Seeing your mention of William Lovelock made me check out Fragment 10 on the Website where you will find a William Lovelock baptized at Tangley on 19 March 1792. The details of his siblings, parents and grandparents are: John Lovelock (b:Abt 1740) m. Elizabeth Cruse (b: Abt 1740 bur: 24 Sep 1770, Tangley, Hants) 18 May 1761, Tidcombe, Wilts Son: Thomas Lovelock (bap: 6 Dec 1761 Tangley, bur: 21 Jan 1836, Tangley) m. Ann Unknown, (b: Abt 1774, bur: 1 Nov1837, Chute, Wilts) Son: Uriah Lovelock bap: 5 Jun 1785 bur: 6 Jul 1785, Tangley Daur: Charlotte Lovelock bap: 15 Apr 1787, Tangley Daur: Ann Lovelock bap: 7 Mar 1790, Tangley Son: William Lovelock bap: 19 Mar 1792, Tangley Son: Charles Lovelock bap: 1 Mar 1795, Tangley bur: 13 Dec 1878, Longparish, Hants. Son : George Lovelock bap: 17 Sep 1797 Tangley d: June, 1875 Andover, Hants Son: John Lovelock bap: 2 Feb 1800, Tangley d: Jun 1867 Andover, Hants Are the two Williams actually the same person? I recall that the Tangley registers have suffered dreadfully over the years and parts are difficult to read. Has the year been read as 1791 on some occasions and 1792 on others? I certainly do not recall ever having seen any evidence of there being two Lovelock families at Tangley at that time – does anybody else have anything to suggest? One thing to take into account: with the baptism of Ann on 7 Mar 1790, and Charles on 1 Mar 1795 is it not more likely that William would be baptized in 1792 and not 1791? Regards Graham From: "daphneking" <daphneking@lud28.freeserve.co.uk> To: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Lovelocks Hartley Wintney Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 23:03:50 +0100 Hi Hartley Wintney/Crondall Lovelocks, I am wondering if my Lovelocks fit in with others from this area. Details are as follows: William Lovelock baptised 1791 at Tangley m. to Sarah son; Thomas baptised Crondall in Nov. 1817,m. Mary Ann Cooper 29th March, 1849 son, Thomas b. 1852 at Hartley Wintney, m. 23rd Aug. 1874 to Maria Jane Barker. Siblings, Thomas, Olive, Edward, William, John, George,James. Hope this liks in somewhere. From Daphne King. ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

Hi Hartley Wintney/Crondall Lovelocks, I am wondering if my Lovelocks fit in with others from this area. Details are as follows: William Lovelock baptised 1791 at Tangley m. to Sarah son; Thomas baptised Crondall in Nov. 1817,m. Mary Ann Cooper 29th March, 1849 son, Thomas b. 1852 at Hartley Wintney, m. 23rd Aug. 1874 to Maria Jane Barker. Siblings, Thomas, Olive, Edward, William, John, George,James. Hope this liks in somewhere. From Daphne King.

Hello list, Regarding the Lovelock - MUNDAY connection being discussed on the list. Strange as it may seem, I have a Loveluck- Munday grave here in Port Talbot Glamorgan which has been on my mind since I found it a few years back, it may now prove to be of some use if anyone is interested to hear more. > Regards -- Allen in Aberavon __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455

Graham, I think you have struck gold! Your James Lovelock was the father of my Great-great-grandfather, James Lovelock b 1819, older brother of your William, b 1836. I have traced the family back to Noah Lovelock, born about 1701. All the families in that area are descended from him, but I can't find him anywhere I was brought up in Chertsey, where there are still Lovelocks and their connections, so I know Ottershaw pretty well. Please give me a call on 0118 988 6106 and we can perhaps get together to sort things out and give you all the information. Regards Mary Perry (nee Lovelock)

Hello all I have this fragment if it helps anyone, turned out to be not one of our Lovelocks. BIRTH CERTIFICATE : Hartley Wintney 26 December 1863 Name : Mary Elizabeth LOVELOCK, mother Ann Lovelock nee MUNDAY (her mark) father David LOVELOCK, farm labourer Grahame Arnold, Ottershaw, Surrey

Hello all I am a new subsrciber to the list, my wife is the one with the good fortune to be descended from a Lovelock. Her Lovelocks are in the Hartley Row/Dogmersfield area, and have so far proved quite hard to track down.We have the following data, perhaps this will be of use to someone or maybe one of you has a missing piece, here it is: JAMES LOVELOCK b1795 Dogmersfield d 1881 Hartley Wintney. He married twice, first wife was dead by 1851, second wife MARY shown in 1881 census. WILLIAM LOVELOCK son of JAMES MARY JANE LOVELOCK b Hartley Row c1857 married JOHN FORD 14-08-1883 at Colden Common nr Winchester. Mary Jane lived at Weston Corbett in 1878 but was in service in 1881 in Britford, Wilts. Not much, but a start. Sounds like you Lovelocks are having a good time, gathering of the clan etc! Where can I find the website that you all refer to in the digests that I have looked at? Regards Grahame Arnold, Ottershaw, Surrey

David With luck your message will spur one or two of our Mailing List subscribers with Wootton Rivers connections into action. I have not searched the 1881 or 1891 Census Returns, but I rather think this is your Clock man in Wootton Rivers in 1901: John Spratt 43 Watch Repairer Elizabeth Spratt 50 Daisy Spratt 16 School Teacher Monitor Mary Spratt 8 Regards Graham Yate S Glos UK From: "David Lovelock" <lvlck@cox.net> To: LOVELOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Wootton Rivers Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:22:09 -0700 Hello, I am a descendent of the Wootton River Lovelocks (Grandfather Francis George b 1881 to George b. 1846 and Harriet), and have become interested in the town of Wootton Rivers (which I have not yet visited). According to the web phone books, there are no Lovelocks still living in Wootton Rivers. Can anyone tell me when the last Lovelock left Wootton Rivers? The latest I have is the birth on October 18, 1942 of a second cousin (I have the name, but presumably he is still living). Off topic, but there are a number of references on the web to a Jack Spratt having built the St. Andrew's Church clock in about 1911. However, I have not been able to locate him in either the 1881 or 1891 Census. Has anyone any information on him? Finally, any pointers to more information on the history and social life of Wootton Rivers would be appreciated - I've done the obvious Google searches. Thank you, David Lovelock Tucson, AZ, USA b. Bromley, Kent ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

Hello, I am a descendent of the Wootton River Lovelocks (Grandfather Francis George b 1881 to George b. 1846 and Harriet), and have become interested in the town of Wootton Rivers (which I have not yet visited). According to the web phone books, there are no Lovelocks still living in Wootton Rivers. Can anyone tell me when the last Lovelock left Wootton Rivers? The latest I have is the birth on October 18, 1942 of a second cousin (I have the name, but presumably he is still living). Off topic, but there are a number of references on the web to a Jack Spratt having built the St. Andrew's Church clock in about 1911. However, I have not been able to locate him in either the 1881 or 1891 Census. Has anyone any information on him? Finally, any pointers to more information on the history and social life of Wootton Rivers would be appreciated - I've done the obvious Google searches. Thank you, David Lovelock Tucson, AZ, USA b. Bromley, Kent

Hello list, Just a little observation to add to the Coychurch Lovelucks, just in case anyone is interested. First the two bapts. The Glamorgan FHS Index lists them as follows. Loveluck Catherine Jennet . John a farmer and Elizabeth Ann Loveluck. 28.June.1894 Coy High. Loveluck Thomas Morgan Evans. John a farmer and Elizabeth Ann Loveluck. 28.June.1894.Coy High. Notice no mention of Evans in first entry.? The grave C.6.Margam. Mary the wife of Edward Loveluck of Watertown died 26-9-1833. aged 35 years. Also Thomas Hopkin brother of the above named Late of Pentydla Who died 17-6-1881. aged 79.years. Stone by R.Roderick [who died 23rd June.1881. All from grave photo.] Best Regards Allen.

Hello all, I've added to the Lovelock Gathering page a link to some information (provided by Jeremy Lovelock) about alternative accommodaiton in the Hungerford area. My apologies to Jeremy for taking so long to make this available - entirely due to an oversight on my part. James