Hello all, I've made a couple of changes to the Web pages: - Added two photos of St Nicholas parish church, East Grafton to the collection of photos of places of interest <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/pics/index.htm> (Photos provided by Ruth Bickford) - Added some notes to the "Early Lovelock Fragments <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/frags-history.html>" page describing how the original collection of trees & fragments evolved into the current collection Regards, James

Hi Sian I thought I'd explain a little more about why you can't find your relatives on the Lovelocks (by parish) in Berkshire file and what you can do about it. At the same time it may be worth clarifying for other listers as well. This file represents a COMBINED summary of mainly baptism, marriage and burial LOVELOCK information SO FAR researched - mostly by people carefully scanning through an original parish register or at least a film or microfiche of the register - by all Lovelock reseachers with whom we have had contact. These files also include entries from other indexes, such as the IGI or Boyd's Marriage Index, that have been referenced. NOT ALL PARISHES HAVE BEEN RESEARCHED. And certainly not all parishes have been researched from the very earliest record to the most recent. This file was intended originally as a RESEARCH GUIDE so that you could see what had already been researched and avoid duplication. The hope was that people would then do FURTHER searching of parish registers and add to the accumulated knowledge for that county. One should be cautious with all index entries as they are prone to errors and omissions. Original parish records should always be referenced if at all possible. For example, Sian, you have found out that your James Frederick Lovelock was born in 'Childrey Wantage' Sep qtr 1838. I assume you have the birth certificate which shows that he was born in the REGISTRATION DISTRICT of Wantage. However, as you undoubtedly know, this does not tell us exactly what parish he was BAPTISED in. The RD of Wantage includes the following the following parishes Aldworth, Ardington, Beedon, Blewbury, Brightwalton, Catmore, Chaddleworth, Charlton, Childrey, Chilton, Compton, Denchworth, East Challow, East Hanney, East Hendred, East Ilsley, East Lockinge, Farnborough, Fawley, Goosey, Grove, Hampstead Norris, Harwell, Letcombe Bassett, Letcombe Regis, Peasemore, Sparsholt Upton, Wantage, West Challow, West Hanney, West Hendred, West Ilsley, West Lockinge. Your James Frederick could have been baptised at any of them. However, Childrey is of course the most likely. If you check what we have in the combined file for Lovelocks in Childrey, you will see that baptisms for Childrey have only been searched up until 1812. Searching for the baptism of his father abt 1808 in 'Westcote' is a little tricky as Westcote is not a parish. In fact I'm not sure where Westcote, Berkshire is. I can't find it in my AA Atlas. The nearest I can see is Westcott in Buckinghamshire. Possibly it used to be in Berkshire? We need some local knowledge here. Any offers of help? At any rate, once you do determine the likely parish, use the combined Berkshire vital records list to ascertain whether it has in fact been searched for the appropriate years. If not, then perhaps you'd consider doing some research yourself. If you can't get to the Berkshire Record Office or SOG (who have a lot of parishes but check first), it has probably been filmed by the Mormons and you can order in the film from your local LDS Family History Centre at a very reasonable cost. Hope this helps. Cheers from very pleasant and sunny Spring day at Kurrajong, Australia. Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: sian davies [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, 3 October 2004 4:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: John and James Lovelock > > > Dear Listers, > > Can anyone tied my tree into the Berkshire Lovelocks? I am > unable to get > into the tree on the website not having the software. > > > James Frederick Lovelock born Sep qtr 1838 in Childrey > Wantage parents John > b around 1808 in Westcote Berks and Harriet b Denchworth > Berks. James > married Jane Brind in Sparshot on 15 April 1865. > > I am unable to find any bmd for John on the website. Perhaps > I have missed > something. > > Thanks > > Sian Davies formally Lovelock > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I haven't paid particularly close attention to the new(ish) fragments on the Lovelock Family History website labelled 'Wroughton/Tidcombe' and 'Shrewton/Tidcombe', but it strikes me as interesting that these two lines both seem to involve Lovelocks 'moving in' from other parts of Wiltshire. PR/BT extracts 'for Tidcombe itself' (see 'Lovelocks in Wiltshire') go quite a long way back and are reasonably substantial, but appear to peter out (in terms of Lovelocks) in the mid/late C19th. I don't think a specific 'Tidcombe fragment' has ever been developed. It's also noticeable that lots of the Tidcombe PR entries have an 'of ...[elsewhere]...' dimension; this is true, for example, of at least two Lieflock line connections which 'pass through' Tidcombe, with the baptisms in 1841 and 1843 of two children of John L and Jane (nee Chouls) 'of Oxenwood' (see also Lieflock pdf Aug 04 pp. 8/9) and the baptisms in 1886 and 1889 of two children of Frederick L and Jane (nee Vockins) 'of Wexcombe' (in '86) and 'of Oxenwood' (in '89) (see also Lieflock pdf Aug 04 p. 9). I believe I'm right in saying that Frederick and Jane are your (paternal) grandparents Graham? And that your maternal line also goes through Tidcombe, in so far as John L 'of Tangley' and Elizabeth (nee Cruse) married there in 1761. Tidcombe's not very close (relatively speaking) to either Wroughton or Shrewton, although it should be acknowledged that Oxenwood, Wexcombe and Tangley are not so far away. Is there anything in any of this - beyond a string of coincidences? Maybe Graham - or someone else - has some thoughts. Regards to all Robin

Morning all I have confirmation that John Lovelock, shoemaker, aged 33 in the 1851 census who was baptised in Wootton Rivers in 1816 (son of Thomas Lovelock and Catherine Haywood on the Lieflock line) and who died at Pewsey in 1881 aged 64 also married Clara Stone. Here's the 1871 entry for 46 North Street, Pewsey: John Lovelock, Head, 54, Cordwainer, born Wootton Rivers Clara Lovelock, Wife, 51, Bonnet Maker, born Pewsey Eliza Stone, Boarder, unmarried, 47, born Pewsey Sarah Lovelock, Visitor, unmarried, 26, Servant, born Hull, Yorkshire Alfred Stone, Visitor, unmarried, 25, Taylor, Melksham, Wiltshire John and Clara were married at Pewsey: 1857 Mar 31 John Lovelock of Wootton Rivers & Clara Stone They don't appear to have had any children. Clara was also buried at Pewsey: 1902 Jan 12 Clara Lovelock, aged 81 Eliza Stone was probably Clara's sister and Alfred possibly a nephew. But who the devil is Sarah Lovelock from Yorkshire? Best wishes for all your continuing research. We don't appear to have any other entries for the 1871 census for Wiltshire. Does anyone? If they would be of value as an addition to our Wiltshire resources, I could be talkied into extracting them from the Ancestry.co.uk site next time I'm down at SAG (Society of Australian Genealogists). Robert ---------------------------------------------- Robert Sterry 9 Baileys Lane, Kurrajong Hills NSW 2758 AUSTRALIA Ph: (61)0245 731805 FAX: (61) 0245731022 Email: [email protected]

Hello all, I've added three new trees/fragments to the Web site, as follows: - Swallowfield/Heckfield (Berks) tree submitted by John Lewis - Tree for Charles Lovelock (aka Charles Shaw) of Bethnall Green submitted by Roger Lovelock - Wroughton/Tidcombe tree submitted by Graham Lovelock The first two are linked to the "Misc Trees <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/fragments/misc-lovelock-trees.html>" page, while the third one is linked to the "Wilts Trees <http://perso.numericable.fr/%7Elovjames/family-history/lovelock/wilts-frags.html>" page - a preliminary version of the latter was already distributed to the mailing list, but it's evolved quite a bit since then. Note that for the Bethnall Green tree the progentor appears to have changed his name, which presents quite a challenge! The submitters would appreciate any comments or further information on these trees/fragments. Regards, James

Graham, Thank you for this, seems I will have to do some more research before I can tie into one of the trees. Best Wishes Sian >From: "Graham Lovelock" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected], [email protected] >Subject: RE: John and James Lovelock >Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:19:49 +0000 > > >Sian > >By the sounds of it you need the Adobe Reader. This is free software (you >only have to pay for the Writer), and all you need to do is go to their >website and follow the instructions: > >http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html > >Meanwhile, I can tell you that John, Harriet and James Frederick do not >appear in the Berkshire Tree as it presently exists. > >I don't have access to our earlier correspondence on your Lovelocks from >London, so can't add any more at present. > >Best wishes > >Graham > > > >From: "sian davies" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: John and James Lovelock >Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:28:02 +0000 > >Dear Listers, > >Can anyone tied my tree into the Berkshire Lovelocks? I am unable to get >into the tree on the website not having the software. > > >James Frederick Lovelock born Sep qtr 1838 in Childrey Wantage parents John >b around 1808 in Westcote Berks and Harriet b Denchworth Berks. James >married Jane Brind in Sparshot on 15 April 1865. > >I am unable to find any bmd for John on the website. Perhaps I have missed >something. > >Thanks > >Sian Davies formally Lovelock > >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > >==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== >Lovelock family history Web pages: >http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Sian By the sounds of it you need the Adobe Reader. This is free software (you only have to pay for the Writer), and all you need to do is go to their website and follow the instructions: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html Meanwhile, I can tell you that John, Harriet and James Frederick do not appear in the Berkshire Tree as it presently exists. I don't have access to our earlier correspondence on your Lovelocks from London, so can't add any more at present. Best wishes Graham From: "sian davies" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: John and James Lovelock Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:28:02 +0000 Dear Listers, Can anyone tied my tree into the Berkshire Lovelocks? I am unable to get into the tree on the website not having the software. James Frederick Lovelock born Sep qtr 1838 in Childrey Wantage parents John b around 1808 in Westcote Berks and Harriet b Denchworth Berks. James married Jane Brind in Sparshot on 15 April 1865. I am unable to find any bmd for John on the website. Perhaps I have missed something. Thanks Sian Davies formally Lovelock _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/

Dear Listers, Can anyone tied my tree into the Berkshire Lovelocks? I am unable to get into the tree on the website not having the software. James Frederick Lovelock born Sep qtr 1838 in Childrey Wantage parents John b around 1808 in Westcote Berks and Harriet b Denchworth Berks. James married Jane Brind in Sparshot on 15 April 1865. I am unable to find any bmd for John on the website. Perhaps I have missed something. Thanks Sian Davies formally Lovelock _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Hello all, Thanks to the persistance of Yann Lovelock and Robert Sterry, the Lovelock Lines Newsletter is now available in electronic form for those who prefer this to the paper form. In fact, to allow for different bandwidths there is a low resolution version (about 420 KB) and a high resolution version (about 1 MB). They are both linked to the "Lovelock Gathering" page: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/gathering/index.htm Regards, James

My copy of the new NBI has just arrived!! ---------------------------------------------- Robert Sterry 9 Baileys Lane, Kurrajong Hills NSW 2758 AUSTRALIA Ph: (61)0245 731805 FAX: (61) 0245731022 Email: [email protected]

[email protected] wrote: Hello list, The exact spelling of the family name LOVELOCK or LOVELUCK means very little to me. As I have the surname BLETHYN. Over all the years in documents and Census`s I have it spelt in the following ways. BLETHYN, BLETHIN, BLETHEN, BLETHING aND BLEDDYN. My wife is a teacher at the local school,and every Christmas I await the arrival of her children`s Christmas cards. For I love to see the above five spellings of my name which the little four year olds have used. So as you can see nothing has changed. Best Regards Allen -- Allen in Aberavon __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

Hello again! The Wiltshire Lovelocks by parish file has been updated. The new material includes additional records from the LDS IGI together with records extracted by Robert for Collingbourne Ducis, Collingbourne Kingston, Fyfield by Marlborough and Shrewton. Some redundant material has been eliminated, and a number of minor corrections were made, in particular concerning the flagging of different lines. Regards, James

Hello all, A few weeks ago I changed the layout of the LovelOck Web pages, in particular to introduce a new navigation mechanism via a menu at the top of each main section with drop-down menus for related pages. I have now done something similar for the LovelUck Web site at: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/loveluck/ Please let me know of you encounter any missing links or other problesm due to this change. Regards, James PS There are currently two pages missing on the top menu items "Records" and "Documents", mainly because I didn't have a readily available summary of these sections.

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:46:48 +0200 James Loveluck <[email protected]> wrote: > A few weeks ago I changed the layout of the LovelOck Web pages, in > particular to introduce a new navigation mechanism via a menu at the > top of each main section with drop-down menus for related pages. I > have now done something similar for the LovelUck Web site at: > > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/loveluck/ Looking at this site started me wondering about the 'change' of name from Lovelock to Loveluck. I have come across many permutations of surnames in the Kingsclere Parish registers and concluded that many of these were due to the Clerk a: having his own ideas as to how any particular name should be spelt b: writing down what he heard the person say, strong local accents can make a name sound quite different and most of the clergy would not be locally born. I have an instance for one family where the surname was recorded as Rabbitts for many generations but when one branch moved to another part of Hampshire the register entries have the surname as Roberts. Even in Kingsclere itself one family has half the children as Rabbits and later ones as Roberts. The fact that Wiltshire registers may have both spellings (Lovelock/Loveluck) suggests to me this was not a deliberate change of name by the family but simply due to the lack of standardised spellings at the time, and when they moved to Wales how did the Parish Clerk/Cleric 'hear' the Wiltshire dialect. Just my two pennyworth :) -- John Lewis, Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello all, I've updated the Glamorgan "Lovelocks by parish" file on the Web site. The changes include additions for a number of parishes (mostly Aberavon and Margam). In addition, I have flagged (GL) records for individuals who belong to the Glamorgan Loveluck Line - this is almost all the records except for a few entries corresponding to the Lyneham Line and the Oystermouth records which are part of the Nevada Lovelock tree. Regards, James

Hi Robin Some very good suggestions there. So here's my tuppence worth. I believe that you are quite correct. The John, who was the shoemaker in the 1851 census: Pewsey Registration District Address: Wootton Rivers Catherine Lovelock, Head, 63, Shoebinder (widow), born Wootton Rivers John Lovelock, Son, 33, Boot and Shoe Maker, born Wootton Rivers Martha Lane, Gd-Daur, 17 is very likely the same John who was buried in 1881 at Pewsey: 1881 Feb 26 John Lovelock, aged 64 This burial has not yet been placed in any main Lovelock tree. I also think it likely that Catherine Lovelock in the 1851 census is indeed Catherine Haywood who married Thomas in 1811. Thomas had died in 1849 and, as a widow, poor old Catherine would have certainly had to try and bring in some income. What is perhaps less certain is whether this same John married Clara Stone. Marrying so late at age 40 is unusual but perhaps he was left to look after his aging and possibly invalid parents. John and Clara don't appear to have had any children and certainly Clara appears to have been buried at the right place at about the right time. That all fits rather nicely. We really need to check the 1861 or 1871 census for Pewsey to be sure. Is the 1871 census available through Ancestry.co? Like at SOG, I can access (for free) Ancestry.com at the Society of Australian Genealogists (SAG). If they've indexed Pewsey, I'll check next week when I'm down there. Best wishes Robert PS Just found Graham's post back to you along same lines. > -----Original Message----- > From: ROBIN LOVELOCK [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2004 4:39 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Yet another (with apologies to those on the > Mailing List) John Lovelock > > > Hello everyone - especially Graham (for reasons which will emerge). > > Leafing through some papers I noticed that some time ago > (date uncertain!) I'd highlighted an item under Pewsey > Marriages in 'Lovelocks in Wiltshire by Parish'; namely: 1857 > Mar 31 John Lovelock of Wootton Rivers & Clara Stone. I'd > also highlighted two Pewsey deaths, which I took to be those > of the aforementioned John and Clara: he 1881 Feb 26 aged 64 > and she 1902 Jan 12 aged 81. > > Rereading a note I'd made alongside the marriage entry I > recalled one of Graham's postings to the list, and happily > I've managed to relocate it: > > From: "Graham Lovelock" <[email protected]> > Subject: Yet another (with apologies to those on the Mailing > List) John Lovelock > Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 22:48:54 +0100 > Good evening from Yate > > Does anyone know anything of the John Lovelock, a Shoemaker, > who died aged 64 on 22 February 1881 in Pewsey? > > Or of any relationship between him and an Emma Stagg? > > Is he the one baptised at Hungerford > on 14 April 1816, the son of James and Lucy? And if so, does > anyone have any idea who James and Lucy are? > > Regards > > Graham > > As far as I can tell nobody has responded to Graham's request. > > The connection in my mind was 'Shoemaker'. My main interest > was/is in the Wootton Rivers reference. > > The 1851 Census for Wootton Rivers includes the following household: > > Catherine Lovelock, 63, Head, Shoebinder (Widow), Birthplace > WR John, 33, Son, Boot and Shoe Maker, Birthplace WR Martha > Lane, 17, Gd-Daur > > I was/am fairly certain that this Catherine's maiden name was > Haywood, c. 20 Oct 1788 at WR, in which case her late husband > was Thomas Lovelock, who she married at WR on 22 Oct 1811 > (see p. 3 of the latest version (pdf) of the Lieflock line). > Thomas was buried at WR on 20 Dec 1849 - although there has > been some discussion [see Graham's original comment (ooo) on > the Lieflock line and subsequent exchanges] of whether that > burial was in fact of another John L. c. abt April/May 1790 > at Milton Lilbourne, son of William L. and Mary Allen, and > indeed the stated age at death (59) seems a better fit with > the latter. (Thomas [c. 25 Aug 1793] was a son of John > Lovelock [b. abt 1753 at Easton Royal] and Elizabeth Hancock, > and a younger brother of John Lovelock c. 31 Aug 1788, whose > recent identification as having married Elizabeth Hillier at > Preshute 10 Aug 1813 has linked a WR Lovelock line (from > which I am descended) with the Lieflock tree.) Among the > children of Catherine and Th! > omas was John c. 29 Dec 1816 at WR. (I think I am right in > thinking that neither John nor his elder sister Ann c. 25 Sep > 1814 appeared in versions of the Lieflock line prior to this > most recent one - although three other children of Thomas and > Catherine did; perhaps this was perhaps why, having looked to > the WR census data, I did not make the connection until now > with Graham's email. > > So my suggestion is that the John Lovelock who died on 22 Feb > 1881 (or was buried on 26th?) aged 64 is the same man married > in Pewsey in 1857 (i.e. then aged 40 - Clara would have been > about 36 then) and also the same John L living with his > mother in Wootton Rivers in 1851 aged 33; could the apparent > slight age discrepancies with both marriage and census ages > be partially explained by a 'late' baptism? (Martha Lane > could presumably be the daughter of one of Catherine's > (married?) daughter's; we have Ann shown as marrying James > Bunce, but we know of three other daughters.) > > Further evidence, supportive or otherwise? Free BMD has the > deaths of both John and Clara Lovelock as quoted above from > PRs via 'Lovelocks in Wiltshire by Parish'; but I can find > nothing on the marriage. The IGI seems to have neither the > marriage nor either death. (I haven't got much experience of > using either, so I may have screwed up!) > > Free BMD does have a record of a death which could well be > that of Catherine (nee Haywood): Catherine Lovelock, aged 78, > Marlborough District, vol. 5a p. 57, March quarter 1867. The > current Lieflock line file does not have a death or burial > for Catherine, wife of Thomas. If the John who married aged > about 40 in 1857 was her son, she might very well have moved, > perhaps to live with another of her children and family, > perhaps nearer to or in Marlborough. No member of the > household referred to above from the 1851 Census, Wootton > Rivers, appears there 10 years later. > > Back to you Graham - and others of course. > > Best wishes from a sunny, but increasingly autumnal-feeling, > Southampton > > Robin > > > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Having re-discovered the Somerset Lovelock/lucks that John listed below, I went back to his message and I've added some comments in-line below: John Dixon wrote: >Sorry did not make it to the grand party! Had to give the Historic Caravan Club rally a miss too - just had to defend my driving test trophy at the R-R enthusiasts' rally - shucks only came second! > >I had a quick search round the net re LovelUck (I'm not too bothered about the 'o' until a link is proved!). I am still amazed that with such an unusual name and some 30 years of effort by umpteen people we are no further than John & Ann!! > >There is a transcript of part of a fiche of the PR for Bridgewater Somerset. Google gave this with loveluck prudence - trying to find another ref to Prudence d 1850 > >1730 27-9 Lovelace Charles of Charles & Katherine >1732 19-4 Lovelock Elizabeth of C & Kathrin >1738 30-7 Elizabeth of C & Catherine >1736 20-2 Frances of C&C >1733 18-8 John of C & K >1740 11-3 Joseph of C&C >1728 5-7 Loveluck Betty of C &K >1734 31-1 James of C & Kathurin > >another file for 1720-30 give Betty as 'o' and >1726 3-2 Lovelock Sarah of C&Katherine > >I then hit (looking for Loveluck Melton!!!): >Brian Charles Reeves of Horace Bickley Reeves & Yvonne Lucille Loveluck b 9 Oct 1948 at Tom Green Texas > I think this must be the dau. of Howell Ronald Llewelyn Loveluck (abt 1883 - ?) and Margot Lewis. From Janet Hearle's notes Yvonne mar. a Reeves who was a Major in the USAF. > >I then looked for Lucille Loveluck and got: >Ian Loveluck Arblaster b 1-8-1925 from the Commonwealth Public Services List 1956 (Oz) see hotkey.net.au/njwilliams4/x56b.htm > The Arblaster family are part of the "Victoria Lovelucks" branch. Thomas Loveluck (bap 1833 Coychurch) mar. Mary Davies 20 Feb 1856 Merthyr and emigrated to Australia in 1856. He died at Eaglehawk, Victoria. A dau. Elizabeth (b. 6 Jan 1866 at Eaglehawk) mar. Charles Alexander Arblaster in 1883 at Eaglehawk. Liz Rushen, who worked with Janet Hearle, is also on this branch. >There is also a Frank Altman with a Loveluck connection at Ancestory.com > Husband of Brabara Jean Loveluck, dau of Edward Howell L (1895-1967, butcher at Port Talbot, bur at Pyle, St James?) and Ethel May Heycock. > >Sydney Loveluck Thomas of Highdene, 11 Stanwell Rd Penarth Glam d 3-3-1907 W pr LLandaff 13-6-07 £2438 gross to Richard Beaumont-Thomas of Lydney Glos, Francis Treherne Thomas of Cwmfelin nr Swansea & Hubert Spence Thomas of C - from Turner-Thomas family > >Francis Loveluck Brand b 3-12-1909 of Elizabeth Mabel Thomas (b 25-4-79 Lydbrook & d 7-5-1916) & James Gordon Brand (b 11-6-1872 Edinburgh) >EMT had bro Sydney Loveluck Thomas (& many earlier siblings) b 31-12-77 d 3-3-07 see above. > >Richard Thomas b 5-12-1837 at Bridgwater Som d 28-9-1916 at Bath bur Lydbrook ch, m Ann Loveluck, dau John & Mary 18-2-1859 at St Mary's Cardiff. She was b 6-2-1837 at Hafod Hallog (sic) Carmathens and d 14-4-1914 at penarth, bur Lydbrook, photo of her. > Are these from the Turner-Thomas Web pages? http://home.btconnect.com/turthomgenealogy/turner-thomas.htm The author, Arthur Turner-Thomas, contacted me recently and we excnaged a few e-mails but I haven't heard from him recently. This is of course the family of Ruchard Thomas (1837-1916) and An Loveluck (1837-1914, dau of John L and Mary Loyd). Richard Thomas owned steelworks in Glamorgan and Gloucestershire. > >"Jubilee Swansea vol 1" p30 ref to Mr & Mrs Loveluck > >Rosalind Loveluck is an alto opera singer in 2002. > >Brenda Gregory in Oz wants to know Middx surnames Loveluck at Lothbury <1838 [email protected] > Brenda is descended from the Tasmanian Lovelucks, apparently quite independent of the Glamorgan tribe, which can be traced back to Henry Loveluck b. 1783 Maryleborne, London. Brenda used to be subscribed to the mailing list (Hi Brenda if you're still there!) > >Somerset Pigot 1830 - Thomas Loveluck p 721 (only index on net) > >Jannet Blodwen Loveluck b 19-6-1890, d 8-12-1963 Royal Gwent H Newport Mon m 10-3-1924 at Bridgend Milsom Charles Wherrett Prob Reg of 9 Llwynden Rd Newport. He was a draper & d 1986. They had John W W see www.ritter.demon.co.uk/genealogy/wga57.html > You need a capital G in Genealogy for the URL. I have these details in my database from the same Web site. Jannet (I have her as Jennet) was dau of William Thomas L (1845-1894) and Mary Ann Mathews. <<snipped>> James

Ooops! I just realised that these were already included in John Dixon's message of 31 July! Sorry John, your message was so dense that I forgot this. James James Loveluck wrote: > I just found the following transcribed baptism records for Bridgwater, > Somerset at the following URL: > http://freespace.virgin.net/paul.mansfield1/brid730.txt > > 1732 19Apr Lovelock Elizabeth - Charles and Kathrin > 1738 30Jul Lovelock Elizabeth - Charles and Catherine > 1736 20Feb Lovelock Frances - Charles and Catherine > 1733 19Aug Lovelock John - Charles and Katherine > 1740 11Mar Lovelock Joseph - Charles and Catherine > 1728 05Jul Loveluck Betty - Charles and Katharine > 1734 31Jan Loveluck James - Charles and Kathurin > > > Note that there is an associated copyright notice as follows: > > COPYRIGHT NOTICE > ================ > Reproduction of the following transcribed records is permitted by the > Somerset Archive and Record Service with the proviso that any subsequent > copying is free of profit and MUST retain this copyright notice. Anyone > wishing to include a copy as part of a profit-making publication or > distribution must apply for permission to the Somerset Archive and Record > Service at Obridge Road, Taunton, Somerset, TA2 7PU United Kingdom. > (Internet: [email protected] or > [email protected]). > > > Its interesting that there is a mutation of the surname from Lovelock > to Loveluck! > > James > > > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > >

I just found the following transcribed baptism records for Bridgwater, Somerset at the following URL: http://freespace.virgin.net/paul.mansfield1/brid730.txt 1732 19Apr Lovelock Elizabeth - Charles and Kathrin 1738 30Jul Lovelock Elizabeth - Charles and Catherine 1736 20Feb Lovelock Frances - Charles and Catherine 1733 19Aug Lovelock John - Charles and Katherine 1740 11Mar Lovelock Joseph - Charles and Catherine 1728 05Jul Loveluck Betty - Charles and Katharine 1734 31Jan Loveluck James - Charles and Kathurin Note that there is an associated copyright notice as follows: COPYRIGHT NOTICE ================ Reproduction of the following transcribed records is permitted by the Somerset Archive and Record Service with the proviso that any subsequent copying is free of profit and MUST retain this copyright notice. Anyone wishing to include a copy as part of a profit-making publication or distribution must apply for permission to the Somerset Archive and Record Service at Obridge Road, Taunton, Somerset, TA2 7PU United Kingdom. (Internet: [email protected] or [email protected]). Its interesting that there is a mutation of the surname from Lovelock to Loveluck! James

Hello List, I am interested in hearing from anyone with any info regarding the Lovelock - Lovelock name in the Parish of Llangynwyd, which borders with that of Margam in Glamorganshire. Best Regards Allen. __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp