And a very Happy New Year to you Dianne. I'd quite forgotten you were also descended from Robert Lovelock the convict! My apologies. I'd better include you in my discussions with Mary Pipe! Perhaps we should now call the line Lambeth/Australia/Tasmania/New Zealand line? ;-) I will attach under separate email what I have put together with Mary recently as an elaboration on what is currently called the Lambeth-Australia tree on the Lovelock websiite. Mary is actually going to send the gedcom version to James once she has finished adding all her sources. Here's what I have on Robert the convict (mostly from Mary Pipe) below. And yes - I'd very much like to have that information on those Tasmanian convicts. Perhaps James Loveluck might consider having a special section on the Lovelock website for Lovelock felons!? Best wishes Robert ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- Robert Lovelock bn: abt 1818 bp 18 Oct 1818 Bermondsey Saint Mary Magdalene, Surrey, England [Source IGI] Transported 1833 to NSW, Australia aged 18 on "Andromeda". Robert Lovelock was educated in that he could read and write. His religion was protestant. He was five foot three quarters of an inch tall, with a dark complexion, dark brown hair and chestnut eyes(?). His distinguishing features were - 'Lost a front tooth left side upper jaw. Man upper, MB inside lower left arm, three small moles upper, bottle and glass and two tobacco pipes. RLAT, heart and two darts and P lower left arm. Five dots back of left hand near thumb. He was a basketmaker by trade in London. He had several brushes with the law, having received a flogging and one month's gaol. Then when he was 18 he received life for 'stealing print' at the Surry Assizes on 9th August, 1832. He was transported to Australia arriving in Sydney 11 March 1833 on the 'Andromeda 2" Robert was able to sign his name in the church records for his marriage. Consent for the marriage was given by K Robertson of Maharrata and the witnesses were K Robertson and J Nicholson of Chain Of Ponds Received Ticket of Leave 11 Mar 1844 on recommendation of Queanbyan Bench (Passport No 44/0100, Ticket of Leave 43/1737. Source: State Records NSW Index to Ticket of Leave Passports. Shelf Ref: 4/4178 Reel No: 949) Worked on property in Monaro Highlands. d: 1875 at Cooma, NSW, Australia (Ref: 5751/1875) + Jane Currie m: 26 Sep 1847 Church of England, Maharatta (registered Manaroo), NSW, Australia (Ref:V1847381; 32C/1847; additional info. Supplied by Mary Pipe) d: 1906 Adaminaby (Ref: 321/1906) Jane died in 1906 at Adaminaby, NSW. (Source: Mary Pipe) > -----Original Message----- > From: Dianne Snowden [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2005 1:27 PM > To: 'Robert Sterry'; [email protected] > Subject: RE: Australian Lovelock Convicts > > > There are also two Lovelock convicts to Van Diemen's Land > (now Tasmania), Henry and William. I have some information > about them, as well as some information about Robert Lovelock. > > With best wishes > Dianne Snowden > G-g-g-granddaughter of Robert Lovelock per Andromeda II 1833 > Richmond Tasmania

There are also two Lovelock convicts to Van Diemen's Land (now Tasmania), Henry and William. I have some information about them, as well as some information about Robert Lovelock. With best wishes Dianne Snowden G-g-g-granddaughter of Robert Lovelock per Andromeda II 1833 Richmond Tasmania -----Original Message----- From: Robert Sterry [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2005 11:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Australian Lovelock Convicts Greetings all I have recently been collaborating with one of the decendants of one of the two known Lovelock convicts. Mary Pipe, who lives in NZ, descends from Robert Lovelock who was transported to Australia in 1833 on the 'Andromeda II', aged 18. Robert was baptised in 1818 in Bermondsey, Surrey. Sentenced for life. Mary is Secretary of the local branch of the New Zealand Society of Genealogists so her research is particularly thorough and most interesting. The other Lovelock convict was James Lovelock who was transported in 1835 on the 'England' aged 41 sentenced in Wiltshire for 7 years. Does anyone have any interest in or knowledge about either of these gentlemen? Robert ---------------------------------------------- Robert Sterry 9 Baileys Lane, Kurrajong Hills NSW 2758 AUSTRALIA Ph: (61)0245 731805 FAX: (61) 0245731022 Email: [email protected] ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== Lovelock family history Web pages: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Greetings all I have recently been collaborating with one of the decendants of one of the two known Lovelock convicts. Mary Pipe, who lives in NZ, descends from Robert Lovelock who was transported to Australia in 1833 on the 'Andromeda II', aged 18. Robert was baptised in 1818 in Bermondsey, Surrey. Sentenced for life. Mary is Secretary of the local branch of the New Zealand Society of Genealogists so her research is particularly thorough and most interesting. The other Lovelock convict was James Lovelock who was transported in 1835 on the 'England' aged 41 sentenced in Wiltshire for 7 years. Does anyone have any interest in or knowledge about either of these gentlemen? Robert ---------------------------------------------- Robert Sterry 9 Baileys Lane, Kurrajong Hills NSW 2758 AUSTRALIA Ph: (61)0245 731805 FAX: (61) 0245731022 Email: [email protected]

Congratulations to all concerned on 'Lovelock Lines Number 2'. I've skimmed the on-line version and await the postman for my "subscribers' copy" - a 'plug' for your efforts John! Having not realised there were so many Lovelocks around (especially beyond Wootton Rivers!) until 'Lovelocks Alive' last June, I've continued to believe there was/is "only one Robin Lovelock"; perhaps there is only one Christopher Robin L - myself. Be that as it may, fear turned to relief when I spotted 'my' name in James's message and then on the cover of the Newsletter itself. I did agree to write something for a later edition, but ....... was I dreaming?! So, just to say, "Hi" - if he's 'on' this list - to the other, or another, Robin Lovelock, and living not so very far away from me. And - is this modesty or immodesty? - for those who 'know' me from this mailing list but not 'by sight', the author of 'The Clapham Junction Line', and whose picture appears therein with his wife, is not 'yours truly'. Best wishes to all Robin - of Southampton! ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Loveluck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: Lovelock Lines Edition 2 is on line! > Hello all, > > Lovelock Lines Edition 2 is now available on the Web site. It's full of > interesting Lovelock stories and surprising aspects of Lovelock family > history! > > Many thanks to all the contributors (Max Lovelock, Yann Lovelock, Robin > Lovelock and John Lovelock), to Yann Lovelock who did the editing, and to > Robert Sterry for technical assistance. Thanks also to John Lovelock who > is taking care of postal subscriptions. > > The file size is about 720 KB so it may take some time to download over > dial-up. > > There's a link to Lovelock Lines #2 on the What's New page, together with > artwork courtesy of Yann: > > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/new.html > > James > > > [Message re-sent with my other email address so that the message gets into > the archives] > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hello All This is not a Lovelock family history issue as such, but it may well be relevant to other Lovelock researchers, especially those who use the Lovelock website so magnificently maintained for us by James. I've hit a problem accessing some of the PDF files on the Lovelock website since recently installing the latest version of Adobe Reader (version 7.0) - I was previously using version 5.1. The files I'm immediately concerned with - there may of course be others - are the two most recent updates of the Lieflock line (those in PDF form, as I said; html versions are fine). The same problem arises whether trying to open the file on the site (only the latest - Aug 2004? - version of course) or a copy stored on my PC (both the August and June 2004 updates). The Reader opens, displays the correct number of pages, but all 'pages' remain blank - i.e. no content appears. The downloaded versions open perfectly in version 5.1 of the Reader, which thankfully I didn't uninstall! Also, an earlier update of the Lieflock tree which I have (2003?) opens in the latest Adobe Reader, as do other old and new PDF files from the website - including the annotated version of the Wroughton/Tidcombe tree and the on-line version of 'Lovelock Lines' No. 2, both posted on the website only in the last few days. I checked the properties of the various downloaded files I've referred to above and what might provide a key is that they were created using quite a variety of pieces of software. The problematic ones share a common origin in this sense, having been created using 'VideoSoft PDF Generator 1.0'. The recent posts pasted in below come from an Adobe users forum and seem to endorse this; moreover, one of them also points to Legacy, which I know is the genealogy programme James uses. It seems to me this could also explain why some of the PDF files on-site are OK and others not - my assumption being that the Lieflock tree will have been generated from Legacy but other PDF files on site will not. I'm out of my depth here, but presumably various software applications build in and make use of various tools to do things like create PDF files. There don't seem to be any 'answers' forthcoming from the Adobe site as yet - I'm checking back regularly and will post here anything which emerges. The 'contact Videosoft' proposal (see below) is all very well, but in my/our(?) case just now it may be that Legacy is the 'target'. I guess I'm 'unavoidably' bouncing this to James ("Sorry!") for possible 'solutions' or 'workarounds', short-term or otherwise - over-and-above, in my case, using version 5.1 of the Reader to read downloaded versions. But if anybody else has hit these problems and/or has relevant expertise with a view to overcoming them, your comments would be much appreciated. Is there perhaps some parallel - and thus a clue - in your updating your copy of Legacy to my updating the Adobe Reader James, so that e.g. Lieflock line update PDFs earlier than June 2004 might have been created in a different way from current ones? Best wishes - and a belated Happy New Year - to everyone From a sunny Southampton Robin The following are from Adobe User-to-User Forums (edited and also changed from HTML format - harder to read without the formatting, but avoids falling foul of RootsWeb blocks):- Blank PDFs in Reader 7 (OK in 5/6) Rodney Mitchell - 06:47am Jan 4, 2005 Pacific I have a number of PDF files that appear blank in reader 7.0.0 (on Windows XP Sp2) but used to display fine in reader 6 on the same machine. In 7 the correct number of pages are visible, but they are all blank. No error messages or clues to the problem are given. Most PDF appear as normal. The problem PDFs all have the creator reported as: VideoSoft PDF Generator 1.0 PDF Version: 1.2 (Acrobat 3.x) The only fonts used are Arial and Arial Bold Are there settings in reader 7 that need to be changed or can reader 7 just not show these files? _____ Larry D. Wilson - 12:05pm Jan 6, 05 PST (#1 of 7) I get the exact same problem (pdf pages are blank using Reader 7.0). I think I discovered it a day later. My pdf files were generated by the Legacy DeLuxe genealogy program. I believe they also use the Videosoft pdf generator. Other pdf's read fine and these files used to read fine using Adobe Reader 6.02 so Adobe must have programmed something in to its new software to cause this problem. _______ Terence Muir - 4:58am Jan 12, 05 PST (#6 of 7) I also have the same problem as Rodney and Larry above. Some PDF files which I was able to view OK with Adobe Reader 6(6.01/6.0.2)now show only blank pages since I installed Adobe Reader 7.0. It seems to be only those PDF files which have been created with VideoSoft PDF Generator. No security has been applied to them. Is there some setting under Preferences which should be change? Or some other solution? ______________ Aandi Inston - 5:47am Jan 12, 05 PST (#7 of 7) Blank PDFs in Reader 7 (OK in 5/6) You should probably contact VideoSoft. Aandi Inston

Hello all, Lovelock Lines Edition 2 is now available on the Web site. It's full of interesting Lovelock stories and surprising aspects of Lovelock family history! Many thanks to all the contributors (Max Lovelock, Yann Lovelock, Robin Lovelock and John Lovelock), to Yann Lovelock who did the editing, and to Robert Sterry for technical assistance. Thanks also to John Lovelock who is taking care of postal subscriptions. The file size is about 720 KB so it may take some time to download over dial-up. There's a link to Lovelock Lines #2 on the What's New page, together with artwork courtesy of Yann: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/new.html James [Message re-sent with my other email address so that the message gets into the archives]

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Hello all, I've made a couple of changes to the Web site, as follows: - Updated the 1851 census data for Wilts to include additional data for Tidcombe and Wroughton, provided by John Dixon - Updated the Wroughton/Tidcombe tree with some new material provided by Graham Lovelock. Note that this tree now contains 126 individuals, of which 86 are Lovelocks! Links to the updated files are on the "What's New" page: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/new.html Thanks to John and Graham for these contributions! James

Hello everyone, My connection to Lovelock is via the Lyneham Line and Tom Lovelock b 14 Feb 1858 and Emily Humphries. They are my great-great-grandparents via their daughter Kate Lovelock. I am in possession of a very good and large photograph of Tom and Emily surrounded by their 11 children in the garden at the back of their house in Lyneham circa 1903 (the house is now unfortunately a fish and chip shop with a ghastly extension built out the back just where they were sitting). Does anyone descend from these children and want a copy of this? Peter FELTHAM 13 rue Oberlin 67800 BISCHHEIM France Tel : 00 33 3 88 62 55 00

Hello all, I've added to the Web site a transcript of the Will of Francis Lovelock of Avington, Berks, 22 May 1834: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/lovelwill.htm#Francis_Lovelock_1834 Many thanks to Leslie Lovelock who transcribed the Will, and to John Lovelock who provided an electronic version. This transcript has been added to the page of "Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PCC) Wills" at: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/lovelwill.htm James

Hello all, I've added to the Web site a list of some Lovelock Wills 1856 - 1962, provided by Graham Lovelock. You'll find it at: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/documents/lovelock-wills-1856-1962.html and it's linked to the Sources -> General page. Many thanks to Graham for this contribution. James

Hi all, Thanks Mike, great to discover, so fast, another living descendent of their marriage. The data on the Lovelock web site has a huge gap of tens of years in the baptisms for Lambourn, a quick check shows the Berkshire Records Office has an unbroken time series. The subject Hannah marrying Henry Pottinger in 1764 is in the gap period for baptisms but it looks like Lovelocks were there in Lambourn, Berks from mid-16th century. I am back at work Tuesday 4 Jan 2005, so FH has to take a back seat again. However when I get a chance I will visit the BRO and record the missing years for the web site, unless somebody on the list already has a tree or data. I feel this might be another branch in the making i.e Berkshire 2 to compliment, Robert's and Gwen's, Berkshire 1. Here is the indirect linkage (hopefully it will be readable on the list) between the two Lovelock lines: Henry Pottinger (14656) +Hannah Lovelock (14657), m. 17 Feb 1764 &#9500;&#9472;&#9472; Hannah Pottinger (14658), b. circa 1776 at Lambourn, Berks, UK &#9492;&#9472;&#9472; Richard Pottinger (14654), bap. 17 Oct 1784 at Lambourne, Berks, UK +Mary Baker (14655), m. 11 Mar 1811 at Lambourne, Berks, UK &#9500;&#9472;&#9472; Hannah Pottinger (14659), b. circa 1812 at Lambourn, Berks, UK &#9492;&#9472;&#9472; Charles Pottinger (14602), b. circa 1816 at Lambourne, Berks, UK, d. Mar 1891 +Elizabeth (--?--) (14653), b. circa 1818 at Longcott, Berks, UK, d. after 1881 &#9492;&#9472;&#9472; Tryphena Pottinger (14192), b. circa 1843 at Challow, Berks, UK +Albert Gregory (14191), b. circa 1840 at East llsley, Berks, UK, m. 12 Oct 1862 at East Ilsley, Berks, UK &#9500;&#9472;&#9472; Frederick Gregory (14193), b. circa 1867 at East Ilsley, Berks, UK &#9500;&#9472;&#9472; Elizabeth Gregory (14194), b. circa 1869 at East Ilsley, Berks, UK &#9500;&#9472;&#9472; Emily Louisa Gregory (14195), b. circa 1872 at East Ilsley, Berks, UK &#9474; +William Henry Chackreth (14621), b. circa 1870, m. 25 Dec 1893 at East Ilsley, Berks, UK &#9500;&#9472;&#9472; Henry Alexander Gregory (14196), b. circa Mar 1879 at East Ilsley, Berks, UK &#9474; +Julia Annis Lovelock (14600), b. 02 May 1879 at Watlington, Oxen, UK, m. 24 Apr 1906 at East Ilsley, Berks, UK &#9474; &#9500;&#9472;&#9472; Eva May Gregory (14185), b. Sep 1906 at Compton, Newbury &#9474; &#9474; +Albert William Fleet (14183), b. Sep 1904 at Aspley Guise, Woburn, Bedfordhire &#9474; &#9474; &#9492;&#9472;&#9472; Pamula Julia Fleet (4468), b. 11 Mar 1935 at Oxford, Oxen, UK, d. before 1998 It is all I have on Pottinger at the moment so can we swap what we have on Pottinger off-list. I now know Tryphena was born at West Challow. In the 1881 census she just gave Challow. Numbers in brackets are software package internal reference numbers. However they do give a guide as to the order in which persons were found! Anybody else with any clues or information on Hannah Lovelock at the head of the tree, or want more information on Julie Annis Lovelock grand-daughter of Charles Gibbs Lovelock? Regards, Nigel Gerdes Bradford on Avon (West Wilts)

Hello Listers Please see the reply that I sent direct to Nigel earlier this evening. Can anyone else shed further light on Hannah Lovelock's (Ann Lovelake's) ancestry? Regards Mike Bousher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bousher" <[email protected]> To: "Nigel Gerdes " <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: Re: Lovelocks in Lambourn(e), Berkshire, UK > Hello Nigel > > Happy New Year. > > Like your great nephew, I have Hannah Lovelock and Henry Pottinger among > my > ancestors. I agree with you that Hannah's line does not, hitherto, seem to > have been clearly documented on the Lovelock website. Her marriage to > Henry > Pottinger in 1764 is mentioned under St Michael and All Angels, Lambourn, > but her birth seems to be somewhat less well documented. > > I discovered that I had Lovelock ancestry back in 2002, and since then my > wife and I have been trying to find more information about Hannah and her > ancestors. We are pretty sure that the Hannah Lovelock who married Henry > Pottinger was in fact the Ann Lovelake (born 26 August 1744) who is > mentioned in the Lovelock website under Sparsholt. (Her parents are > recorded > as being Charles Lovelake (also referred to as Loveluck) and Sarah). This > theory is backed up by the fact that we found details at the Berkshire > Record Office of a death entry for a Hannah Pottinger in Lambourn on 26th > November 1831aged 87. Like Ann Lovelake, she would have been born in 1744, > so it is quite likely that they were one and the same person. > Unfortunately > we have not so far been able to find any other evidence that would > conclusively prove this theory. > > I would love to progress my Lovelock research further, but until I can > find > additional evidence proving (or disproving) our theory, I am stuck at this > point. I have been a subscriber to the Lovelock discussion list for some > time, but as yet have not found anything that helps to clarify the > situation. Can anyone else shed any light on Hannah's ancestry? > > Regards > > Mike Bousher > > Whitley Bay, Tyne & Wear > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nigel Gerdes " <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:18 AM > Subject: Lovelocks in Lambourn(e), Berkshire, UK > > >> Hi all, >> >> This is my first post. Working on the forebearers for my great >> nephew, born in 2003, I have found he has links back into, not one >> but, two LOVELOCK lines. The first ('Berkshire Line') runs back via >> the grand-daughter of Charles Gibbs Lovelock to John Lovelock and >> Elizabeth Woolfe. That is well documented on the web site site apart >> from the most recent generation (Julia Annis Lovelock b 1880) that >> links in. The second is not. I am interested in tracing Hannah >> Locklock who married Henry Pottinger at Lambourne in 1764. Can >> anybody help? >> >> A happy new year to all, >> >> Regards >> >> Nigel Gerdes >> >> Bradford on Avon Wiltshire >> >> Researching SMITH, ALLLEN, KENT, GARRETT, GUNDRY and others in North >> H ampshire and Berkshire and now LOVELOCK! >> >> >> >> >> ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== >> Lovelock family history Web pages: >> http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >

Hi all, This is my first post. Working on the forebearers for my great nephew, born in 2003, I have found he has links back into, not one but, two LOVELOCK lines. The first ('Berkshire Line') runs back via the grand-daughter of Charles Gibbs Lovelock to John Lovelock and Elizabeth Woolfe. That is well documented on the web site site apart from the most recent generation (Julia Annis Lovelock b 1880) that links in. The second is not. I am interested in tracing Hannah Locklock who married Henry Pottinger at Lambourne in 1764. Can anybody help? A happy new year to all, Regards Nigel Gerdes Bradford on Avon Wiltshire Researching SMITH, ALLLEN, KENT, GARRETT, GUNDRY and others in North H ampshire and Berkshire and now LOVELOCK!

Hello Roger, Was interested to see your message for the following reason. My g.grandmother was Maria Habberfield (nee Lovelock) . Maria's parents were Thomas Habberfield and Harriot Habberfield (nee Lovelock). Harriot's parents were John Lovelock b1750 and Rachel (maiden name unknown) but I believe she was b. about 1751. Both died in 1823 and are buried in South Tidworth. You mention Ropley in your list and I believe that my TAYLOR's John & Thomas farmed at Ropley Manor during the 1600's. Thomas Taylor also farmed at Bradley Manor which is well documented in Hampshire history. He is my brickwall as I have been unable, so far, to establish a connection from him to Clement Taylor in Whitchurch bapt. 1670 from which I have traced a direct line. Would be interested in any connection to your LOVELOCK's. Best wishes, Keith Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Hobbs" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: LOVELOCK Family History > My connection with the Lovelock family is through my wife's paternal > grandmother, Elsie Annie Lovelock, born 24th June 1896 at Portsmouth. > I have provided my tentative line of research below which links Elsie back > to Noah Lovelock at Ropley in the 18th Century. > In addition I have assembled links for most of the Lovelocks in the > Portsmouth area. > > Regards > > Roger Hobbs > > > 1 Noah Lovelock b: Abt. 1702 Ropley d: 1785 Ropley b: 22 Jan 1785 Ropley > +Mary Unknown > 2 Susannah Lovelock b: Abt. 1764 Ropley c: 17 Sep 1764 Ropley > +Susannah Findon b: Bradley m: 29 Oct 1730 Bradley > 2 Thomas Lovelock b: Abt. 1731 Ropley c: 21 Sep 1731 Ropley > 2 James Lovelock b: Abt. 1732 Ropley c: 01 Oct 1732 Ropley > 2 Mary Lovelock b: Abt. 1734 Ropley c: 08 Dec 1734 Ropley > 2 John Lovelock b: Abt. 1737 Ropley c: 17 Jul 1737 Ropley d: 1783 New > Alresford b: 11 Jul 1783 New Alresford > +Sarah Dore m: 29 Apr 1770 St Lawrence, Hungerford > 3 James Lovelock b: 1771 Hungerford d: 1805 Alverstoke b: 06 Oct 1805 > Alverstoke > +Susannah Hick m: 13 Mar 1800 St Mary's Portsea > 4 James George Lovelock b: Abt. 1802 Portsmouth c: 20 Jun 1802 > Alverstoke > 4 William Lovelock b: 1804 Alverstoke c: 05 Aug 1804 Alverstoke > +Jane Dore b: Abt. 1805 m: 02 Nov 1824 St Mary Magdalen, Widley > 5 Jane Lovelock b: Abt. 1825 Wymering c: 30 Sep 1825 Wymering d: 09 > Oct 1825 Wymering > 5 Caroline Lovelock b: 1826 c: 26 Nov 1826 Wymering > 5 William Lovelock b: 1829 Wymering c: 05 Apr 1829 Wymering d: 1898 > +Jane Sarah Muston b: 1823 Portsea m: 31 Mar 1851 St Marys Portsea > (Portsea VII 192) > 6 Jane Sarah Lovelock b: Abt. 1853 c: 14 Dec 1857 > 6 William Albert Lovelock b: Abt. 1853 Portsmouth c: 14 Dec 1853 > 6 Walter Charles Lovelock b: Abt. 1856 Portsea c: 06 Feb 1856 > 6 George Dore Lovelock b: 1858 Portsea 2b 357 c: 14 Jan 1859 > 6 Alfred Thomas Lovelock b: Abt. 1861 c: 31 May 1861 > 6 Amelia Sophia Lovelock b: 1862 Portsea 2b 355 c: 27 Feb 1863 > 6 Herbert John Lovelock b: 29 Oct 1864 27 Lake Road, Portsea c: 31 > Mar 1865 St Thomas, Portsmouth > +Anne (Annie) Gardner b: 07 Mar 1867 RM Barracks, East Stonehouse m: 03 > Apr 1886 St Mark's, Portsea > 7 Ethel Lilian Lovelock b: 07 May 1889 Portsmouth > 7 Mabel (May) F Lovelock b: 12 Jan 1891 Portsmouth > 7 Nellie (Nell) C Lovelock b: 04 Sep 1895 Portsmouth > 7 Elsie Annie Lovelock b: 24 Jun 1896 Portsmouth d: 16 Jun 1989 > Portsmouth b: Chichester Crematorium > 7 Herbert (Bert) H Lovelock b: 28 Dec 1899 Portsmouth d: 13 Apr 1954 > 7 Percy Leslie Lovelock b: Apr 1901 Portsmouth d: 13 Dec 1902 > Portsmouth b: 17 Dec 1902 Portsea Cemetery > 2 Noah Lovelock b: Abt. 1739 Ropley c: 13 Jan 1739 Ropley > 2 William Lovelock b: Abt. 1742 Ropley c: 12 Dec 1742 Ropley > 2 Susannah Lovelock b: Abt. 1746 Ropley c: 05 Oct 1746 Ropley > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > __________ NOD32 1.962 (20041231) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > >

My connection with the Lovelock family is through my wife's paternal grandmother, Elsie Annie Lovelock, born 24th June 1896 at Portsmouth. I have provided my tentative line of research below which links Elsie back to Noah Lovelock at Ropley in the 18th Century. In addition I have assembled links for most of the Lovelocks in the Portsmouth area. Regards Roger Hobbs 1 Noah Lovelock b: Abt. 1702 Ropley d: 1785 Ropley b: 22 Jan 1785 Ropley +Mary Unknown 2 Susannah Lovelock b: Abt. 1764 Ropley c: 17 Sep 1764 Ropley +Susannah Findon b: Bradley m: 29 Oct 1730 Bradley 2 Thomas Lovelock b: Abt. 1731 Ropley c: 21 Sep 1731 Ropley 2 James Lovelock b: Abt. 1732 Ropley c: 01 Oct 1732 Ropley 2 Mary Lovelock b: Abt. 1734 Ropley c: 08 Dec 1734 Ropley 2 John Lovelock b: Abt. 1737 Ropley c: 17 Jul 1737 Ropley d: 1783 New Alresford b: 11 Jul 1783 New Alresford +Sarah Dore m: 29 Apr 1770 St Lawrence, Hungerford 3 James Lovelock b: 1771 Hungerford d: 1805 Alverstoke b: 06 Oct 1805 Alverstoke +Susannah Hick m: 13 Mar 1800 St Mary's Portsea 4 James George Lovelock b: Abt. 1802 Portsmouth c: 20 Jun 1802 Alverstoke 4 William Lovelock b: 1804 Alverstoke c: 05 Aug 1804 Alverstoke +Jane Dore b: Abt. 1805 m: 02 Nov 1824 St Mary Magdalen, Widley 5 Jane Lovelock b: Abt. 1825 Wymering c: 30 Sep 1825 Wymering d: 09 Oct 1825 Wymering 5 Caroline Lovelock b: 1826 c: 26 Nov 1826 Wymering 5 William Lovelock b: 1829 Wymering c: 05 Apr 1829 Wymering d: 1898 +Jane Sarah Muston b: 1823 Portsea m: 31 Mar 1851 St Marys Portsea (Portsea VII 192) 6 Jane Sarah Lovelock b: Abt. 1853 c: 14 Dec 1857 6 William Albert Lovelock b: Abt. 1853 Portsmouth c: 14 Dec 1853 6 Walter Charles Lovelock b: Abt. 1856 Portsea c: 06 Feb 1856 6 George Dore Lovelock b: 1858 Portsea 2b 357 c: 14 Jan 1859 6 Alfred Thomas Lovelock b: Abt. 1861 c: 31 May 1861 6 Amelia Sophia Lovelock b: 1862 Portsea 2b 355 c: 27 Feb 1863 6 Herbert John Lovelock b: 29 Oct 1864 27 Lake Road, Portsea c: 31 Mar 1865 St Thomas, Portsmouth +Anne (Annie) Gardner b: 07 Mar 1867 RM Barracks, East Stonehouse m: 03 Apr 1886 St Mark's, Portsea 7 Ethel Lilian Lovelock b: 07 May 1889 Portsmouth 7 Mabel (May) F Lovelock b: 12 Jan 1891 Portsmouth 7 Nellie (Nell) C Lovelock b: 04 Sep 1895 Portsmouth 7 Elsie Annie Lovelock b: 24 Jun 1896 Portsmouth d: 16 Jun 1989 Portsmouth b: Chichester Crematorium 7 Herbert (Bert) H Lovelock b: 28 Dec 1899 Portsmouth d: 13 Apr 1954 7 Percy Leslie Lovelock b: Apr 1901 Portsmouth d: 13 Dec 1902 Portsmouth b: 17 Dec 1902 Portsea Cemetery 2 Noah Lovelock b: Abt. 1739 Ropley c: 13 Jan 1739 Ropley 2 William Lovelock b: Abt. 1742 Ropley c: 12 Dec 1742 Ropley 2 Susannah Lovelock b: Abt. 1746 Ropley c: 05 Oct 1746 Ropley

A very Happy New Year to all! I've added to the Web site a transcript of the Will of Thomas Lovelock, gardener of Compton Bassett, Wilts, 11 Oct 1839: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/lovelwill.htm#Thomas_Lovelock_1839 Many thanks to Chris Knight, who transcribed this Will. Those who followed the discussion of the connection between the Lyneham Line and the Nevada Lovelocks will recall that Thomas' brother Daniel (also a gardener) was the progenitor of both the Nevada Lovelocks (via his son George) and an Australian branch (via his son Daniel). This transcript has been added to the page of "Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PCC) Wills" at: http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/lovelwill.htm which includes a list of all Lovelock(e)/luck PCC Wills (compiled by Robert Sterry) some of which had already been transcribed (also by Robert). May I remind listers that digitised copies of all these Wills can be downloaded (for a small fee) from: http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ James

Hi Daphne Could you please send more information please. Thanks for your work in finding more on William's parents. Are we working together with this. Would you like to tell the list that we are cousins & from this family too. Would you like to tell the list that I gave you all the info back to William. Could you tell the list that I in Australia have a baby photo of you, which you hadn't seen for so long. I miss the closeness of working & sharing together. Cheers Col ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAPHNE KING" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 3:17 AM Subject: descendents of Noah Lovelock and Ann(Susannah) Finden >I have at long last made time to go through all the > information I have been collecting, and I think my > line links into the above line. > > I had already traced back to William Lovelock (4) bap: > 24.02.1793 in Dogsmerefield. He was the son of William > L(3). and Anne Cole, and a shoemaker at Dippenhall. > Siblings; James, Elizabeth, Stephen, Charlotte, John, > George, Anne, Mary, Elisha, David and > Abraham.William's(3)father was James L (2) and Martha > Tilman; James'(2) father was Noah L and Ann (Susannah) > Finden. > > I shall be interested to hear what others in this line > think. I can provide line from William(4) through to > myself. > > Daphne King. > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > ==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > __________ NOD32 1.961 (20041230) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > >

Hi Daphne, Did you try to send an attachment with your message? The Rootsweb mailing lists don't allow attachments so it would have been removed. Could you try either sending it as text or send it directly to me off-list and I'll put it on the Web site. Enjoy your New Year celebrations everyone, we're just about to start ours! James DAPHNE KING wrote: >I have at long last made time to go through all the >information I have been collecting, and I think my >line links into the above line. > >I had already traced back to William Lovelock (4) bap: >24.02.1793 in Dogsmerefield. He was the son of William >L(3). and Anne Cole, and a shoemaker at Dippenhall. >Siblings; James, Elizabeth, Stephen, Charlotte, John, >George, Anne, Mary, Elisha, David and >Abraham.William's(3)father was James L (2) and Martha >Tilman; James'(2) father was Noah L and Ann (Susannah) >Finden. > >I shall be interested to hear what others in this line >think. I can provide line from William(4) through to >myself. > >Daphne King. > > > > > >___________________________________________________________ >ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > >==== LOVELOCK Mailing List ==== >Lovelock family history Web pages: >http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > >

--0-1652328846-1104514054=:27318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --0-1652328846-1104514054=:27318 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from [217.42.17.176] by web86001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:17:14 GMT Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:17:14 +0000 (GMT) From: DAPHNE KING <[email protected]> Subject: descendents of Noah Lovelock and Ann(Susannah) Finden To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 800 I have at long last made time to go through all the information I have been collecting, and I think my line links into the above line. I had already traced back to William Lovelock (4) bap: 24.02.1793 in Dogsmerefield. He was the son of William L(3). and Anne Cole, and a shoemaker at Dippenhall. Siblings; James, Elizabeth, Stephen, Charlotte, John, George, Anne, Mary, Elisha, David and Abraham.William's(3)father was James L (2) and Martha Tilman; James'(2) father was Noah L and Ann (Susannah) Finden. I shall be interested to hear what others in this line think. I can provide line from William(4) through to myself. Daphne King. ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --0-1652328846-1104514054=:27318--