List, Soooo, could we turn this around and use this situation as a learning experience for me. I could sure use some help. Greg has a certain set of great skills, and many resources, and a lot of good experience, if he could just take just a few minutes of his time to take a look at Abram/Abraham and even William and Betsy. I am sure Greg has some info on Abram/Abraham and William from all of the list activity. Or something on James F that would be proof of his lineage. I know that the info on James F lineage is just what you might call “hearsay”, but that is all that I have to go on. My researching abilities are quite limited. He might be able to uncover some document that would come up to the Genealogy Proof Standard (GPS) That would be of great benefit from me and a few others on the lists and turn this into a positive situation. Thanks for any help, Tom