Jack, Since I got to looking at Asenath, I agree with you, looking at the 1850 census. I have 2 death dates for her. The one 10 Jan 1850, I got from Pat Brooks in notes on DESCENDANTS OF GILBERT UPDIKE of Allegan County. I believe the same is for the LDS information. The other death date I have is: 10 Jan 1856, and I am not sure where I got it. This date is more logical. Do you have any different death dates for her? BTW, in the same family of Abram/Abraham, I have yet to determine the correct ID of their son Henry. He was born about 1813. Way back in 1999, Dick Loveless brought up the same question. (1) Henry moved to MI, and was married to Martha Marinda “Patty” Thompson. In the 1850 census North Side Vermilion River, Livingston Co., IL. This Henry’s descendants are pretty much document by one Frank Loveless that use to be on the list. (2) Henry lived in NY all the time and in the 1850 census for Dix, Chemung Co., NY, and was married to an Emeline. If you have any other information on Abram's family, please let me know. I do have some information on all of their kids if you are interested. Thank you for your interest in Asenath and asking about that death date, -----Original Message----- From: Jack D. Lovelace via Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 1:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LL] Lovelace Roll Call 2014 Tom, I was going over your roll call that you posted back in Mar. How sure are you of the death date for Asenath? She was enumerated, along with Abram, on the 14th of Aug, 1850, on the Allegan County, Michigan, census. On 3/4/2014 9:09 AM, Tom Loveless wrote: > Wife: Asenath LNU Born: ABT 1783 NY Died: Jan 10, 1850 Allegan > Co., MI -- Jack D. Lovelace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message