Thank you for that information Lou Ann, it did help. I wish I would be able to go back further. I do apologive on the year of Velmar's death as I meant to put 1973. Would you happen to have any life stories of any of the Lovelace's that I'm related to? Also, if I was to do a Y-Chromosome DNA test, would it reach into the Lovelace side since Velmar is my Great Grandmother? On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 2:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: LOVELACE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 216 ([email protected]) > 2. Re: LOVELACE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 216 ([email protected]) > 3. New Cuzzin (Greg Lovelace) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 22:44:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: [LL] LOVELACE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 216 > Stephen, > I have James P Loveless b Sep 1865 in Lauderdale Co TN, d ca 1936 > Lauderdale Co TN > m Nancy Jane Beasley Mar 1885 she was b Jan 1867 TN, d Sep 5, 1934 > Lauderdale Co TN > > They had 8 children of whom Robert Lee was the oldest. Actually, Laura > Gaither said they > had seven children, but there may have been a daughter who married a Kasper > Saunderman, > but possibly died young. > > James was the son of Simon K Loveless b Mar 16, 1838, Lauderdale Co AL, d > 1928 Dyer TN > married Nancy Ann Jones Mar 19, 1862 in Lauderdale Co TN she was born ca > 1858 in TN, > but I don't have her death date. I show they had seven children, James > Pugh being the > second born, but oldest son. > > Simon was the son of Francis Loveless b Oct 13, 1793 Newberry Dist SC and d > 1870 in TN > married Elizabeth who surname was probably HIPP. She was born Jun 6, 1800 > in SC, I don't > have her death information. They had eleven children of whom Simon was > the eighth child. > > Francis was the son of Hazel Lovelace born Mar 31, 1766 in Frederick Co MD, > d Jul 30, 1838 > in Newberry Dist SC. The name of his wife in unknown to me. They had > eleven children of > whom Francis was the 4th born. > > Hazel was the son of Joseph Lovelace bon ca 1732 Charles Co MD and d bef > 1790 in Rowan Co > NC. He married Sarah Robey ca 1765 in Frederick Co MD. She was born ca > 1750 and I think > she died in SC sometime after 1840. I believe that she is found in the > households of her > sons prior to that date according to census records. I think Joseph and > Sarah had five sons > and perhaps a daughter, but Hazel is the only one found in church records > in MD. > > And now we get to the uncertain parts of our ancestry. Like our Benjamin, > we don't know > for sure who the father of Joseph is. I tend to believe that perhaps > Joseph was actually a > brother of my Benjamin (who was the father of Barton). > > It appears possible that the father of Joseph and Benjamin may have died > before the sons > were grown and I've narrowed the possibilities of who that might have been > to a Samuel > who seems to disappear from the records in MD in about 1745 and a Benjamin > who seems > to disappear from the records after 1737. > > I have found nothing that can prove any of that. Based on the fact that > both Benjamin > and Joseph lived near and went to the same church as John Baptist Lovelace, > and based > on DNA, they were cousins (records prove they weren't brothers) but perhaps > they were > even raised with JBL. > > When these folks left MD we find that JBL's kids and Joseph and his kids > end up in Rowan > Co NC where we also think our Barton (Benjamin's son) was headed before he > got > waylaid by the problem of horse theft and disappears from records for > another twelve > years. > > I'm putting all my research into one very tiny nutshell, but maybe this > will help you > fill in some gaps. > Lou Ann > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Cc: > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 23:01:26 -0500 > Subject: Re: [LL] LOVELACE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 216 > > In a message dated 12/19/14 11:23:13 AM, [email protected] writes: > > > > > > http://www.uscemeteryproj2.com/tennessee/crockett/cypress/forsythevl.htm > , > > it looks like she stayed in Crockett County TN after her divorce with > > Lois. > > She passed away in 1923 with the last name of Forsythe > > > > Stephen, 1923 isn't a good date. She was born in 1919. Did you perhaps > mean > 1973? > Thanks > Lou Ann > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Greg Lovelace <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 23:53:08 -0500 > Subject: [LL] New Cuzzin > Hi, folks > > And hello to Cindy Henderson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > Welcome to the group, Cindy. When you get comfortable with us, let us know > who you're researching, and we'll do our best to help you connect. In the > meantime, feel free to dig in our archives, and be sure to visit our > website > at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lovelace > > Our online library of Lovelxxx documents, narratives, and pictures is an > ongoing project to which we add as time allows. You can access it right now > by clicking on the "Documents" button on the left margin of the main page. > > And our y-chromosome DNA study has proven very successful in unravelling > the > confusion surrounding several of the colonial American Lovelace and > Loveless > families. The results are posted both on the FamilyTreeDNA website > (http://www.familytreedna.com/public/lovelace/) and on our own DNA website > (http://dna.satmel.com/results.html) Take a look! > > > Glad to have with us :-) > > Peace, > Part of the Tree, > Greg > > > > To contact the LOVELACE list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the LOVELACE mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > >

Y-Chromosome DNA is strictly paternal line. If you haven't dome any DNA testing, this is what you need to get someone to give you for Christmas (maybe give it to yourself): https://www.familytreedna.com/family-finder-compare.aspx Ancestry.com and 23andMe offer essentially the same test. Serious researchers upload their results to GEDmatch.com when they receive them so that they can compare with people that tested with other services. Autosomal DNA tests like these help find common ancestors (i.e. locate cousin relationships) and the sex of the people being compared does not matter. Hope this helps. Jack Wyatt ________________________________ From: Stephen Scarborough via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [LL] LOVELACE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 218 Thank you for that information Lou Ann, it did help. I wish I would be able to go back further. I do apologive on the year of Velmar's death as I meant to put 1973. Would you happen to have any life stories of any of the Lovelace's that I'm related to? Also, if I was to do a Y-Chromosome DNA test, would it reach into the Lovelace side since Velmar is my Great Grandmother?