Hey there Frank, Welcome back to the list, and to the list to the other New Cuzzins. I was just working on your line yesterday. Do you have anything on one IRA LOVELESS? I believe he is the brother to your Henry Loveless (1813-1858). That is the way it looks in the 1850 Livingston County, Illinois census. 1850 Census IL, Livingston, North Side Vermilion River, August (1 of 18) Page 147b (34) Henry Loveless 36 M Merchant New York (35) Martha M. 32 F New York (36) Harriett M 12 F Ohio (37) Henry 10 M Ohio (38) Edwin 08 M Ohio (39) Loren 04 M Ohio (40) Alice 03 F Illinois (41) Amelia? 8/12 F Illinois (42) Ira 34 M New York Next page (1) Charles 06 M Ohio Tom Loveless