The possible middle initials for David Loveless in the California marriage roster for 1960-1994 are J K M R and W. I don't see a David E. Loveless. The middle initial of the Arlene Loveless I mentioned is M, so she may not be the one you are looking for. On closer inspection I see that one of the Arlenes spelled her last name Lovelace instead of Loveless and appears to be about 7 or 8 years younger than the other one. Looks like there are two Arlenes in the marriage roster, and only the one who married Wade Bean is in the time frame that fits your search. Still the wrong middle initial, though. I don't know where to go from here. DW -----Original Message----- From: David [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:00 AM To: David Wilson Subject: Re: [LL] Joe and rufena loveless I don't know much at all about them besides what I have found on ancestry and that's it what I've told you David middle initial is e but that's it it and Arlenes is r Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2015, at 12:00 AM, David Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Joseph died 2 July 1988. Place of residence at that time was Desert > Hot Springs, Riverside County, CA. Rufena died 31 August 1988; Place > of residence at that time was Tustin, Orange County, CA. > Findagrave.com could not give me a cemetery where they are known to be buried. > > I couldn't find Joe in the 1940 census. Where in Michigan was he living? > > An Arlene Loveless b. 1954 was married twice in Los Angeles. On 15 Sep > 1974 she married Wade F. Bean. I didn't look for a divorce, but on 16 > Aug 1980 she married Able Moreno. > > There are several marriages recorded for men named David Loveless with > different middle initials and different birth years from 1947 to 1957. > Some of the marriages occurred in Los Angeles and some not. Do you > know the middle name of the David Loveless you are researching? > > David Wilson > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of David via > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LL] Joe and rufena loveless > > Hello guys I am looking for information on joe and rufena loveless joe > was the son of William p loveless of elizabethon tn, joe was born on > December > 31,1907 in carter county Tennessee but moved to Michigan and is listed > in the 1940 census later he moved to California he had two children > David and Arlene loveless and both were born in the 30's or 40's am > not sure when both joe and rufena are buried in California but I would > like to know more about his children > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have found David loveless buts it's not David it's Gerald Duane loveless he was born in 1938 and died in 1998 in Wayne county Michigan Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2015, at 10:50 AM, David Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The possible middle initials for David Loveless in the California marriage > roster for 1960-1994 are J K M R and W. I don't see a David E. Loveless. The > middle initial of the Arlene Loveless I mentioned is M, so she may not be > the one you are looking for. > > On closer inspection I see that one of the Arlenes spelled her last name > Lovelace instead of Loveless and appears to be about 7 or 8 years younger > than the other one. Looks like there are two Arlenes in the marriage roster, > and only the one who married Wade Bean is in the time frame that fits your > search. Still the wrong middle initial, though. > > I don't know where to go from here. > > DW > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:00 AM > To: David Wilson > Subject: Re: [LL] Joe and rufena loveless > > I don't know much at all about them besides what I have found on ancestry > and that's it what I've told you David middle initial is e but that's it it > and Arlenes is r > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 27, 2015, at 12:00 AM, David Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Joseph died 2 July 1988. Place of residence at that time was Desert >> Hot Springs, Riverside County, CA. Rufena died 31 August 1988; Place >> of residence at that time was Tustin, Orange County, CA. >> Findagrave.com could not give me a cemetery where they are known to be > buried. >> >> I couldn't find Joe in the 1940 census. Where in Michigan was he living? >> >> An Arlene Loveless b. 1954 was married twice in Los Angeles. On 15 Sep >> 1974 she married Wade F. Bean. I didn't look for a divorce, but on 16 >> Aug 1980 she married Able Moreno. >> >> There are several marriages recorded for men named David Loveless with >> different middle initials and different birth years from 1947 to 1957. >> Some of the marriages occurred in Los Angeles and some not. Do you >> know the middle name of the David Loveless you are researching? >> >> David Wilson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of David via >> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:05 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [LL] Joe and rufena loveless >> >> Hello guys I am looking for information on joe and rufena loveless joe >> was the son of William p loveless of elizabethon tn, joe was born on >> December >> 31,1907 in carter county Tennessee but moved to Michigan and is listed >> in the 1940 census later he moved to California he had two children >> David and Arlene loveless and both were born in the 30's or 40's am >> not sure when both joe and rufena are buried in California but I would >> like to know more about his children >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
More on this...from Cindy Settles data on ancestry.com... Joseph Ernest Loveless & Vera Rufena Dunbar - son David Earnest Loveless b 11/7/1936 in MI d 10 4 1990 San Bernardino, San Bernardino, California, USA source CA Death Index; SSDI Name: David Earnest Loveless Social Security #: 383344412 Gender: Male Birth Date: 7 Nov 1936 Birth Place: Michigan Death Date: 4 Oct 1990 Death Place: San Bernardino Mother's Maiden Name: Dunbar ============= There is a picture of the headstone for the couple but no cemetery location - it's not on find-a-grave.... Joseph E Loveless Birth 31 Dec 1907 in Tennessee, United States Death 2 Jul 1988 in Desert Hot Springs, Riverside, California, USA =============== Entry for where Arlene would show is listed as private Bob. -----Original Message----- From: David via Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 5:39 AM To: David Wilson ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LL] Joe and rufena loveless I have found David loveless buts it's not David it's Gerald Duane loveless he was born in 1938 and died in 1998 in Wayne county Michigan Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2015, at 10:50 AM, David Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The possible middle initials for David Loveless in the California marriage > roster for 1960-1994 are J K M R and W. I don't see a David E. Loveless. > The > middle initial of the Arlene Loveless I mentioned is M, so she may not be > the one you are looking for. > > On closer inspection I see that one of the Arlenes spelled her last name > Lovelace instead of Loveless and appears to be about 7 or 8 years younger > than the other one. Looks like there are two Arlenes in the marriage > roster, > and only the one who married Wade Bean is in the time frame that fits your > search. Still the wrong middle initial, though. > > I don't know where to go from here. > > DW > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:00 AM > To: David Wilson > Subject: Re: [LL] Joe and rufena loveless > > I don't know much at all about them besides what I have found on ancestry > and that's it what I've told you David middle initial is e but that's it > it > and Arlenes is r > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 27, 2015, at 12:00 AM, David Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Joseph died 2 July 1988. Place of residence at that time was Desert >> Hot Springs, Riverside County, CA. Rufena died 31 August 1988; Place >> of residence at that time was Tustin, Orange County, CA. >> Findagrave.com could not give me a cemetery where they are known to be > buried. >> >> I couldn't find Joe in the 1940 census. Where in Michigan was he living? >> >> An Arlene Loveless b. 1954 was married twice in Los Angeles. On 15 Sep >> 1974 she married Wade F. Bean. I didn't look for a divorce, but on 16 >> Aug 1980 she married Able Moreno. >> >> There are several marriages recorded for men named David Loveless with >> different middle initials and different birth years from 1947 to 1957. >> Some of the marriages occurred in Los Angeles and some not. Do you >> know the middle name of the David Loveless you are researching? >> >> David Wilson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of David via >> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:05 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [LL] Joe and rufena loveless >> >> Hello guys I am looking for information on joe and rufena loveless joe >> was the son of William p loveless of elizabethon tn, joe was born on >> December >> 31,1907 in carter county Tennessee but moved to Michigan and is listed >> in the 1940 census later he moved to California he had two children >> David and Arlene loveless and both were born in the 30's or 40's am >> not sure when both joe and rufena are buried in California but I would >> like to know more about his children >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message