David Very vacinating the information you have given. I apeciate all you share with us. Thank you for taking time to give us the insite. My brother is Lawrence G Loveless and I am very patiently (not really :)) waiting for his test to be completed. B4 DNA testing always thought we had the horse thief and the Redcoat and Colonial Governors. O well it is all good to find out the correct info. Question for all which side ties to the Duke of Lovelace? Or have we been able to trace. Thank you. Betsy Ri/Ny group