My apologies to Cindy Cary. I overlooked her father's DNA haplotype when I posted my previous message. There are in fact nine members of the RI/NY group in the Lovelxxx DNA project, not eight. Add: 177475 Charles William Loveless (37 markers tested) The interesting thing about this haplotype is that at every marker it has the most common value for the entire RI/NY group. That makes this haplotype the Modal Haplotype (and quite possibly the founder haplotype) for the RI/NY group. When we see haplotypes that differ from this one, it is because a mutation has occurred in the line leading from the founder to the tested individual who shows the mutation. As always, it is tough to pick the generation in which a single mutation occurred. It might have happened first in the tested individual himself, or it may have happened in the first generation after the most recent common ancestor, or in any generation in between. Cindy, apologies once again. Your father's haplotype is quite valuable as a baseline to compare other RI/NY haplotypes against. David Wilson

I have still never gotten a test done from any of my uncles' sons - it would not be easy, but do you think it would be valuable? Joshua 1743 RI/NY.> David 176* NY>Joseph B. PA 1837>Charles William PA 187*>Elmer Oscar NY 1898>Esther Paula 1937 NY>Debra S. Zellweger Burke 1957 NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Wilson" <dcw1000@verizon.net> To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:00 PM Subject: [LL] Addendum to note on RI/NY DNA > My apologies to Cindy Cary. I overlooked her father's DNA haplotype when I > posted my previous message. There are in fact nine members of the RI/NY > group in the Lovelxxx DNA project, not eight. > > Add: > > 177475 Charles William Loveless (37 markers tested) > > The interesting thing about this haplotype is that at every marker it has > the most common value for the entire RI/NY group. That makes this > haplotype > the Modal Haplotype (and quite possibly the founder haplotype) for the > RI/NY > group. When we see haplotypes that differ from this one, it is because a > mutation has occurred in the line leading from the founder to the tested > individual who shows the mutation. > > As always, it is tough to pick the generation in which a single mutation > occurred. It might have happened first in the tested individual himself, > or > it may have happened in the first generation after the most recent common > ancestor, or in any generation in between. > > Cindy, apologies once again. Your father's haplotype is quite valuable as > a > baseline to compare other RI/NY haplotypes against. > > David Wilson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message