In a message dated 12/9/10 7:48:18 PM, 1_twig@comcast.net writes: > http://www.van-hook.us/getperson.php?personID=I2186&tree=genuser > The following is the doc I was referring to earlier. 15 Jan 1780 (Cert S'd for 400 fees &c pd D. D. to Jas Dunkin) Joseph Lovlass by John Haggin this day claimed a preemption of 400 Acres of land at the State price in the district of Kentucky lying on the West fork of Coopers run adjoining William McGee on the s'd Fork by making an Actual settlement in the Month of March 1779 Satisfactory proof being made to the Court they are of Opinion that the s'd Lovelass has a right to a preemption of 400 Acres of land to include the above location & that a Cert issue accordingly. Then: © by Rhonda Robertson, 1998 - “”Page 280 - John Yancy...258 ac...on the waters of the north fork of Holstein River...Commissioners Certificate...Beginning on a spur of Walkers Mountain near a little lick, corner to Peter Sideburns land...corner to Watsons land...on Marklands corner...near Logans corner...February 26, 1785 - John Yancy, assignee of Andrew Johnson, assignee of Richard Brindle, assignee of ** John Lovelap ** ...400 ac...on a branch of the north fork of Holstein, includes improvements, 80 ac. surveyed on December 8, 1774 for Brindle...actual settlement made in 1774...August 27, 1781.”” I think this is may be a Loveless because every time I’ve seen a name indexed as “Lovelap” and have seen the original writing it has actually been Lovelass or Loveless. This land became John's. John and Rachel in 1778 named their first son Joseph. The older Joseph could be the father of John, but I've always wondered if they might have been brothers. There was another Lovelace in the vicinity of "Good Tom" and his name was William. Could William and Thomas be orphans of Joseph? William married Rebecca Cawood of the MD Cawoods. John Thomas married ROY sisters? Did he actually marry both Susannah and Virginia? At any rate they had a brother who married Mary Van Hook....a relative of Rachel Van Hook, but I don't remember how they are related. I need to go back and research this some more. It's been a while since I worked on this family and need to refresh my memory, but there are so many "coincidences" that I wonder if they can be that coincidental. Lou Ann