Cuzzin Jimmie, I found the date of birth for Elizabeth on her death certificate from Brown County TX. I believe it is the same date of birth written in my dads baby book but I will have to wait until I get the information from him to verify that. It might be a different one than the one listed on her death certificate. I have found through the little research that I have done the census records are not always accurate. There is always going to be some type of human error if you know what I mean. The Elizabeth I am looking at was buried in the East Lawn Memorial cemetary in Brownwood TX, the same cemetary that William is buried in. My dads baby book lists her parents as John B Garrett and Annie Martin. I think Annie may be her middle name but I don't know that for sure yet. His baby book also indicates that she was born in Brown County. I have have slowed down my research until I get the FTM 2010 software so I can better document where I am getting my information from. I started my research and didn't document where I had gotten the information and now I am kicking myself in the backside for that mistake. I should be able to get that by this weekend or the first part of next week and I will start back up. I will keep you posted on what I find out about her. Cuz Keith Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "Jimmie Ryan" <Jimmie.Ryan@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:51:27 To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LL] Elizabeth "Lizzie" Garrett Lovelace So you show September 29, 1897 as her birth yet the 1900 census shows her birth as Jun 1891; her death record in Georgia states Jun 1881 which I believe is the wrong woman and Troup Georgia is not her but another Elizabeth Lovelace which also has census record for Troup, Georgia for 1910 when Elizabeth Lizzie is in Texas with children, it has been my experience to find that women turn out to say they are much younger than they really are when they age. I have used the census information of the 1900 census as the only baseline for her true age, except when I can get death and birth certificates it is so much clearer. My grandmother in the 1900 census shows she was born in 1892, yet her death certificate states she was born in 1896, so from my great grandmothers bible she noted that she was in fact born in 1892, so she was a bit older then her own children knew. Four out of the five Ancestry files have her birthdate as 13 Jan 1889, so I suspect you now have your own mystery here and I will update my file to your information, except the 1987 birth date. The only record I can find on FamilySearch is, which would be in the same general area of where she would have lived or maybe her children lived.: Elizabeth LOVELESS Birth Date: 12 Oct 1894 Death Date: 6 Jul 1989 Social Security Number: 459-20-9356 State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Texas Death Residence Localities ZIP Code: 78747 Localities: Austin, Travis, Texas Creedmoor, Travis, Texas Is this the record in FamilySearch? Cuz Jimmie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message