I was the one that traveled a little ways to see Bob Loveless. He was an odd sort of guy but very talented when it came to knives. He had received a medical report at that time that said he wasn't going to be living much longer. I am glad to know he proved the doctors wrong. I wanted to order two of his knives for my son in laws but he said he had so many back orders that he wouldn't be able to fill them all. He did sell me two of the knives made by another man but his design. He autographed them for me. After Linda Parsons and I compiled information about his family, I took it to him. He wasn't impressed at all and was very disappointed that we hadn't researched his maternal line. For commanding the prices that he did, you would be shocked at his living quarters and his knife facility. Very shocked. Jane Westlake In a message dated 10/8/2010 7:41:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dcw1000@verizon.net writes: I keep forgetting to submit this notice. Last month it was reported on a firearms/edged weapons forum that I follow that famed knifemaker Bob Loveless died September 2, 2010. If I recall correctly, a couple of the Lovelxxx list members contacted Bob Loveless about seven or eight years ago and got some information from him about his roots. He was born in Ohio, but I don't recall where his earlier generations may have lived. I have not yet looked in the archives to see what info may be there. Bob Loveless was more artist than steel shaper. If you check out his website www.lovelessknife.com you will see samples of his work. Prepare to be astonished at the prices his work commanded. For those of you who might wonder, no -- I don't own any. And at those prices I never will. David Wilson Benjamin/Barton/Samuel/Seaborn etc. (MD group) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is an obituary I found. Jane, I'm so glad you went to see Bob. I appreciate the autograph you sent me for my son. I always imagined his home as sort of like the "hoarder" programs we see on TV. :-) Wendy R.W. 'Bob' Loveless dies at 81; master knife-maker To many hunters, collectors and fellow bladesmen, the Riverside resident crafted the best handmade knives in the modern world. He was known for fixed-blade knives with unsurpassed workmanship. By Valerie J. Nelson, Los Angeles Times September 9, 2010 R.W. "Bob" Loveless, who made some of the world's most coveted sporting cutlery by refining knife design to high art, has died. He was 81. Loveless died Sept. 2 of lung cancer at his longtime home in Riverside, said his friend Jack Lucarelli. "He is pretty much the Picasso of the knife world and the father of 20th century knife-making," said John Denton, an authority on Loveless knives. "His design is what made him famous." To many hunters, collectors and fellow bladesmen, Loveless crafted the best handmade knives in the modern world. He was known for fixed-blade knives with unsurpassed workmanship. "He always said, 'You want it to look so good that you want to pick it up, and feel so good that you don't want to put it down,' " Denton recalled. In 1953, Loveless was a seaman on furlough when he tried to buy a blade by master knife-maker Bo Randall at sporting outfitter Abercrombie & Fitch. Told there was a nine-month waiting list, Loveless later said he thought, "It can't be so hard," and decided to make his own. Returning to his ship, he created his first knife from the steel spring of a 1930s Packard automobile, forging the blade on a galley stove. He sold his first knives for $14 to Abercrombie & Fitch in 1954. When Loveless died, he was selling his knives for $5,000 to $20,000, said Edmund Davidson, a Virginia knife-maker. Loveless' most popular blade was a widely imitated drop-point hunting knife, "a modern-day classic which many consider the most attractive knife design of all time," American Handgunner magazine said in 2006. He liked to say his knives were aimed at "the working man," but their beauty and craftsmanship made them highly collectible, Denton said. A major dealer of Loveless knives, Denton once sold one for $50,000 that resold three years later for $150,000. "A knife is a tool, and I make 'em to be used," Loveless groused to The Times in 1981. "It burns me up that most of them wind up in velvet boxes and display cases, priced so high your average deer hunter or cowboy can't afford 'em." In explaining why people might think his knives were better, he told Sports Illustrated in 1980: "A knife is an extension of your experience. And I've had more experiences than most people. There's more character running in my veins." Robert Waldorf Loveless was born Jan. 2, 1929, in Warren, Ohio, and grew up on his grandparents' Ohio farm. At 15, he doctored his birth certificate and joined the merchant marine during World War II. The knife fights he witnessed in foreign ports intensified his interest in the weapon, according to Sports Illustrated. After the war, he joined the Army Air Forces, serving as a control-tower operator on Guam and Iwo Jima. In the early 1950s, he studied at the Institute of Design in Chicago but left after a few months. One lesson from the Bauhaus movement seemed to stay with him: Form follows function. Back in Ohio, he attended Kent State but soon dropped out to work on a tanker, where he became familiar with Randall knives. Once Abercrombie & Fitch started buying his tools, Loveless settled in Delaware before moving to Modesto in 1959. The next year, he moved to Lawndale and worked in machine shops while making knives on the side in his garage. By the late 1960s, he owned enough machinery to craft knives full time. He was the first to use the corrosion-resistant steel that became the industry standard, said Davidson, a board member of the Knifemakers' Guild, an industry organization Loveless helped found in 1970. In Japan, which Loveless often visited with his Japanese American second wife, he was regarded as a spiritual master of blade craft and was even more revered than he was at home, Denton said. For decades, Loveless had lived in Riverside, creating knives that were so popular that a five-year wait for one was not uncommon. Since 1982, he had made knives with Jim Merritt, who will continue the Loveless line. Often outfitted in the shirt and hat of a train engineer, Loveless was a big man with a big personality, a colorful character who wouldn't sell a fighting knife unless the buyer could prove he was in a hazardous profession. His survivors include his wife, Yoshiko; three daughters from a first marriage that ended in divorce; and two stepdaughters. A memorial service is pending.