Actually in our family (Barton of GA and kids) there are more than one place where Cherokee blood comes in. Like Anne said, in Abner's family there is the Townsend claim. I've talked with GA historians who do believe Anna Townsend was part Indian, although the "chief" claim is probably not accurate. There are some interesting "family lore" type stories about how the Indian came about, but nothing has ever been proven because like Anne said there are no rolls to back it up. Then Barton's sister Lucinda married Joel Underwood of Cherokee descent. This bloodline has been proven. Then, there's my grandfather who told me he had a Cherokee grandfather. That would not be through the Loveless line, however. I think it had to come from his mother who definitely did have an Indian look. Again, no proof yet. And there may be more that I'm not aware of. Lou Ann

I found Thomas Loveless in the 1896 Dawes rolls under Choctaw case #60. Sarah Loveless is also listed as a founding ancester for the Wayandot nation.She was kidnapped with 8 other Loveless' from Martin's Fort by French allied Shawnee and brutally marched to Canada on foot during the French/Indian war.Sarah was adopted by the Wayandot and after her rescue chose to stay with the tribe.She was given a tract of land in Ky.at a place then called "negroe's point" Do not know which "Thomas" this is,though. --- On Fri, 7/16/10, Brondak@aol.com <Brondak@aol.com> wrote: From: Brondak@aol.com <Brondak@aol.com> Subject: Re: [LL] Cherokee Blood To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 11:34 AM Actually in   our family (Barton of GA and kids) there are more than one place where Cherokee blood comes in.   Like Anne said, in Abner's family there is the Townsend claim. I've talked with GA historians who do believe Anna Townsend was part Indian, although the "chief" claim is probably not accurate.   There are some interesting "family lore" type stories about how the Indian came about, but nothing has ever been proven because like Anne said there are no rolls to back it up. Then Barton's sister Lucinda married Joel Underwood of Cherokee descent.    This bloodline has been proven. Then, there's my grandfather who told me he had a Cherokee grandfather.    That would not be through the Loveless line, however.   I think it had to come from his mother who definitely did have an Indian look.   Again, no proof yet. And there may be more that I'm not aware of. Lou Ann ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On my Loveless line from Jesse and Rebecca to Pinkney Wilson and James Larkin has no Native American blood in it. We are English and Scot-Irish with a smidgen of French. Most likely by the time they moved to an area the Native population had been forced out. > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:31:16 -0700 > From: wsloveless@yahoo.com > To: lovelace@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LL] Cherokee Blood > > I found Thomas Loveless in the 1896 Dawes rolls under Choctaw case #60. > Sarah Loveless is also listed as a founding ancester for the Wayandot nation.She was kidnapped with 8 other Loveless' from Martin's Fort by French allied Shawnee and brutally marched to Canada on foot during the French/Indian war.Sarah was adopted by the Wayandot and after her rescue chose to stay with the tribe.She was given a tract of land in Ky.at a place then called "negroe's point" Do not know which "Thomas" this is,though. > > --- On Fri, 7/16/10, Brondak@aol.com <Brondak@aol.com> wrote: > > From: Brondak@aol.com <Brondak@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [LL] Cherokee Blood > To: lovelace@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 11:34 AM > > Actually in our family (Barton of GA and kids) there are more than one > place where > Cherokee blood comes in. Like Anne said, in Abner's family there is the > Townsend claim. > I've talked with GA historians who do believe Anna Townsend was part > Indian, although > the "chief" claim is probably not accurate. There are some interesting > "family lore" > type stories about how the Indian came about, but nothing has ever been > proven because > like Anne said there are no rolls to back it up. > > Then Barton's sister Lucinda married Joel Underwood of Cherokee descent. > This bloodline > has been proven. > > Then, there's my grandfather who told me he had a Cherokee grandfather. > That would > not be through the Loveless line, however. I think it had to come from > his mother who > definitely did have an Indian look. Again, no proof yet. > > And there may be more that I'm not aware of. > Lou Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 11:34 AM 7/16/2010,Lou Ann wrote: >Then Barton's sister Lucinda married Joel Underwood Oh, my! Have I missed this all these years? Barton's sister was named Lucinda??? Geez... Could it be that she was named after her grandmother Lucy Watson Lovelace? This lends more credence to my idea that Lucy Green of Rutherford Co., NC, wife of Lewis Green, was the daughter of Benjamin (son of ol' Barton and uncle to Barton of GA) and Nancy Lovelace. Still trying to find evidence to back up my belief that Lewis and Nancy were siblings. I know from the church records that Lucy was asked to leave the fellowship of Walls Baptist Church in Rutherford Co. The reason was that their sister church, Sandy Run Baptist, had already booted Lewis and Lucy from the church because they were uncle and niece as well as husband and wife, and that Sandy Run was upset when Lucy was accepted into the fellowship at Walls. Lucy's father (that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!) Benjamin was a charter member of Walls, so (and this came from Cuzzin Doug Lovelace as conjecture) instead of booting her outright as they did with normal folk who ran askew of their rules, they politely asked her to withdraw from the church, which she did, and that settled the matter between Walls and Sandy Run. One interesting side note to this... Lewis Green is mentioned many times in the minute books of Walls. He was always contributing to the church when they needed a little cash to, say, buy blank books for the minutes or collect for the pastor's salary, but he was never mentioned as "brother"... he was always called "a friend". Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3009 - Release Date: 07/16/10 02:35:00