David Wilson and Pam/Tom Loveless:   I would be interested in the particulars of your Brewer descent, if you can find the time. I cannot seem to find it on the internet just yet.   Best regards,   Terry --- On Sun, 6/20/10, terrence White <revenant1963@yahoo.com> wrote: From: terrence White <revenant1963@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [LL] William Physician Brewer To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 7:54 PM To David Wilson, and Tom and Pam Loveless,   I am delighted to discover that I am related to both of you via the Brewers as well as the Lovelxxxes! Small world indeed!   To David--no, in my line we had always believed we were "Whites", and had never, therefore, heard any lore about any Cherokee ancestry. (Now, of course, we know that genetically we are Brewers.) I do see from elsewhere on the internet (other Brewer descendants no doubt) that Lanier Brewer Jr. supposedly had two successive wives, with children by both wives, plus an Indian squaw concubine on the side, with children by her! He supposedly fathered no less than 30 sons and 3 daughters by those three women!   Because my earliest provable "White" ancestor Jacob White Jr. born 1772 NC (genetically identical to the modal haplotype for descendants of George Brewer and Sarah Lanier) came from North Carolina, and because in the 1790 census of NC, of the 3 men named Jacob White in that census, one lived in Chatham County NC--exactly the same county where so many of these Brewer men lived prior to moving to Tennessee, I am now strongly inclining toward believing that it may have been my ancestor Jacob White "Jr" who may have been fathered by a Brewer (perhaps that same prodigious Lanier Brewer Jr.), and then perhaps adopted by a man named Jacob White of NC, and given the White surname. This little theory of mine makes enormous sense to me.   Given that we "Whites" who have tested (my 4th cousin Roger and I) exactly match the modal haplotype of the "Lanier-Brewer" group (descendants of George and Sarah Lanier Brewer), I am inclined to strongly suspect that the ancestor of mine whose name changed from "Brewer" to "White" had to have lived fairly recently, since there have been no mutations whatsoever (at 37 markers). I do plan, of course, to upgrade to 67 markers. As David will know, those results will be telling.   More on this subject when the 67-marker results come in.   Thanks for speaking up, all of you!   Terry --- On Sun, 6/20/10, David Wilson <dcw1000@verizon.net> wrote: From: David Wilson <dcw1000@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [LL] William Physician Brewer To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 1:10 PM Small world indeed! I tie into the Brewers too, but in a way that I don't completely understand. I have a Lanier Brewer Sr. in the tree, who would be my 6G GF, and whom I currently have (perhaps incorrectly) as a son of George Brewer. I may push at this a bit more today to see if I can straighten this out. Lanier's 2G granddaughter, Sarah Elizabeth Davis (1870-1949) married my GGF James S. Loveless in 1884. There is a story that some of the VA Brewers had Cherokee ancestry. Do you have that lore in your line? David Wilson -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Loveless Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:40 PM To: LOVELACE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LL] William Physician Brewer Hey there Terry W. Funny that you mention William the "Physician" Brewer, of Chard, Somerset. My wife descends from the same guy. Several generations then came a Sampson, son a George Brewer (1775-1850) whose father was  Lanier Brewer, Jr.  b: 1746 in Brunswick Co., VA. Sampson moved from NC, to TN, then to AR where we live. Amazing what a small world it is after all. Thanks for information. Tom and Pam Loveless In really hot and sunny in Little Rock, AR (95+) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2946 - Release Date: 06/19/10 23:37:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message