Congratulations Terry. It is wonderful that you have found your ancestor. Makes me wish I was a man! (No test for women) Best Wishes, Barbara Barbara Rendina Jun 16, 2010 11:52:40 AM, lovelace@rootsweb.com wrote: Hi everyone, Some of you will remember me. I've been very quiet lately. This is not related to the Lovelxxx surname (which is among my ancestry, however), but is about genetic genealogy in general. I thought I'd mention, for whatever it is worth, that I recently did a 37-marker yDNA test on myself, and my results are clear, unequivocal, and even dramatic: It so happens that I PRECISELY match the modal haplotype (at 37 markers tested), not for any family surnamed "White" (as I would have expected), but a surname of "Brewer". A fourth cousin, twice removed, to myself, named Roger White, also tested, and his results were identical to my own. As I say, my and Roger's results exactly match the modal haplotype for a group which calls itself the "Lanier-Brewer" group, because it descends (on paper) from a man named George Brewer (c.1670-1744), whose wife was Sarah Lanier. This family originated in Isle of Wight County, Virginia, and goes back (again, on paper) to a Dr. William Brewer, of Chard, Somerset, who left a magnificent effigy tomb in the Church of St. Mary-the-Virgin, Chard, Somerset. This tomb still exists to this day. These Brewers, who were (fortunately) recorded in the "Visitation of London" in 1634 (and were therefore armigerous), were related by marriage to the Drake family (also armigerous) of Somerset, who seem to have been connected to the Drake family of Ashe, Devon (ancestors of Sir Winston Churchill, *inter alia*), since their arms were nearly identical. One of the Drake uncles of one of my genetic Brewer ancestors (John Brewer, "citizen and grocer of London", who emigrated to Virginia) was Dr. Roger Drake, physician and writer, who was notable enough to make it into the prestigious "Dictionary of National Biography." I am suspecting that it may have been my EPA (earliest proven ancestor) Jacob White Jr. (1772 NC--ca.1855 GA) who was the person who was fathered by a Brewer, for the reason that he is a 'mystery man', about whom little is known or documentable. Jacob Jr. is further of interest as the candidate because when he was born in 1772, his "father" Jacob White Sr. was only 16 years old. Possible, yes. But not very likely. Of course, the NPE (non-parental event) or adoption could have just as reasonably happened several generations earlier. I mention this both for its own interest, but mainly to underscore the importance of genetic testing for genealogical purposes. Of all the genetic tests of which I am personally aware, none of the results have ever been as dramatic or emphatic as my own. As you might imagine, I could never have expected such good luck as this! If you have not already been tested, go get yourself tested! You never know what will turn up. I hope everyone is well and happy. Stay out of the Summertime heat! We are sweltering here in Georgia (95 degree daytime highs for several days now). Best regards, Terry W. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well Terry B.............what a fun note to all of us. Thanks for sharing. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: <bopete67@verizon.net> To: <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [LL] New 37-marker "White" surname yDNA test for Terry > > Congratulations Terry. It is wonderful that you have found your > ancestor. > Makes me wish I was a man! (No test for women) Best Wishes, Barbara > Barbara Rendina > Jun 16, 2010 11:52:40 AM, lovelace@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Hi everyone, > Some of you will remember me. I've been very quiet lately. This is not > related to the Lovelxxx surname (which is among my ancestry, however), > but > is about genetic genealogy in general. > I thought I'd mention, for whatever it is worth, that I recently did a > 37-marker yDNA test on myself, and my results are clear, unequivocal, > and > even dramatic: > It so happens that I PRECISELY match the modal haplotype (at 37 > markers > tested), not for any family surnamed "White" (as I would have > expected), > but > a surname of "Brewer". > A fourth cousin, twice removed, to myself, named Roger White, also > tested, > and his results were identical to my own. > As I say, my and Roger's results exactly match the modal haplotype for > a > group which calls itself the "Lanier-Brewer" group, because it > descends > (on > paper) from a man named George Brewer (c.1670-1744), whose wife was > Sarah > Lanier. This family originated in Isle of Wight County, Virginia, and > goes > back (again, on paper) to a Dr. William Brewer, of Chard, Somerset, > who > left > a magnificent effigy tomb in the Church of St. Mary-the-Virgin, Chard, > Somerset. This tomb still exists to this day. These Brewers, who were > (fortunately) recorded in the "Visitation of London" in 1634 (and were > therefore armigerous), were related by marriage to the Drake family > (also > armigerous) of Somerset, who seem to have been connected to the Drake > family > of Ashe, Devon (ancestors of Sir Winston Churchill, *inter alia*), > since > their arms were nearly identical. One of the Drake uncles of one of my > genetic Brewer ancestors (John Brewer, "citizen and grocer of London", > who > emigrated to Virginia) was Dr. Roger Drake, physician and writer, who > was > notable enough to make it into the prestigious "Dictionary of National > Biography." > I am suspecting that it may have been my EPA (earliest proven > ancestor) > Jacob White Jr. (1772 NC--ca.1855 GA) who was the person who was > fathered > by > a Brewer, for the reason that he is a 'mystery man', about whom little > is > known or documentable. Jacob Jr. is further of interest as the > candidate > because when he was born in 1772, his "father" Jacob White Sr. was > only 16 > years old. Possible, yes. But not very likely. Of course, the NPE > (non-parental event) or adoption could have just as reasonably > happened > several generations earlier. > I mention this both for its own interest, but mainly to underscore the > importance of genetic testing for genealogical purposes. Of all the > genetic > tests of which I am personally aware, none of the results have ever > been > as > dramatic or emphatic as my own. As you might imagine, I could never > have > expected such good luck as this! > If you have not already been tested, go get yourself tested! You never > know > what will turn up. > I hope everyone is well and happy. Stay out of the Summertime heat! We > are > sweltering here in Georgia (95 degree daytime highs for several days > now). > Best regards, > Terry W. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message