List and all you dna experts, I have to confess that I'm still a little bit at sea concerning the actual ancestral value of autosomal DNA. It seems that beyond the frist two or three generations, any matches are more random than definitive, However, that being said, I do have a question. In the cae of Abraham Lovelace whose line has daughtered out, therefore not available for Y-DNA, do you think it could help us put him with the Lovelace MD bunch (or noe) whichever the case may be? I personally think he belongs, but would love to find some proof more than trhe slim evidence we have. Lou Ann

Lou Ann I don't think autosomal can place someone in a "family". You can go back more than 2-3 generations, and you are right, matches can be random rather than definitive. You only make them definitive by triangulating the same segment with people from the same line. If you have three or more that match the same segment (especially if it is bigger than 7cM, then you know they have a common ancestor. If you can identify most recent common ancestry with them and rule out any other common ancestry, it's pretty golden. So for the case of Abraham, the best you could do is find multiple descendants of his that share the same segment. But that wouldn't place him in MD. However, if you could find multiple descendants of his that share a segment and multiple descendants of a MD Lovelace that also share the same segment, then it's a good bet that you have found Abraham's brother, cousin, etc. This is a longshot right now. But maybe as more people get tested and the testing companies refine their tools and give us more tools ourselves. Lenny On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Brondak via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > List and all you dna experts, > I have to confess that I'm still a little bit at sea concerning the actual > ancestral value of > autosomal DNA. It seems that beyond the frist two or three generations, > any matches > are more random than definitive, > > However, that being said, I do have a question. In the cae of Abraham > Lovelace whose line > has daughtered out, therefore not available for Y-DNA, do you think it > could help us put > him with the Lovelace MD bunch (or noe) whichever the case may be? I > personally think > he belongs, but would love to find some proof more than trhe slim evidence > we have. > Lou Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lou Ann, do you have a little more info about this Abraham Lovelace. I have 2. One born 1866 and a Jr. born 1901. At 04:12 PM 7/3/2016, you wrote: List and all you dna experts, I have to confess that I'm still a little bit at sea concerning the actual ancestral value of autosomal DNA. It seems that beyond the frist two or three generations, any matches are more random than definitive, However, that being said, I do have a question. In the cae of Abraham Lovelace whose line has daughtered out, therefore not available for Y-DNA, do you think it could help us put him with the Lovelace MD bunch (or noe) whichever the case may be? I personally think he belongs, but would love to find some proof more than trhe slim evidence we have. Lou Ann ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message