Jack, For now I'm going to respectfully disagree. I still think they're brothers and one of the reasons is that after the mother didn't appear on Hazel's census, there was an older woman on one of the other brothers and when that one stopped, an older woman appeared on one of the others. I'm not looking at my data base right now, but I'll go back and look and be more specific about the reasons I think they're brothers. Lou Ann In a message dated 6/25/16 6:51:04 PM, lovelacejackd@verizon.net writes: > Lou Ann, > > I could be wrong, but here goes. > > Hazle is definitely a son of Joseph and Sarah.  We know this from a > baptism record in Saint Paul's Episcopal Church in the All Saints Parish > in Rock Creek, MD. > > John, William, Isaac and James were supposedly born in Maryland, but we > do not have any baptism records for them.  We definitely need proof of > where they were born. > > In 1767, Joseph was selling his possessions in Maryland.  By 1768, > Joseph and Sarah are thought to be in North Carolina.  John, William, > Isaac and James were born after this move. > > Joseph probably died about 1780 in Rowan County, North Carolina. > > We find Hazel, John, and William in Newberry County, South Carolina, on > the 1790 census.  Based on census counts, Sarah Robey is living with > Hazle; Isaac and James are living with William. > > In 1800, Hazle and William are still in Newberry District.  John, Isaac, > and James are found in Greenville District.  Sarah Robey is still > counted on Hazle's census. > > In 1810, Hazle is still in Newberry District.  His mother, Sarah Robey, > is deceased. > > Based on the census data, I think that John, James, Isaac, and William > are definitely brothers.  I do not think that John, James, and Isaac > would have left Newberry District while their mother was still living. > Therefore, Sarah Robey is not their mother.  Which implies that Hazle is > not their brother.  Since we know that Hazle is the son of Joseph, John, > James, Isaac, and William are not the sons of Joseph. > > The most likely candidate to be the father of John, James, Isaac, and > William is John Lovelace, the brother of Ignatius.  John probably died > in Charles County, Maryland before 1790. > >