Melissa, I'm on Gedmatch... Kit #T116982 I just compared our samples. No matching segments at the default cutoff (7 cM) No matching segments at 5 cM At a cutoff of 3 cM, two small segment matches: - 3.6 cM on CHR 2 (144,962,285 to 150,382,135), 835 SNPs - 3.4 cM on CHR 3 (32,401,615 to 36,415,901), 770 SNPs At a cutoff of 1 cM, two more small segments emerge: - 1.3 cM on CHR 6 (31,749,365 to 33,109,749), 1718 SNPs - 2.1 cM on CHR 7 (64,290,271 to 68,687,837), 769 SNPs Including all the matching segments at the 3 cM cutoff, we share a total of 7 cM, which translates to 0.1% of our DNA. Using the 1 cM cutoff, we share a total of 10.4 cM, which translates to 0.15% of our DNA. CAVEAT: According to ISOGG, you should use the 5 Cm CUTOFF. Using that restriction, we don't share *ANY* DNA. Using the 3 cM cutoff (0.1% shared DNA), we come off as 7th-8th cousins (http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Cousin_statistics) There is an excellent discussion of centimorgans (cM) and single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) on the DNAeXplained blog here: https://dna-explained.com/2016/03/30/concepts-centimorgans-snps-and-pickin-c rab/ Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg Peace, Greg Lovelace  Part of the Tree Research Services 683 Edmonds Drive Charleston, SC 29412 greg@part-of-the-tree.com www.part-of-the-tree.com -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Jones Belur via Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:20 AM To: lovelace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LL] autosomal DNA and GedMatch Hi all, I've been in digest mode for a while. Have been trying to keep up the last few nights, especially with the talk about autosomal DNA and the Newberry Five. My kit number on GedMatch is T022672. I do match Lisa's grandmother's kit in 3 small segments on chromosomes 11 (5.7 cM) and 14 (3.6 cM and 4.0 cM). I don't know how significant these matches are. I'm from the James of Tishomingo (b. 1796 in probably SC) line. I don't match either of the Cates kits that Lenny Darnell posted about. Even more interesting (and perplexing!), I don't match Martha Wallace. I would have expected us to have some matching segments as Martha is also from the James of Tishomingo line. Has anyone else done an autosomal DNA test and ported their results to GedMatch? As for the parentage of James of Tishomingo, I still lean towards William Loveless who was last seen in Laurens County, South Carolina. I can't get past the fact that James is not mentioned in the Loveless - Sadler deed of Jefferson County, Alabama, where John Loveless's wife and heirs sold off his land. I'd be happy if we can figure out the answer one of these days! --Melissa On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 12:00 AM, <lovelace-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Message: 29 > Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 19:12:06 -0700 > From: Lisa Gorrell <snrylisa@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [LL] Question... > To: Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> > Cc: lovelace@rootsweb.com > > > My grandmother's kit is F173637. Her line: > Pansy Lancaster > Lela Ann Loveless & Geo Warren Lancaster > Ebenezer > Loveless & Eliza Rodgers > Jesse Loveless & Elizabeth Nixon > James > Loveless & Linna Hughes > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Lisa. Are you on gedmatch? I'd love to see if you match Tom Cates. > > > > Sorry, haven't been to the site in awhile. Looks like there is a new > kit no. T667349 > > Lisa > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Melissa Third cousins or closer are more likely than not to share DNA. For any two specific fourth cousins or further it is less and less likely that DNA is shared. For sixth cousins, if I remember right, it's about 5% that measurable DNA will be shared. Here is a chart that shows the average amount shared by distance. https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/202907170-Average-percent-DNA-shared-between-relatives Greg, I agree. Segments less than 7cM are 50% likely to be noise (identical by state or IBS). 50% likely to be identical by descent (IBD). Below 7, it is more likely to be noise. However, even if a segment matches at 3cM it can be determined to be IBD if triangulated. So when I load in 2nd and 3rd cousins, I track at 4cM 400 SNPs and up because if I can show that I match that cousin on that segment, then find someone else who does even if our match is 7cM, the odds are high that it is identical by descent. Lenny On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Greg Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Melissa, > I'm on Gedmatch... Kit #T116982 > > I just compared our samples. > No matching segments at the default cutoff (7 cM) > No matching segments at 5 cM > At a cutoff of 3 cM, two small segment matches: > - 3.6 cM on CHR 2 (144,962,285 to 150,382,135), 835 SNPs > - 3.4 cM on CHR 3 (32,401,615 to 36,415,901), 770 SNPs > At a cutoff of 1 cM, two more small segments emerge: > - 1.3 cM on CHR 6 (31,749,365 to 33,109,749), 1718 SNPs > - 2.1 cM on CHR 7 (64,290,271 to 68,687,837), 769 SNPs > > Including all the matching segments at the 3 cM cutoff, we share a total of > 7 cM, which translates to 0.1% of our DNA. Using the 1 cM cutoff, we share > a total of 10.4 cM, which translates to 0.15% of our DNA. CAVEAT: > According to ISOGG, you should use the 5 Cm CUTOFF. Using that > restriction, > we don't share *ANY* DNA. > > Using the 3 cM cutoff (0.1% shared DNA), we come off as 7th-8th cousins > (http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Cousin_statistics) > > There is an excellent discussion of centimorgans (cM) and single nucleotide > polymorphisms (SNPs) on the DNAeXplained blog here: > > https://dna-explained.com/2016/03/30/concepts-centimorgans-snps-and-pickin-c > rab/ > > Peace, > Part of the Tree, > Greg > > Peace, > Greg Lovelace > Part of the Tree Research Services > 683 Edmonds Drive > Charleston, SC 29412 > greg@part-of-the-tree.com > www.part-of-the-tree.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Melissa Jones Belur via > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:20 AM > To: lovelace@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LL] autosomal DNA and GedMatch > > Hi all, > > I've been in digest mode for a while. Have been trying to keep up the last > few nights, especially with the talk about autosomal DNA and the Newberry > Five. > > My kit number on GedMatch is T022672. I do match Lisa's grandmother's kit > in 3 small segments on chromosomes 11 (5.7 cM) and 14 (3.6 cM and 4.0 cM). > I don't know how significant these matches are. > > I'm from the James of Tishomingo (b. 1796 in probably SC) line. > > I don't match either of the Cates kits that Lenny Darnell posted about. > Even more interesting (and perplexing!), I don't match Martha Wallace. I > would have expected us to have some matching segments as Martha is also > from > the James of Tishomingo line. > > Has anyone else done an autosomal DNA test and ported their results to > GedMatch? > > As for the parentage of James of Tishomingo, I still lean towards William > Loveless who was last seen in Laurens County, South Carolina. I can't get > past the fact that James is not mentioned in the Loveless - Sadler deed of > Jefferson County, Alabama, where John Loveless's wife and heirs sold off > his > land. I'd be happy if we can figure out the answer one of these days! > > --Melissa > > > > > On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 12:00 AM, <lovelace-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Message: 29 > > Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 19:12:06 -0700 > > From: Lisa Gorrell <snrylisa@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [LL] Question... > > To: Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> > > Cc: lovelace@rootsweb.com > > > > > > My grandmother's kit is F173637. Her line: > > Pansy Lancaster > Lela Ann Loveless & Geo Warren Lancaster > Ebenezer > > Loveless & Eliza Rodgers > Jesse Loveless & Elizabeth Nixon > James > > Loveless & Linna Hughes > > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Lisa. Are you on gedmatch? I'd love to see if you match Tom Cates. > > > > > > > > Sorry, haven't been to the site in awhile. Looks like there is a new > > kit no. T667349 > > > > Lisa > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >