Here are prob. the three generations prior to James (1771) of which I'd love to get proof. (If it's for sale, I'll pay.) Info. is from bits and pieces picked up on the list and elsewhere. 1. Thomas Lovelace, b. Bet 1664-1665 Talbot, MD, d. before 1753 in Charles County, MD. m. Eleanor? 1649 - 1674 in Charles Cty, MD. 2. John Lovelace b. 1689 Port Tobacco, Charles County, MD. d. unk., Charles County, MD. m. 1711 Mary, LNU, b. 1691, d. between 1730 and 1741 in Charles County, MD (John later m. Nancy Jane Bohanan) 3. Joseph Lovelace b. 1722 Port Tobacco, Charles County, MD. d. <1790 in Newberry Dist., SC. m. Sarah Robey, prob. In Charles County, MD. Joseph is probably the father of the Newberry Five. -----Original Message----- From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wade Lovelace via Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:29 AM To: Brondak <Brondak@aol.com>; lovelace <lovelace@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LL] The Newberry Five Yes Lenny, I did have a DNA test done. I found a record that Hazel was buried at Lower Dunkin Creek Baptist Church Cemetery. So one summer day I took my wife and five children to the Cemetery to see if I could find any Loveless' Graves. Unfortunatey, we found nothing. The cemetery was very large and the Graves were broken with tombstones pushed over and weeds all grown up on and around them. Many had snakes going in and out of them. My. Kids said it reminded them of Michael Jackson's Thriller. Leaving the cemetery, I drove to Whitmire, South Carolina and stopped at an old mom and pop store to get a Coke. While I was there I talked to the owners of the store and told them about our experience at the cemetery and they told me that the Cemetery had been abandoned when the church moved to become the First Baptist Church of Whitmire. They also safe time to visit the Cemetery was in the Winter. They also told about a local man who they believed knew a lot about the church. As he only lived about six houses away, I went to.his door. I told him about what I was looking for and he went into his house and brought out the Original Church Records for Lower Dunkin Creek He would not let me take them to copy and I probably would not allowed a total stranger to take them either. He did however, allow me to sit on his porch and read them for about an hour. I, by the way do not believe James was named James Thomas. All records I have seen list him as James Lovelace or James Loveless. James did have a son named Thomas and his youngest son was named James T. This was James Timmons Loveless and in the Gambrell records of his wife's family he is listed as Timmons Loveless. Wade T. Lovelace On Jun 26, 2016 1:48 AM, "Brondak via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Jack (and all)....A little more on the Newberry Five (thanks Wade, for that > name. It helps distinguish them from all the other SC Lovelaces really > well. Why didn't I ever think of calling them that? lol) > > Another thing I looked at determining that these five were brothers > were naming patterns: > > Hazel: Six sons, one named Joseph (for his father) one James and one > William (for his brothers?) > > James: Eight sons, one William, one Hazel, (for brothers?) > > Isaac: 11 children one son Joseph and one daughter Sarah (for > parents?) son James (for brother?) > > William: I'm not 100% sure of his children, but I think he had a William > and a James > > John: Six sons, one named James Isaac (for two brothers?) and one William. > Note Jamea Isaac or also known as James of Tishomingo is not 100% > proven as a son of John, but I think he might be. The name James Isaac is proven. > > James might just have been a real popular name OR the brothers may all > have really liked him above the rest.. > > James and Isaac married sisters. > We don't know the surnames of the wives of Hazel, John or William > Hazel was the only one who stayed in newberry. > John, James & Isaac went to Greenville. > William to Laurens Co where John was also found in 1810. > > Of the five, only John left SC and went to AL, however, many of the > kids and grandkids of the other four, (including Hazel's) can be found > near one anothr in AL, some staying in AL, some moving on to other places. > Lou Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Andrew (John later m. Nancy Jane Bohanan) - were these the parents of John 1745? On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Andrew Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Here are prob. the three generations prior to James (1771) of which I'd > love > to get proof. (If it's for sale, I'll pay.) Info. is from bits and pieces > picked up on the list and elsewhere. > > 1. Thomas Lovelace, b. Bet 1664-1665 Talbot, MD, d. before 1753 in Charles > County, MD. m. Eleanor? 1649 - 1674 in Charles Cty, MD. > > 2. John Lovelace b. 1689 Port Tobacco, Charles County, MD. d. unk., > Charles > County, MD. m. 1711 Mary, LNU, b. 1691, d. between 1730 and 1741 in > Charles > County, MD (John later m. Nancy Jane Bohanan) > > 3. Joseph Lovelace b. 1722 Port Tobacco, Charles County, MD. d. <1790 in > Newberry Dist., SC. m. Sarah Robey, prob. In Charles County, MD. > > Joseph is probably the father of the Newberry Five. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Wade Lovelace via > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:29 AM > To: Brondak <Brondak@aol.com>; lovelace <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [LL] The Newberry Five > > Yes Lenny, I did have a DNA test done. > > I found a record that Hazel was buried at Lower Dunkin Creek Baptist Church > Cemetery. So one summer day I took my wife and five children to the > Cemetery to see if I could find any Loveless' Graves. > Unfortunatey, we found nothing. The cemetery was very large and the Graves > were broken with tombstones pushed over and weeds all grown up on and > around > them. Many had snakes going in and out of them. My. Kids said it reminded > them of Michael Jackson's Thriller. > > Leaving the cemetery, I drove to Whitmire, South Carolina and stopped at an > old mom and pop store to get a Coke. While I was there I talked to the > owners of the store and told them about our experience at the cemetery and > they told me that the Cemetery had been abandoned when the church moved to > become the First Baptist Church of Whitmire. They also safe time to visit > the Cemetery was in the Winter. They also told about a local man who they > believed knew a lot about the church. As he only lived about six houses > away, I went to.his door. I told him about what I was looking for and he > went into his house and brought out the Original Church Records for Lower > Dunkin Creek He would not let me take them to copy and I probably would not > allowed a total stranger to take them either. He did however, allow me to > sit on his porch and read them for about an hour. > > I, by the way do not believe James was named James Thomas. All records I > have seen list him as James Lovelace or James Loveless. James did have a > son named Thomas and his youngest son was named James T. This was James > Timmons Loveless and in the Gambrell records of his wife's family he is > listed as Timmons Loveless. > > Wade T. Lovelace > On Jun 26, 2016 1:48 AM, "Brondak via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Jack (and all)....A little more on the Newberry Five (thanks Wade, for > that > > name. It helps distinguish them from all the other SC Lovelaces really > > well. Why didn't I ever think of calling them that? lol) > > > > Another thing I looked at determining that these five were brothers > > were naming patterns: > > > > Hazel: Six sons, one named Joseph (for his father) one James and one > > William (for his brothers?) > > > > James: Eight sons, one William, one Hazel, (for brothers?) > > > > Isaac: 11 children one son Joseph and one daughter Sarah (for > > parents?) son James (for brother?) > > > > William: I'm not 100% sure of his children, but I think he had a > William > > and a James > > > > John: Six sons, one named James Isaac (for two brothers?) and one > William. > > Note Jamea Isaac or also known as James of Tishomingo is not 100% > > proven as a son of John, but I think he might be. The name James Isaac is > proven. > > > > James might just have been a real popular name OR the brothers may all > > have really liked him above the rest.. > > > > James and Isaac married sisters. > > We don't know the surnames of the wives of Hazel, John or William > > Hazel was the only one who stayed in newberry. > > John, James & Isaac went to Greenville. > > William to Laurens Co where John was also found in 1810. > > > > Of the five, only John left SC and went to AL, however, many of the > > kids and grandkids of the other four, (including Hazel's) can be found > > near one anothr in AL, some staying in AL, some moving on to other > places. > > Lou Ann > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John who married Nancy Bohanan was my ancestor. He has no relationship to the Newberry Five. His parents are not known. John was probably born about 1730. He married Nancy Bohanan in Culpeper County, Virginia about 1750. They are the parents of: James Lovelace b: 1751 who married Joanna Smith. They resided in Abbeville District, SC. John Lovelace b: 1753 who married Mylla. They resided in Campbell Co., KY. Noah Lovelace b: 1754 who married Jemima. They resided in Abbeville District, SC. Mary Lovelace b: 1757. Nancy Lovelace b: 1761 who married Reuben Rosson. They resided in Culpeper County, Virginia. On 6/26/2016 1:33 PM, Lenny Darnell via wrote: > Thanks Andrew > > (John later m. Nancy Jane Bohanan) - were these the parents of John 1745? > -- Jack D. Lovelace

Note that John Milton Loveless 1766 seems to be involved with some of the Newberry 5 Name: *John Milton LOVELESS*Sex: MBirth: ~1766 in South CarolinaDeath: DEC. 24, 1831 in Jonesboro, Jefferson Cty., Ala.Note: John was a carpenter and a blacksmith. It is not known where in SC he was born. In the 1790 census, he resided in Newberry County, SC, next to William and Hazel Loveless. In the 1800 census, he resided in Greenville Co, next to James Loveless. He sold land in Greenville Co. in 1813 and moved to Jefferson County, Alabama. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bcassady&id=I137 On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Andrew Lovelace via <lovelace@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Here are prob. the three generations prior to James (1771) of which I'd > love > to get proof. (If it's for sale, I'll pay.) Info. is from bits and pieces > picked up on the list and elsewhere. > > 1. Thomas Lovelace, b. Bet 1664-1665 Talbot, MD, d. before 1753 in Charles > County, MD. m. Eleanor? 1649 - 1674 in Charles Cty, MD. > > 2. John Lovelace b. 1689 Port Tobacco, Charles County, MD. d. unk., > Charles > County, MD. m. 1711 Mary, LNU, b. 1691, d. between 1730 and 1741 in > Charles > County, MD (John later m. Nancy Jane Bohanan) > > 3. Joseph Lovelace b. 1722 Port Tobacco, Charles County, MD. d. <1790 in > Newberry Dist., SC. m. Sarah Robey, prob. In Charles County, MD. > > Joseph is probably the father of the Newberry Five. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lovelace-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Wade Lovelace via > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:29 AM > To: Brondak <Brondak@aol.com>; lovelace <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [LL] The Newberry Five > > Yes Lenny, I did have a DNA test done. > > I found a record that Hazel was buried at Lower Dunkin Creek Baptist Church > Cemetery. So one summer day I took my wife and five children to the > Cemetery to see if I could find any Loveless' Graves. > Unfortunatey, we found nothing. The cemetery was very large and the Graves > were broken with tombstones pushed over and weeds all grown up on and > around > them. Many had snakes going in and out of them. My. Kids said it reminded > them of Michael Jackson's Thriller. > > Leaving the cemetery, I drove to Whitmire, South Carolina and stopped at an > old mom and pop store to get a Coke. While I was there I talked to the > owners of the store and told them about our experience at the cemetery and > they told me that the Cemetery had been abandoned when the church moved to > become the First Baptist Church of Whitmire. They also safe time to visit > the Cemetery was in the Winter. They also told about a local man who they > believed knew a lot about the church. As he only lived about six houses > away, I went to.his door. I told him about what I was looking for and he > went into his house and brought out the Original Church Records for Lower > Dunkin Creek He would not let me take them to copy and I probably would not > allowed a total stranger to take them either. He did however, allow me to > sit on his porch and read them for about an hour. > > I, by the way do not believe James was named James Thomas. All records I > have seen list him as James Lovelace or James Loveless. James did have a > son named Thomas and his youngest son was named James T. This was James > Timmons Loveless and in the Gambrell records of his wife's family he is > listed as Timmons Loveless. > > Wade T. Lovelace > On Jun 26, 2016 1:48 AM, "Brondak via" <lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Jack (and all)....A little more on the Newberry Five (thanks Wade, for > that > > name. It helps distinguish them from all the other SC Lovelaces really > > well. Why didn't I ever think of calling them that? lol) > > > > Another thing I looked at determining that these five were brothers > > were naming patterns: > > > > Hazel: Six sons, one named Joseph (for his father) one James and one > > William (for his brothers?) > > > > James: Eight sons, one William, one Hazel, (for brothers?) > > > > Isaac: 11 children one son Joseph and one daughter Sarah (for > > parents?) son James (for brother?) > > > > William: I'm not 100% sure of his children, but I think he had a > William > > and a James > > > > John: Six sons, one named James Isaac (for two brothers?) and one > William. > > Note Jamea Isaac or also known as James of Tishomingo is not 100% > > proven as a son of John, but I think he might be. The name James Isaac is > proven. > > > > James might just have been a real popular name OR the brothers may all > > have really liked him above the rest.. > > > > James and Isaac married sisters. > > We don't know the surnames of the wives of Hazel, John or William > > Hazel was the only one who stayed in newberry. > > John, James & Isaac went to Greenville. > > William to Laurens Co where John was also found in 1810. > > > > Of the five, only John left SC and went to AL, however, many of the > > kids and grandkids of the other four, (including Hazel's) can be found > > near one anothr in AL, some staying in AL, some moving on to other > places. > > Lou Ann > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >