Paul, That is really good - you would need one for each person. I think I'll create one for Tom and one for Bob as the GedMatch kit #s are reported here. I am not sure what Greg will want as a way of tracking everyone, but I could see a spreadsheet with - Kit 1 - Name 1 - Kit 2 - Name 2 - Chromosome - Start Matching Segment - End Matching Segment The question is whether to enter each matching segment once, or twice, reversing kit#s and names so that you can sort and select either way (Think GEDMatch's triangulation report which is basically what we are doing). My question to Greg: Are you going to build the spreadsheet yourself and publish it from time to time, keep a current version non-editable on Google Docs or some other place - or make it editable where we each add our own matches. Lenny On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Paul David <dpaul3048@gmail.com> wrote: > Lenny > > Would this help? > > Paul > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Lenny Darnell via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> Lisa, your grandmother and Bob Cates have a small connection. this may >> be >> noise or not, depending if we can find a third party who shares it: >> >> Comparing Kit A898171 (Robert Lynn Cates) and F173637 (Pansy Louise >> Lancaster Johnston) >> >> >> Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs >> 21 14,667,761 16,338,264 4.5 446 >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Lisa Gorrell via <lovelace@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >> > My grandmother, Pansy Louise Johnston's DNA is uploaded to GedMatch from >> > FTDNA. Her kit is ID F173637. She descends from James Loveless & Linna >> > Hughes. >> > >> > Lisa Gorrell >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Lenny Darnell via < >> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Robert Cates is A898171 >> > > Tom Cates is M727087 >> > > >> > > The are first cousins once removed. We suspect that Tom's great >> > > grandfather/Bob's GGgrandfater to be a Lovel***. We also have >> evidence >> > > that they are descended from ancestors of Linna and Mary Hughes. >> > > >> > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Sherry Mack <sherrymack82@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Great idea Greg! >> > > > >> > > > My mom tested at ancestry under the username Mackwaco and her >> gedmatch >> > > is: >> > > > A343028. I tested my cousin as well, but I discovered that she has >> a >> > > > second Lovel*** line. So I'll leave her out. I'm off the Samuel >> > > Loveless >> > > > (Jackson and Benton, Arkansas) line. >> > > > >> > > > Hopefully this will entice more to upload their results to gedmatch. >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > Sherry >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Lenny Darnell via < >> > > lovelace@rootsweb.com >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Greg, a huge job indeed. Thank you. Would you like me to >> include >> > in >> > > my >> > > >> list people who may not be on this listserve, but have a Lovel*** >> line >> > > in >> > > >> their tree and have provided GEDMatch #s? Do you want to limit >> what >> > is >> > > >> reported to you to triangulated matches, or all 2-party matches >> which >> > > may >> > > >> or may not be Lovel***? One option is to collect 2-party matches >> for >> > > >> fourth cousin and better, but not for 5th cousin or worse. >> > > >> >> > > >> Thanks so much! >> > > >> >> > > >> Lenny >> > > >> >> > > >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Greg Lovelace via < >> > > lovelace@rootsweb.com >> > > >> > >> > > >> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> > OK, folks. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > The time has come for me to bite the bullet and start to put >> > together >> > > a >> > > >> > spreadsheet of autosomal DNA matches. Maybe I can try to use >> some >> > of >> > > >> the >> > > >> > stuff I learned last summer to actually take a good look at some >> of >> > > the >> > > >> > matches and try to propose some conclusions. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > In order for me to do that, I need to know from you cuzzins if >> you >> > > have >> > > >> had >> > > >> > an autosomal DNA test. If you have, who did you test with? Have >> > you >> > > >> > uploaded your results to GedMatch? If so, what is your Gedmatch >> kit >> > > >> > number? >> > > >> > Have you uploaded a gedcom to Gedmatch? If so, what is your >> gedcom >> > id >> > > >> > number? >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > This is a substantial undertaking, and it will probably take a >> long >> > > >> time to >> > > >> > compile. So now I know that Melissa tested with FTDNA and >> uploaded >> > > her >> > > >> > results. I've entered our matches (see my last email) into the >> new >> > > >> > spreadsheet. I'm ready for yours now. Please respond, either >> here >> > on >> > > >> the >> > > >> > list so other interested cousins can see, or privately to me at >> > > >> > greg@part-of-the-tree.com. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Peace, >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Part of the Tree, >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Greg >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- >> > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > >> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > the >> > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> ------------------------------- >> > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > >> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

The spreadsheet would also need oldest proven Loveless Ancestor on the list. We have to realize that at every generation up the tree the autosomal DNA may come from a wife rather than the Loveless man. But it would be solid in the Loveless line from the couple down. Do we also want to collect segments that are triangulated up the tree on wives line? For instance, I have a match between Tom and a person who descends from a brother of Mary and Linna Hughes. They have no Loveless in their line, but the data is meaningful to others who descend through Isaac and James. L On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> wrote: > Paul, > > That is really good - you would need one for each person. I think I'll > create one for Tom and one for Bob as the GedMatch kit #s are reported here. > > I am not sure what Greg will want as a way of tracking everyone, but I > could see a spreadsheet with > > > - Kit 1 > - Name 1 > - Kit 2 > - Name 2 > - Chromosome > - Start Matching Segment > - End Matching Segment > > The question is whether to enter each matching segment once, or twice, > reversing kit#s and names so that you can sort and select either way (Think > GEDMatch's triangulation report which is basically what we are doing). > > My question to Greg: Are you going to build the spreadsheet yourself and > publish it from time to time, keep a current version non-editable on Google > Docs or some other place - or make it editable where we each add our own > matches. > > Lenny > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Paul David <dpaul3048@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Lenny >> >> Would this help? >> >> Paul >> >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Lenny Darnell via <lovelace@rootsweb.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Lisa, your grandmother and Bob Cates have a small connection. this may >>> be >>> noise or not, depending if we can find a third party who shares it: >>> >>> Comparing Kit A898171 (Robert Lynn Cates) and F173637 (Pansy Louise >>> Lancaster Johnston) >>> >>> >>> Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs >>> 21 14,667,761 16,338,264 4.5 446 >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Lisa Gorrell via <lovelace@rootsweb.com >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> > My grandmother, Pansy Louise Johnston's DNA is uploaded to GedMatch >>> from >>> > FTDNA. Her kit is ID F173637. She descends from James Loveless & Linna >>> > Hughes. >>> > >>> > Lisa Gorrell >>> > >>> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Lenny Darnell via < >>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > Robert Cates is A898171 >>> > > Tom Cates is M727087 >>> > > >>> > > The are first cousins once removed. We suspect that Tom's great >>> > > grandfather/Bob's GGgrandfater to be a Lovel***. We also have >>> evidence >>> > > that they are descended from ancestors of Linna and Mary Hughes. >>> > > >>> > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Sherry Mack <sherrymack82@gmail.com >>> > >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Great idea Greg! >>> > > > >>> > > > My mom tested at ancestry under the username Mackwaco and her >>> gedmatch >>> > > is: >>> > > > A343028. I tested my cousin as well, but I discovered that she >>> has a >>> > > > second Lovel*** line. So I'll leave her out. I'm off the Samuel >>> > > Loveless >>> > > > (Jackson and Benton, Arkansas) line. >>> > > > >>> > > > Hopefully this will entice more to upload their results to >>> gedmatch. >>> > > > Thanks, >>> > > > Sherry >>> > > > >>> > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Lenny Darnell via < >>> > > lovelace@rootsweb.com >>> > > > > wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > >> Greg, a huge job indeed. Thank you. Would you like me to >>> include >>> > in >>> > > my >>> > > >> list people who may not be on this listserve, but have a Lovel*** >>> line >>> > > in >>> > > >> their tree and have provided GEDMatch #s? Do you want to limit >>> what >>> > is >>> > > >> reported to you to triangulated matches, or all 2-party matches >>> which >>> > > may >>> > > >> or may not be Lovel***? One option is to collect 2-party >>> matches for >>> > > >> fourth cousin and better, but not for 5th cousin or worse. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Thanks so much! >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Lenny >>> > > >> >>> > > >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Greg Lovelace via < >>> > > lovelace@rootsweb.com >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> wrote: >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > OK, folks. >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > The time has come for me to bite the bullet and start to put >>> > together >>> > > a >>> > > >> > spreadsheet of autosomal DNA matches. Maybe I can try to use >>> some >>> > of >>> > > >> the >>> > > >> > stuff I learned last summer to actually take a good look at >>> some of >>> > > the >>> > > >> > matches and try to propose some conclusions. >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > In order for me to do that, I need to know from you cuzzins if >>> you >>> > > have >>> > > >> had >>> > > >> > an autosomal DNA test. If you have, who did you test with? >>> Have >>> > you >>> > > >> > uploaded your results to GedMatch? If so, what is your >>> Gedmatch kit >>> > > >> > number? >>> > > >> > Have you uploaded a gedcom to Gedmatch? If so, what is your >>> gedcom >>> > id >>> > > >> > number? >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > This is a substantial undertaking, and it will probably take a >>> long >>> > > >> time to >>> > > >> > compile. So now I know that Melissa tested with FTDNA and >>> uploaded >>> > > her >>> > > >> > results. I've entered our matches (see my last email) into the >>> new >>> > > >> > spreadsheet. I'm ready for yours now. Please respond, either >>> here >>> > on >>> > > >> the >>> > > >> > list so other interested cousins can see, or privately to me at >>> > > >> > greg@part-of-the-tree.com. >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > Peace, >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > Part of the Tree, >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > Greg >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > ------------------------------- >>> > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > > >> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> > the >>> > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> >>> > > >> ------------------------------- >>> > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > > >> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the >>> > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > > >> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > ------------------------------- >>> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >

Paul, Do you, Jeb Lovelace and Terri Davis all descend from JT Loveless 1771 and Linna Hughes? If not, then who? Lenny On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> wrote: > The spreadsheet would also need oldest proven Loveless Ancestor on the > list. We have to realize that at every generation up the tree the > autosomal DNA may come from a wife rather than the Loveless man. But it > would be solid in the Loveless line from the couple down. > > Do we also want to collect segments that are triangulated up the tree on > wives line? For instance, I have a match between Tom and a person who > descends from a brother of Mary and Linna Hughes. They have no Loveless in > their line, but the data is meaningful to others who descend through Isaac > and James. > > L > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Lenny Darnell <lrdarnell@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Paul, >> >> That is really good - you would need one for each person. I think I'll >> create one for Tom and one for Bob as the GedMatch kit #s are reported here. >> >> I am not sure what Greg will want as a way of tracking everyone, but I >> could see a spreadsheet with >> >> >> - Kit 1 >> - Name 1 >> - Kit 2 >> - Name 2 >> - Chromosome >> - Start Matching Segment >> - End Matching Segment >> >> The question is whether to enter each matching segment once, or twice, >> reversing kit#s and names so that you can sort and select either way (Think >> GEDMatch's triangulation report which is basically what we are doing). >> >> My question to Greg: Are you going to build the spreadsheet yourself >> and publish it from time to time, keep a current version non-editable on >> Google Docs or some other place - or make it editable where we each add our >> own matches. >> >> Lenny >> >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Paul David <dpaul3048@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Lenny >>> >>> Would this help? >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Lenny Darnell via < >>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Lisa, your grandmother and Bob Cates have a small connection. this >>>> may be >>>> noise or not, depending if we can find a third party who shares it: >>>> >>>> Comparing Kit A898171 (Robert Lynn Cates) and F173637 (Pansy Louise >>>> Lancaster Johnston) >>>> >>>> >>>> Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs >>>> 21 14,667,761 16,338,264 4.5 446 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Lisa Gorrell via < >>>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > My grandmother, Pansy Louise Johnston's DNA is uploaded to GedMatch >>>> from >>>> > FTDNA. Her kit is ID F173637. She descends from James Loveless & Linna >>>> > Hughes. >>>> > >>>> > Lisa Gorrell >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Lenny Darnell via < >>>> lovelace@rootsweb.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > Robert Cates is A898171 >>>> > > Tom Cates is M727087 >>>> > > >>>> > > The are first cousins once removed. We suspect that Tom's great >>>> > > grandfather/Bob's GGgrandfater to be a Lovel***. We also have >>>> evidence >>>> > > that they are descended from ancestors of Linna and Mary Hughes. >>>> > > >>>> > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Sherry Mack < >>>> sherrymack82@gmail.com> >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > > Great idea Greg! >>>> > > > >>>> > > > My mom tested at ancestry under the username Mackwaco and her >>>> gedmatch >>>> > > is: >>>> > > > A343028. I tested my cousin as well, but I discovered that she >>>> has a >>>> > > > second Lovel*** line. So I'll leave her out. I'm off the Samuel >>>> > > Loveless >>>> > > > (Jackson and Benton, Arkansas) line. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Hopefully this will entice more to upload their results to >>>> gedmatch. >>>> > > > Thanks, >>>> > > > Sherry >>>> > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Lenny Darnell via < >>>> > > lovelace@rootsweb.com >>>> > > > > wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > >> Greg, a huge job indeed. Thank you. Would you like me to >>>> include >>>> > in >>>> > > my >>>> > > >> list people who may not be on this listserve, but have a >>>> Lovel*** line >>>> > > in >>>> > > >> their tree and have provided GEDMatch #s? Do you want to limit >>>> what >>>> > is >>>> > > >> reported to you to triangulated matches, or all 2-party matches >>>> which >>>> > > may >>>> > > >> or may not be Lovel***? One option is to collect 2-party >>>> matches for >>>> > > >> fourth cousin and better, but not for 5th cousin or worse. >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> Thanks so much! >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> Lenny >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Greg Lovelace via < >>>> > > lovelace@rootsweb.com >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> wrote: >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > OK, folks. >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > The time has come for me to bite the bullet and start to put >>>> > together >>>> > > a >>>> > > >> > spreadsheet of autosomal DNA matches. Maybe I can try to use >>>> some >>>> > of >>>> > > >> the >>>> > > >> > stuff I learned last summer to actually take a good look at >>>> some of >>>> > > the >>>> > > >> > matches and try to propose some conclusions. >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > In order for me to do that, I need to know from you cuzzins if >>>> you >>>> > > have >>>> > > >> had >>>> > > >> > an autosomal DNA test. If you have, who did you test with? >>>> Have >>>> > you >>>> > > >> > uploaded your results to GedMatch? If so, what is your >>>> Gedmatch kit >>>> > > >> > number? >>>> > > >> > Have you uploaded a gedcom to Gedmatch? If so, what is your >>>> gedcom >>>> > id >>>> > > >> > number? >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > This is a substantial undertaking, and it will probably take a >>>> long >>>> > > >> time to >>>> > > >> > compile. So now I know that Melissa tested with FTDNA and >>>> uploaded >>>> > > her >>>> > > >> > results. I've entered our matches (see my last email) into >>>> the new >>>> > > >> > spreadsheet. I'm ready for yours now. Please respond, either >>>> here >>>> > on >>>> > > >> the >>>> > > >> > list so other interested cousins can see, or privately to me at >>>> > > >> > greg@part-of-the-tree.com. >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > Peace, >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > Part of the Tree, >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > Greg >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > ------------------------------- >>>> > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > > >> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> > the >>>> > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> ------------------------------- >>>> > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > > >> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the >>>> > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > > >> >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > ------------------------------- >>>> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------- >>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >> >