I also have this family as descended from Thomas Lovelace and Amelia/Permelia Dyson, except through their son Levi and his wife Sarah Lazenby. I don't have children for the son Dyson. My info is from Michael & Susan Newton, but I think that the father is Levi may be speculationn based on the names of William's children. It appears that Levi's brother Dyson may be also a likely candidate. Here is some of the info I was sent on William. "Bill was born in Missouri. His mother died when Bill was very >young. Bill had brothers and sisters, names are unknown. Bill was taken >away by a neighbor, who taught him to steal. Bill was caught by another >neighbor and Bill was raised by that neighbor. If it helps, Bill was >tall, sandy red hair, blue eyes and known as an Irishman. > I know that he married Luisia Jane Owens about 1875 and they had >twelve children. Bill died 04/19/19." If it's true that his mother died when he was very young, Sarah Lazenby probably isn't his mother. Dyson was also in MO and I have nothing on his wife's death, but if he's descended from Thomas Lovelace of MD, the story of the four brothers from Ireland coming over here during the potato famine doesn't ring true. The names of his children feed the speculation of his line from Thomas because he has a son William Archibald and a son Flemuel Dyson. Levi also had a son Archibald. And of course Dyson is from the grandmother. William M actually had fifteen children, but I can't tell that any of the other names offer clues. Levi and Dyson also had a brother Archibald who was in MO too, but William M would have been almost 20 when Archibald's wife died. Lou Ann In a message dated 1/18/11 10:25:46 PM, lovelacejackd@verizon.net writes: > The information that I have in my database does not exactly match what > Larry has submitted.  I have Larry as Larry Neal Lovelace, son of > William E. Lovelace and Dorothy Gwen Wanamaker.  I have William E. as > the son of Elmer L. Lovelace and Verna E. Archer.  I have Elmer L as the > son of William Archibald Lovelace and Cora Belle Walker.  I have William > Archibald as the son of William M. Lovelace and Louisa Jane Owens. > > At this point my information and Larry's information diverge. > > I have William M. Lovelace as the son of Dyson Lovelace and Louisa Cawan > Fite.  I have Dyson Lovelace as the son of Thomas A. Lovelace and Amelia > Permela Dyson.  I have Thomas A. as the son of Charles Lovelace and > Sarah Robey.  I have Charles as the son of John Baptist Lovelace and > Eleanor Wilcoxen. > > Bill Lovelace wrote: > >    I received this email.  Any one interested in this family? > > > >      Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:39:06 -0800 (PST) > >      From: Larry Lovelace <fshs4ever@sbcglobal.net> > >      Subject: Lovelace family > >      To: geezer@adelphia.net > >      MIME-Version: 1.0 > >      Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > >      boundary="0-923040030-1294378746=:46950" > >          Hi, my name is Larry Lovelace son of William E. Lovelace son of > Elmer > >      Lovelace son of Archer Lovelace son William Lovelace a mule skinner > for > >      the settlers of the Oklahoma Land Rush son of John Lovelace a > pastor from > >      Ohio whose youngest son served as a bugle boy in the Union Army.  > We are > >      descended from four Irish pastor brothers who came to the US during > the > >      potato  famine. Our predecessor went south and later settled in the > >      Missouri territory, later a son went to the land rush in Oklahoma, > we > >      still own the land. During the second world war my grandfather > Elmer > >      Lovelace went to California for war work where my father, 18 years > old, > >      met my mother > >      Dorthy Wanamaker of the eastern mercantile Wanamaker's. They > married and > >      my father William stayed in California when his family went back to > >      Oklahoma. My folks were married 61 years and are now passed away. > One son > >      is a missionary in Nicaragua the other works for Pacific Gas and > Electric > >      Co. in Ca. and a daughter living in Stockton Ca. > >      I thought you might be interested in another branch of the family. > > > > > > > >      Yours ;    Larry Lovelace, Modesto Ca. > >  > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > >   > > -- > Jack D. Lovelace > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LOVELACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > >